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ELSPETH REEVE
At the Conservative Political Action Conference on Thursday, Paul Ryan told a touching anecdote of a poor boy who said he didn't want a free lunch at school, but a brown bag one, because "a kid who had a brown paper bag had someone who cared for him." Though Ryan presented this as a modern tale of government dependence and family decline people don't want "comfort," Ryan said, but "dignity" the author of the book the story appears to be cribbed from says she met the kid in 1986.
"You know, this reminds me of a story I heard from Eloise Anderson," Ryan said, referring to a member of Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker's cabinet. He continued:
"She once met a young boy from a very poor family. And every day at school, he would get a free lunch from a government program. He told Eloise, he didn't want a free lunch. He wanted his own lunch, one in a brown paper bag, just like the other kids. He wanted one, he said, because he knew a kid who had a brown paper bag had someone who cared for him. This is what the left does not understand."
But as a Talking Points Memo commenter noticed, the story appears to be cribbed from a 2011 book called An Invisible Thread. Author Laura Schroff says it's the story of her friendship with Maurice. Her website says, "We met on 56th street in Manhattan in 1986, when I was a 35-year-old single, successful ad sales executive, and he was an 11-year-old homeless panhandler." An except of the book:
more:
http://www.thewire.com/politics/2014/03/paul-ryans-heartwrenching-story-about-hungry-kid-also-appears-heartwrenching-book/358902/
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Lyin' Ryan was today awarded Four Pinocchios by the Washington Post for his claims in this speech:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014748000
JustAnotherGen
(31,827 posts)There you go again! Telling the truth!
#PaulRyanLies
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)mea maxima culpa (through my fault, through my fault, through my most grievous fault), I promise, I won't let it happen again!!
Botany
(70,508 posts)luckykate54
(50 posts)What a joke!!!
Botany
(70,508 posts)The cotton apron will get soaked and so will the dishwasher too. According to the
director of the social service agency in N.E. Ohio Ryan showed up after they were
closed for that photo op.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)the apron is. If you're working in a professional kitchen like that, your apron gets food and water splatters on it. If that picture doesn't scream "photo op" I don't know what does.
If I were the director of that place, I would have said, "Come back tomorrow. Your shift starts at 5:00 am and you're finished at noon. Be prepared to work."
Botany
(70,508 posts)BTW a full day really working would kill Ryan
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)and they didn't have the rubber aprons, but, admittedly, my experience is extremely limited. And yes, you're right, he wouldn't know HOW to do a full day's work. Most of these Congresscritters wouldn't.
niyad
(113,315 posts)Botany
(70,508 posts)niyad
(113,315 posts)Botany
(70,508 posts)Ryan's Mt. Climbing story got a looking at in 2012 w/ his veep run and
so when that story came out a member of a Colorado mt. climbing
organization started fact checking Ryan's claims and he figured out that
Ryan didn't have enough time in the state to have climbed all those mountains.
Ryan issued a correction that he had been "on" some of those mountains and
hadn't really climbed them and how he was taking out of context.
niyad
(113,315 posts)I "climbed" the steps the other day--not all the way to the top, mind you, but that counts, doesn't it? and he started this when he was 12? so impressive. I know what is involved in climbing the 14ers--not exactly a stroll in the park. (and not something I have any inclination whatsoever to do!)
Botany
(70,508 posts)and one of the trails went from 2,340 ft to about 2,700 ft and it whipped both my son and
I (we are both in good shape) just to make it to the top. So the idea that Paul climbed
all those mts. ..... some of which are technical climbs ..... is pure bull shit.
I wonder how he is going to explain his latest "error?"
niyad
(113,315 posts)was that he had climbed some 28 peaks some 38 times (really, paul, you climbed each of those 28 peaks 38 times??? that is the way it is phrased). now, I have friends who do the 14-ers, and I can guarantee you that each of them knows EXACTLY which peaks they have reached, and how many times. none of this vague "well, something around 28 around 38 times, starting when I was 12).
has this self-absorbed lying pos EVER spoken a word of truth??
handmade34
(22,756 posts)what Paul Ryan (and his ilk) will never believe or comprehend is that the Left DOES understand... to their core!! the right is merely cheapening the conversation
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)I'm thinking these Republicans who are getting into trouble for plagiarism, or spouting off from fiction, or twisting facts let their unqualified staff of true-believers write their stuff.
They don't do the research themselves, or fact-check themselves... or even have the reported experience themselves.
atreides1
(16,079 posts)Ryan knows that those who will be voting for him don't care about the truth...he knows that his supporters would never question anything he says.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)but it's expensive. And stuff to put in the brown paper bags can also be expensive, especially when you consider you can't bring peanut products in most schools and you can't have food that might go bad if it stays warm for a while. It limits options.
So we'll cut the hot lunch program right after cutting food stamps. Poor parents will have more meals to prepare with less money.
Great idea, Paul Ryan! /sarcasm
Also: see my signature.
bringing lunches don't even use "brown bags", they have little lunch packs that keep their food fresh. My niece is in a school lunch program and I doubt for a second she or any of the other kids are feeling deprived or unloved because they get a hot lunch prepared at school.
This whole argument is so contrived and stupid, but I guess it's a break from Benghazi.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)not hand made sandwiches and fresh fruit. These often are loaded with extra salt, fat and preservatives and are costly as well. And they come with propaganda as well - the picture shows fresh fruit but in fact Lunchables do not come with grapes or any other kind of fruit or vegetables. A school lunch is generally a better choice in both cost and nutrition.
vankuria
(904 posts)School lunch programs save time and $ for parents as well as provide nutritional lunches for kids. With childhood obesity at such high levels this is a winner all the way around/
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)The other kids think her lunch is strange, but it's what she likes. She's allergic to peanuts, and the school menu isn't truly peanut-free, so she always brings her lunch. Since they don't get much time to eat lunch, she's just as well pleased not to stand in line.
Purrfessor
(1,188 posts)geardaddy
(24,931 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)CANDO
(2,068 posts)a free lunch at school. And ultimately, the kid IS getting a free lunch from someone who cares about him. The point the righties never fucking get, is that kids need fed REGARDLESS of how or whether it's free! Food in the stomach is a good thing, but to the right it's an opportunity to spin some Randian tale for ideological reasons.
jollyreaper2112
(1,941 posts)1. He's a lying scumfuck who steals. But this we knew.
2. He warped the message of the story.
He doesn't deserve to share the same air as civilized society. What a selfish, grasping fuckspat.
ctsnowman
(1,903 posts)Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)WTF? I haven't done brown bag lunches for the kids in a couple of years. Largely because the changes made to nutrition and meals at the state and federal level have turned once ordinary and unappealing school lunches into something diverse, appealing and far healthier than what I could pack at a fraction of the price. I guess because my kids buy lunches, I don't care about them.
Borchkins
(724 posts)I must not love them enough to make their lunch, forget the fact that they prefer the hot lunch at school.
B
Ivywoods55
(131 posts)Does any of these people have decency, morals, or scruples? Plagiarism runs rampage among these folks. But I guess none of them would call this stealing, probably not, huh? Pathetic.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)kid has a point.
Maybe a Congress Person will introduce the Lyin' Paul Ryan Brown Paper Bags For Meals in Public Schools Because We Care Bill.
Could pay for it by ordering one less bomb for the defense department, yes?
baldguy
(36,649 posts)And therefore the welfare of those children must be ignored, dismissed & neglected, and they should be cast aside by society.
From what I've read, I think Laura Schroff would disagree.
Rex
(65,616 posts)My how unoriginal.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)Heartwrenching would be if the kid in the story died of a preventable disease due to lack of affordable health care. This is just a kid wanting to fit in. They could have easily been asking for the latest sneakers.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)Brainstormy
(2,380 posts)says another thread. From Captain Picard.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024619134
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Historic NY
(37,449 posts)they have to lift the writing and materials of others. It reminds me of the kids in school that cheat by looking at others papers.
catbyte
(34,393 posts)their own "touching, heartbreaking" stories? What a bunch of frauds. I get so pissed off about this--and the M$M ALWAYS gives them a pass. Remember the shit Biden landed in when he cribbed portions of that speech back in the late 1980's? He was lucky he was able to save his political career. Now, it's just "ho hum" whenever one of these despicable baggers is caught in a lie.
