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Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 02:25 PM Mar 2012

How can I defend myself if….

How can I defend myself if I can’t own a gun?

How can I defend myself if I have to keep my gun locked up at home?

How can I defend myself if I have to keep my gun at home?

How can I defend myself if I can’t carry my gun to work/school/church?

How can I defend myself if I can’t carry my concealed gun to work/school/church?

How can I defend myself if I can’t use my gun when I feel threatened?

WHOA. STOP. STOP. STOP. Because now we get corpses, and especially, corpses of innocents. And those corpses will have mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, uncles, cousins etc. And they will want revenge. And that will lead to blood feuds. And that will lead to ethnic strife. Look around the world. Happens all the time.

Someone needs to start walking this shit back. Pronto.

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rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
1. Bush taught us that we have a right to take the first step against
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 02:30 PM
Mar 2012

potential enemies. Preemptive strikes. I am surprised Florida doesnt have a law like that on the books. "You are allowed to preemptively shot someone if you believe you are in immediate danger."

 

Johnny Rico

(1,438 posts)
2. You could carry a taser or pepper gas, but they aren't as effective as a firearm.
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 02:32 PM
Mar 2012

It's your choice. Well, at least it is in most localities in the US...which is as it should be.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. How you go about it is your own business
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 02:36 PM
Mar 2012

Part of our precious, precious freedom. However, you are encouraged and all but commanded to be suspicious of everyone. Assume bad intent by everyone else. If you choose not to arm yourself to the teeth and are not prepared to draw and shoot at a moment's notice, you will be upbraided for failing to follow the tenets of our national religion. If you're lucky, it will stop at upbraiding. However, be assured that one of your duties as a citizen is to remain suspicious and hostile toward everyone else. Or the terrorists win. And you don't want that, do you? Huh?

MineralMan

(146,329 posts)
4. Now, see....you think too damned much.
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 02:37 PM
Mar 2012

Just line up the front sight in the rear sight and gently squeeze the trigger. You'll never get to be a good shot if you're doing all that thinking. Shooting is sorta like meditation, see...you have to have an empty mind to shoot well. Look at Bill down there. He's never had a thought in his life, but he's a great shot.

Do I need the smilie?

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
6. As we used to say in my math classes: reductio ad absurdum
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 04:49 PM
Mar 2012

It’s where "liberalized-gun-laws-for-self-defense" takes you.

Unfortunately, the release from fear that holding a gun gives is so powerful, that walking to the edge of the abyss seems to be necessary.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,198 posts)
9. I have a 34 inch aluminum Easton baseball bat I keep under my bed. That's all I have and all I need.
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 09:41 PM
Mar 2012

No gun. No desire to have a gun, in my home, in my car, or on my person.

The idea of having a machine whose intended purpose is to kill/maim just doesn't sit well with me. Unless I am the victim of repeated break-ins or witness a mafia murder, I don't forsee my position changing.

Texasgal

(17,047 posts)
10. I have no problem with
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 09:46 PM
Mar 2012

responsible gun ownership.

I come from a family of hunters who are almost unhinged when it comes to gun safety.

I have no problem with people packing heat responsibly.

Not all gun owners lead to dead bodies.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
11. And I have no problem with responsible gun ownership.
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:02 AM
Mar 2012

As for "packing heat", I think that CWPs should issued only after the most thorough background checks, issued only when a real need is demonstrated, and should require periodic renewals and reinvestigations.

 

chnoutte

(36 posts)
12. What is a demonstrated need?
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:27 AM
Mar 2012

I live in a rural area where it take a minimum of 20 minutes for the police to show up, would that meet your demostrated need requirement?

I agree that owners should pass background checks and demonstrate proficiency with firearms before even being allowed to own one.

I also believe that gun owners are 100% responsible and liable for anything that happens with that gun too.
That means that if your idiot kid takes it and shoots someone the kid and the parent both go to jail.

As a gun owner it is your responsibility to have positive control of that firearm at all times, if it get stolen you did not have control of it nor did you properly secure it.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
13. In a rural situation why do you need to CONCEAL the weapon?
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 07:36 AM
Mar 2012

Can't you strap on a traditional holster?

Is the threat that real that you need to have a gun on you at all times? Doesn't it get in the way?

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
14. The first and last solution gun nuts have for every problem is to have a gun.
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 08:58 AM
Mar 2012

A gun is not and has never been a requirement for citizenship, & guns do not and never have been objects which reduce violence in any given situation.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
15. The whole POINT of having police departments is so that we DON'T need,
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 09:14 AM
Mar 2012

each of us, to be "on our own" with respects to personal safety.

The push to put a gun in every hand is just an extension of the "you're on your own" philosophy of the repubs.

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