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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 12:03 PM Mar 2014

Ford to Move Pickup Production From Mexico to Ohio Van Plant

Ford to Move Pickup Production From Mexico to Ohio Van Plant

By Keith Naughton

Ford Motor Co. (F:US), which plans to cease making the Econoline van later this year, will revive the Ohio factory where the vehicle is made by investing $168 million to move pickup production there from Mexico early in 2015.

Production of Ford’s commercial F-650 and F-750 medium-duty pickups will move from a plant in Escobedo, Mexico, to Avon Lake, Ohio. Ford had operated a Mexican-based joint-venture with Navistar International Corp. (NAV:US) known as the Blue Diamond Trucking Co. The automaker is cutting those ties to take full control of production, design and engineering of its top-selling F-series pickups, Joe Hinrichs, Ford’s president of the Americas, said in an interview.

Ford derives most of its profit from its F-series truck line, Morgan Stanley has said. The second-biggest U.S. automaker sold 763,402 such vehicles last year, including 8,682 medium-and heavy-duty pickups, up 18 percent from 2012. Later this year, the company will debut an aluminum-bodied F-150 pickup, to be followed early in 2015 with redesigned versions of the F-650 and F-750, still featuring steel bodies.

“This is a highly profitable vehicle,”said Kristin Dziczek, an analyst with the Center for Automotive Research in Ann Arbor, Michigan. “The bigger the vehicle, the higher the profit, so that makes it less difficult that the labor costs are slightly higher in Ohio than Mexico.”

Ford also won’t have to share profits with Navistar now that it’s pulled out of that joint-venture, Dziczek said.

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http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-03-07/ford-to-move-pickup-production-from-mexico-to-ohio-van-plant


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Ford to Move Pickup Production From Mexico to Ohio Van Plant (Original Post) ProSense Mar 2014 OP
Ah, the Econoline bites the dust. Good vehicle for touring acts. Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #1
They're replacing it with a MUCH better van jmowreader Mar 2014 #2
Stand up inside? Who'd thunk? Looks good, deisel, no doubt. Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #4
Comes two ways - gas or diesel jmowreader Mar 2014 #11
Yep. The Mercedes/Chrysler version supposedly has a 4 cyl Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #14
The Sprinter has a five-cylinder diesel that gets 25mpg jmowreader Mar 2014 #19
just think of all the Duggars you can fit inside! uncle ray Mar 2014 #7
Reminds me of that urban legend Groucho Marx Joke on "You Bet Your Life:" Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #9
Vans of that design are common in Europe and the Middle East. They are highly bluestate10 Mar 2014 #18
Anyone who's worked in TV/Film Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #3
I used to mechanic for a living, and I always recommended Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #8
In my corner of the industry Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #10
I serviced 2 one-ton Econolines in Austin, which came from NYC... Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #17
f650 and f750s are not pickups. uncle ray Mar 2014 #5
That depends on how much money you have IDemo Mar 2014 #16
No more Econline! I drove one of those around Fort Gordon for about 8 months back in doc03 Mar 2014 #6
"labor costs are slightly higher in Ohio than Mexico" madinmaryland Mar 2014 #12
She's the salt of the Earth, straight from the bosom of the Mormon Church, IDemo Mar 2014 #13
Excellent news! I would love to know the economics behind this. badtoworse Mar 2014 #15
 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
1. Ah, the Econoline bites the dust. Good vehicle for touring acts.
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 12:10 PM
Mar 2014

Strong axle & drive train, cruise at 60 with a load of amps, easy to hose the puke out after a tour.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
2. They're replacing it with a MUCH better van
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 12:43 PM
Mar 2014


http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/09/05/replacement-for-ford-e-series-van-revealed/

This is the Transit, Ford's "European-style" van and the blue-oval equivalent to the Sprinter. They're going to make these in St. Louis.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
11. Comes two ways - gas or diesel
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 01:20 PM
Mar 2014

The gas engine is the Ecoboost out of the F-150. The diesel is an inline-5 PowerStroke...sound familiar?

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
14. Yep. The Mercedes/Chrysler version supposedly has a 4 cyl
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 10:55 PM
Mar 2014

deisel which could get upper 20s mpg, but it would fail emissions here.

IMO, light PUs & vans need to be completely re-conceived in purpose and design. They are too inefficient, inflexible and costly to operate, esp. in urban areas.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
9. Reminds me of that urban legend Groucho Marx Joke on "You Bet Your Life:"
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 01:17 PM
Mar 2014

GR: well, it says here you are married and have kids. How many?

GUEST: Nine.

GR: (stunned) You have NINE?

GUEST: Well, I love my wife.

GR: (looking at cigar) I love my cigar, but I take it out once in a while.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
18. Vans of that design are common in Europe and the Middle East. They are highly
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 11:15 PM
Mar 2014

functional for hauling cargo.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
8. I used to mechanic for a living, and I always recommended
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 01:08 PM
Mar 2014

That rock/punk acts get a 1-ton with the strongest autotrans, big motor & rubber floor. The mileage diff. with a small engine was inconsequential, the tranny had a cooling package, and knowing the proclivities of rock musicians, NEVER get carpeting!

 

Boom Sound 416

(4,185 posts)
10. In my corner of the industry
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 01:18 PM
Mar 2014

We either used them with four benches loaded with crew members with a 20 somthing PA who could never keep it under 85. But later, the union gigs had Teamsters and those guys are always cool as hell.

Or,

On Skelton doc crews and such, it's pull the back two benches. Load it tight with gear with a four of five person team.

They were the American Land Rover of Vans.

(Also the first vehicle I ever drove in NYC)

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
17. I serviced 2 one-ton Econolines in Austin, which came from NYC...
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 11:05 PM
Mar 2014

No A.C. (understandable), but with a 300 c.i. straight-six below 8:1 compression ratio.

One thing the rockers did was to build a raised floor of 2x6 boards supporting sheet plywood. Under this they slid mike stands and some instrument cases, cable bundles, etc. Above, big area to pack amps neatly & have mattresses.

uncle ray

(3,156 posts)
5. f650 and f750s are not pickups.
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 01:03 PM
Mar 2014

moving production here for any model is a good thing, just clarifying that these are not ford's best selling f150. these are produced at a relatively low volume.

doc03

(35,340 posts)
6. No more Econline! I drove one of those around Fort Gordon for about 8 months back in
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 01:04 PM
Mar 2014

1966-67. On the weekends we would do military funerals around Georgia and South Carolina. One trip we were late for the funeral because of a mix up
so our seargent aranged for a GHP escort. I hit 100 MPH in that van. I always wondered what the locals thought was going on
with a Georgia HP cruiser going through town like a bat out of hell being pursed by an Econoline van with 7 solders in it.

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
12. "labor costs are slightly higher in Ohio than Mexico"
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 01:30 PM
Mar 2014

Slightly??

I guess we have Kasich, the Koch brothers and a whole host of other ant-worker groups who have made low wages in Ohio possible.


IDemo

(16,926 posts)
13. She's the salt of the Earth, straight from the bosom of the Mormon Church,
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 02:34 PM
Mar 2014

with a voice like wine, cruisin' along in her Ford Econoline..

-Nanci Griffith, "Ford Econoline"

 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
15. Excellent news! I would love to know the economics behind this.
Fri Mar 7, 2014, 11:01 PM
Mar 2014

I wonder if projected lower energy costs are a factor. Ohio is right atop the Utica Shale, a formation that is projected to yield lower natural gas costs for a number or years going forward.

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