It really rots my socks, grrrrrrr...
SunSeeker
(51,559 posts)And no, they didn't make me feel unloved. What I felt was guilty. I knew my poor mom was going without a decent lunch.
greatlaurel
(2,004 posts)Wow, Ryan received social security when his dad died when Ryan was a teenager, but Ryan would deny poor children a warm lunch. Can we start an effort to attach hypocrite to his name whenever there is a web search for him. Maybe lyin' Ryan can go wash some more clean dishes at a soup kitchen.
I still cannot believe the Village Media consider this fool as "serious". Why are the Washington media so in love with gutting benefits for the needy? Are they all overpaid?
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)are on programs such on "free" lunches for their children going to school. A huge chunk of their constituents are on SNAP and receive some sort of assistance (Medicare - Medicaid) from the US government whereas tax payers, a significant portion comes from Blue States.
But alas, their constituents are so misinformed and will believe every word that their political party tells them.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)So we shouldn't give poor kids free lunches because it offends their dignity. But starving doesn't.
EC
(12,287 posts)story to explain her way of thinking and then Ryan used her plagiarized story as a source. Does that mean he plagiarized too, since his cite is bogus? It would also seem that Republicans always seem to come away from a story with the wrong lesson learned. Anyway don't any of them have an original thought?
QuestForSense
(653 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Dubya once uttered, trying to wear a mask of non-psychopathy.
Tikki
(14,557 posts)Last edited Fri Mar 7, 2014, 02:17 PM - Edit history (1)
So many times a student from the affluent part of the district would come to the breakfast
or lunch window and plead for a breakfast* or lunch because mom and or dad left early, had their mind on
something else, didn't make breakfast or pack a lunch and forgot to give them money to eat at school.
Many times we had to send a note home to recover the money.
ryan, for students, rich or poor
.Eating Is Fundamental
Tikki
*especially breakfast...
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)Anderson for claiming the story as her own and adding the school lunch part in Congressional testimony and Ryan for not checking a story included in a major speech because in Kessler's words, it was "too good to check."
scorpiogirl
(717 posts)He uses innocent children to promote his sick agenda. His fb page is covered in photo ops using his own kids. So obvious and contrived
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)C0RYH0FFMAN
(20 posts)That he thought he could get away with that? Lying about his running time, putting out totally phony reports, pretending to wash dishes, stealing a story about a kid and a brown paper bag? Hubris.
niyad
(113,315 posts)yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)LisaMaire
10:33 AM EST
So, fake brown paper bag story, fake marathon running story, fake dishwashing at the homeless shelter...
QuestForSense
(653 posts)niyad
(113,315 posts)VA_Jill
(9,976 posts)Just like his buddy li'l Randy Paul, Paulie Ryan is a PLAGIARIST!
FlyByNight
(1,756 posts)Shameless AND lazy.
Cha
(297,249 posts)January 23, 2013 |
"Last seen blaming urban voters (you know who hes talking about) for his and Mitt Romneys bitter November defeat, Rep. Paul Ryan returned to the prevaricating ways he made famous throughout the campaign on Tuesday. There were his silly lies about his marathon time, of course, and perhaps more serious, his serial lies in his acceptance speech at the Republican convention in Tampa, Fla., last August, on welfare, GM restructuring and the 2009 stimulus bill. Its hard to know exactly what words to use to describe his campaign appearance helping at a soup kitchen that turned out to be a photo op showing him scrubbing already clean pots and pans, but honest isnt one of them.
Now Ryan is trying to squirm out of the lasso in which the president captured him in his inaugural address Monday. The commitments we make to each other through Medicare and Medicaid and Social Security, these things do not sap our initiative, they strengthen us, Obama said with indignation. They do not make us a nation of takers; they free us to take the risks that make this country great.
Everyone who followed the 2012 campaign knew Obama was talking about Ryan as surely as if hed said his name."
More..
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/paul-ryan-pathological-liar
Mahalo Don~
FSogol
(45,487 posts)Paul Ryan is the phoniest of the phony.
WhiteTara
(29,716 posts)He is really an evil man.
gulliver
(13,181 posts)How can anyone stand to be in the same party with that liar, much less turn him into a leader?