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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Poor Wittle Persecuted Christian Family Redux- Why I stand by
characterizing them that way. Oh, yeah and fuck them and their fuckwad sponsors and friends.
Muriel Volestrangler (my favorite DU name by leagues) has a most excellent post about how this faux persecuted German family claiming asylum from persecution is a pile of wingnut shit of the worst and most cynical kind.
The Obama administration rightfully opposed giving these lying ass right wing fuckwad parents asylum and the admin won. No, they're not deporting them and that's fine; deporting them would have just give the wingnuts something to rally over and lie about- just as they've been lying this whole time.
And yeah, fuck the religious right.
From the fearless Volestrangler:
The family could have moved to Austria, and home-schooled, without any 'asylum' seeking - a German-speaking country next door. They could have moved to the UK, or several other EU countries, and home-schooled, if they wanted. But instead they moved to the USA so they could hook up with Michael Farris, founder of the Christian extremist Patrick Henry College, and be used by him for publicity. Just search DU for what he's been involved in - blocking ratification of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities, and much more:
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4615562
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Didn't you post yesterday that you weren't addressing the family specifically with those words?
cali
(114,904 posts)and that's what I'm doing here.
YarnAddict
(1,850 posts)but the "poor wittle Cwistians" was condescending and insulting. You could have expressed the same opinion without being so insulting to so many people.
Aristus
(66,409 posts)I'm a Christian, and I wasn't insulted by that wording.
OTOH, I was insulted by the notion these fanatics stated that they had to seek 'asylum' in the US.
The word 'asylum' implies that someone was chasing them, hunting them down because of their religious beliefs, and the only safe haven was here in the US. This is clearly not the case, as the OP demonstrated.
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)Shrike47
(6,913 posts)calimary
(81,350 posts)I'm so sick of their damn phony "victimhood" I could just scream!
riqster
(13,986 posts)What the Huguenots and other groups that were the targets of Church wrath were obliged to endure is far beyond anything these whining Wingnuts can possibly imagine.
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)their phony enablers
Feral Child
(2,086 posts)It was applied to these particular whiny frauds pretending to be persecuted Christians.
Not everything is about you, YA. Some Christians deserve nothing but criticism, especially those that are Faithful Panhandlers and those that whine about non-existent persecution.
You're just looking for an opportunity to pick a fight based on your fauxoutrage.
Which type of Christian does that make you?
snooper2
(30,151 posts)I guess some folks "faith" isn't very strong if they are getting offending by your descriptions of these losers.
There's a reason most people don't like modern Christians. If I were a religious person, I would be so much more outraged by the pseudo-xtians who run around misquoting the bible and mischaracterizing Christianity. I would be livid at the preachers who preach hate from the pulpit and pretty pissed at any parents who wanted to indoctrinate their children in flat earth lies.
calimary
(81,350 posts)And I'm a life-long Catholic.
Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)wandy
(3,539 posts)In all probability these people could have applied for citizenship on their own merits.
Then, they could have raised their children in accordance with their beliefs.
But Noooooooooooooo.....................
They chose to be lying ass right wing fuckwads.
This, we have more than enough of.
There are many others who are tired, or poor or are tempest-tossed who would make better neighbors.
This, we need more of.
YarnAddict
(1,850 posts)This, we need more of.
Unless you know this family personally, I don't think you have any idea what kind of neighbors they would be.
Bettie
(16,111 posts)They tend to be cut from the same cloth...crazy wrapped in hate.
Sadly, my own brother's family has become one of these.
This family may not be that way, but given the organization that is supporting them, I wouldn't bet the farm on them being decent people.
YarnAddict
(1,850 posts)I learned long ago not to make assumption about people based on limited knowledge.
wandy
(3,539 posts)Pray to what ever god pleases you.
That is your faith. That is you're right.
I admire that you can do so.
It is not a crutch or is it an excuse.
It does not make you "special".
Once again.
Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)Jesus and Moses are walking along the beach when Moses says, "You know what? I'm going to try and part the ocean again." He throws his hands in the air and, magically, the ocean parts.
Jesus sees this and says, "I'm going to try to walk on water again." He walks up to the water, takes a step on top and sinks.
Moses says, "Try it again, Jesus. It's been a while." Jesus tries again, and once more, he sinks.
Jesus comes out of the water and says, "I don't know what is going on, maybe I'm losing it"
Moses says, "Well, last time you tried to do this you didn't have holes in your feet"
Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)I love it!
valerief
(53,235 posts)progressoid
(49,992 posts)Too bad I don't have anyone I can tell that to who would appreciate it.
That's cute!
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)Bettie
(16,111 posts)I agree 100% and have zero sympathy for this family.
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,322 posts)to John Cleese:
http://www.amazon.com/Golden-Wing-commander-Muriel-Volestrangler-F-R-H-S/dp/0413567907
Though 'she' is a descendant of Barry Took and Marty Feldman's Dame Celia Molestrangler: http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/roundthehorne/
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)religion is nothing but a racket, chock full of sickos and morons
underpants
(182,843 posts)Feral Child
(2,086 posts)REC
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Specifically, the illegality of home-schooling in Germany?
"Poor Wittle Cwistians" seems like an unnecessarily abrasive framing of the situation. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't start a "Poor Wittle Hasidic Jews" thread if their religion was different. Or a "Poor Wittle Muslims" thread.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)am I anyone's?