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Yavin4

(35,440 posts) Thu Mar 6, 2014, 08:45 PM Mar 2014

If you eliminate rational reasons for why an act happened...

does that leave only irrational reasons for why that act happened?

Please discuss.

Note: this post is not in regards to any current news item. I just want to explore this point with my fellow DUers.

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If you eliminate rational reasons for why an act happened... (Original Post) Yavin4 Mar 2014 OP

no. there are also the unknown unknowns Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #1

Logically, 'eliminating' rational reasons leaves only irrational reasons. elleng Mar 2014 #2

Rationality is like objectivity, it's subjective. nt bemildred Mar 2014 #3

Or: Rationallity is like subjectivity, it's objective. RobertEarl Mar 2014 #5

Well, you stumped me. bemildred Mar 2014 #12

Rational to whom? ( n/t ) Make7 Mar 2014 #4

With some things, it is literally impossible to find a rational solution... yawnmaster Mar 2014 #6

I like cheese. Squinch Mar 2014 #7

Oh, man, I was gonna say turtles. xfundy Mar 2014 #9

. Squinch Mar 2014 #13

Like BabyJesus™? xfundy Mar 2014 #8

Define "rational" also in my definition "rational" is highly subjective, or can be highly subjective uppityperson Mar 2014 #10

Only if you know all of the possible rational reasons. n/t lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #11

This is why Vulcans cannot exist in the real universe. randome Mar 2014 #14

This is why Vulcans can't have nice things. Squinch Mar 2014 #15

"Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth." SomethingFishy Mar 2014 #16

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)

1. no. there are also the unknown unknowns

Reply to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Mar 6, 2014, 08:46 PM

Mar 2014

elleng

(130,918 posts)

2. Logically, 'eliminating' rational reasons leaves only irrational reasons.

Reply to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Mar 6, 2014, 08:47 PM

Mar 2014

bemildred

(90,061 posts)

3. Rationality is like objectivity, it's subjective. nt

Reply to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Mar 6, 2014, 08:48 PM

Mar 2014

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)

5. Or: Rationallity is like subjectivity, it's objective.

Reply to bemildred (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 6, 2014, 08:55 PM

Mar 2014

Why not?

Should we objectify subjectivity, or what?

bemildred

(90,061 posts)

12. Well, you stumped me.

Reply to RobertEarl (Reply #5)

Thu Mar 6, 2014, 09:48 PM

Mar 2014

I cannot think of a response that is both coherent and witty enough.
Serves me right, I suppose.

Make7

(8,543 posts)

4. Rational to whom? ( n/t )

Reply to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Mar 6, 2014, 08:51 PM

Mar 2014

yawnmaster

(2,812 posts)

6. With some things, it is literally impossible to find a rational solution...

Reply to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Mar 6, 2014, 08:56 PM

Mar 2014

Like pi or the square root of two.

Squinch

(50,950 posts)

7. I like cheese.

Reply to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Mar 6, 2014, 09:19 PM

Mar 2014

xfundy

(5,105 posts)

9. Oh, man, I was gonna say turtles.

Reply to Squinch (Reply #7)

Thu Mar 6, 2014, 09:24 PM

Mar 2014

You win.

Squinch

(50,950 posts)

13. .

Reply to xfundy (Reply #9)

Thu Mar 6, 2014, 10:04 PM

Mar 2014

xfundy

(5,105 posts)

8. Like BabyJesus™?

Reply to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Mar 6, 2014, 09:23 PM

Mar 2014

i mean, you can't get more rational than that, or BabyJesus™ will torture you in hell for all eternity. Right?

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)

10. Define "rational" also in my definition "rational" is highly subjective, or can be highly subjective

Reply to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Mar 6, 2014, 09:27 PM

Mar 2014

It depends.

Sometimes things happen for irrational reasons.

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)

11. Only if you know all of the possible rational reasons. n/t

Reply to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Mar 6, 2014, 09:31 PM

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randome

(34,845 posts)

14. This is why Vulcans cannot exist in the real universe.

Reply to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Mar 6, 2014, 10:12 PM

Mar 2014

Like rationality, even logic has different meanings to different individuals. All Vulcans would do is argue, like any other sentient species.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]“If you're not committed to anything, you're just taking up space.”
Gregory Peck, Mirage (1965)[/center][/font][hr]

Squinch

(50,950 posts)

15. This is why Vulcans can't have nice things.

Reply to randome (Reply #14)

Thu Mar 6, 2014, 10:47 PM

Mar 2014

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)

16. "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth."