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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow bad is having an arrest record/misdemeanor conviction if I'm applying for a state job?
The charge and plea deal were for criminal speeding which is a misdemeanor. The city prosecutor did not offer any diversion program or traffic school and said I would lose if I fought it in court. This was less than 12 months ago.
elleng
(130,948 posts)and I suspect the effect would depend on job and potential employers. They probably have some discretion.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Do not lie.
Look at the form, carefully. What does it ask?
Does it ask if you were arrested?
Convicted of a felony?
Charged?
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(8,155 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)A little more detail?
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(8,155 posts)In other words, the police told me in the parking lot I was under arrest, read me my miranda rights, took a finger print, wrote me the ticket and let me go.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)As I was searching for state jobs.
I was technically arrested but really only detained on the side of the road.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)as far as background checks are concerned.
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(8,155 posts)NM_Birder
(1,591 posts)to release a suspect, once he is read his Miranda rights and placed under arrest?
Read his Miranda rights, fingerprinted and then issued a speeding ticket and released ? .... in the field ?
"detained" ? seriously ? what state do you practice law ?
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(8,155 posts)NM_Birder
(1,591 posts)He read you your Miranda rights, took a fingerprint....and then let you go ?
Once under arrest, the officer does not have the authority to release you on site.
How exactly did the officer take your fingerprints.
This type of fabrication will sink your chances in even a low level background check, ....... what is it you are not telling. And why are you making part of this up ?
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(8,155 posts)NM_Birder
(1,591 posts)he read you your rights, scanned your fingerprint to verify you were who your licence said you were, then placed you under arrest, ..... and then let you go.
Along with the speeding ticket, what else did he give you ?
Never put something down on a piece of paper that could be construed as a lie. It's one thing to say a lie, it's another to have your lie in writing.
As she says, tell the truth but don't volunteer anything.
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(82,333 posts)VScott
(774 posts)You would have a problem.. ie: "must have a clean driving record" in the job description.
Other than that, I wouldn't worry about it too much.
However, when there are 500+ applicants for the same position, there's no telling what they take into consideration.
Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)I was 33 when I was hired on Louisville Metro Police Department and had a DUI 1st offense when I was 20. I was upfront with it from the very beginning. Severity of the conviction, the time between and how you have been since said conviction matters. With me, I was in the Air National Guard when the DUI took place. I was in school, stayed in school and finished, stayed out of trouble.
meanit
(455 posts)if you have a record. Just be candid and list the facts if they ask on the application. Trying to omit it or cover it up is what can sink you. Most background checks are done before a job offer is made.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)as is being unemployed for over 6 months.
meanit
(455 posts)But a state job may be one of the few places that may actually hire someone in that age bracket and economic circumstances.
Atman
(31,464 posts)How fast were you going???
AFAIK, these type of offenses aren't considered serious. Real felonies, serious bad stuff, that's what they look for. Hell, the HR director might have a misdemeanor on his/her record. They're looking for real bad guys. If your resume is otherwise okay, be up front and be strong.
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(8,155 posts)I was definitely exceeding the speed limit but do not personally know exactly by how much. The officer measured my speed by pacing, which is never totally accurate. He told the court I was going 62 in a 40.
However, I had just exited a 45 mph zone by less than half a mile. It was very late at night and I was on my way home on my motorcycle after a long evening at work.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)for going 66 in a 40 mph zone because there was an abrupt construction zone on the GNO bridge (Crescent City Connection, I guess it is called now).
It was like 5:30 am (I hadn't been drinking or anything like that). That was a hell of a ticket and they threatened to take my driver's license, but of course, after getting hit with a $500+ (this was two decades ago), and going to court it was resolved.
I guess it depends on where it happens. You would have had to have the braking skills of a NASCAR driver to avoid that speed trap. There were a bunch of people lined up to the side that were blowing in breathalyzers that got caught in the same place I did.
Anything over 25mph over the speed limit is considered reckless driving.
I went to court and it was dropped to just a ticket for 14mph over the speed limit.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)When a driver exceeds 85 mph anywhere in the state
When a driver exceeds 35 mph while near a school crossing
When a driver exceeds a posted speed limit by 20 mph in a business or residential area
When a driver exceeds 45 mph when no speed is posted in a business or residential area
If youve been pulled over during any one or more of these situations, you could face criminal speeding charges that can affect your ability to drive, and if you have more than one criminal speeding charge, the penalties can be even greater. Additionally, you can be charged with other offenses, like reckless driving, while also being charged with driving excessively over the speed limit.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)it's exceeding 25mph over the speed limit and becomes reckless driving. I found that out the hard way with a speed trap/abrupt construction notification. It may have changed by now, but that's what it was when I was crossing the bridge and got caught in a speed trap that had like 2 seconds of notification. There were like 4 people lined up getting arrested for DUI. I hadn't been drinking or anything but I got hit with a massive ticket. Of course, this was two decades ago.
At any rate, I went to court to fight it, and it was reduced to a simple speeding ticket.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)I wish you all the best.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Accurate (you did indeed get a speeding ticket) but without going into too much detail.
elleng
(130,948 posts)Lisa0825
(14,487 posts)if your job involved driving. Otherwise, it would almost certainly not be an issue.
brooklynite
(94,585 posts)Sometimes, they only ask about Felonies.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Criminal records, and particularly misdemeanors are a potential policy trap for employers because if there is no nexus between the crime and the job requirements, the employer is opening themselves up to equal opportunity liability since certain protected classes are disparity affected by the justice system.
http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/guidance/arrest_conviction.cfm
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)A criminal record for a single, victimless moving violation?
DashOneBravo
(2,679 posts)Going for one of those "sexist pigs" jobs?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Although you might want to get a few felonies under your belt, to make sure you have what it takes.
vankuria
(904 posts)I worked for N.Y.S. for many years, worked with a variety of folks, and some did have arrest records. Be honest on your application, I know New York does a finger print check as well for everyone after they're hired. The appl. you fill out is only the first step, I would think after your appl. is accepted you would be taking a civil service exam and your hiring would depend on your score.
Good luck!
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)told you, whatever you do don't lie. You can probably explain the charge and the circumstances to a prospective employer but if they catch you lying on your application, game's over.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)It won't be that bad as long as you're upfront and honest about it...
I have a friend who got a security clearance and is working at a navy base, and he had a pretty shaky history in his younger years...
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)"Speeding ticket, 2013" as an explanation. They'll look it up. I doubt if it will make any difference.