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HipChick

(25,485 posts)
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 06:10 PM Mar 2012

Which kind of legal systems makes a man go to jail for killing dogs

but not a man who pursues & kills an unarmed teenager?


What kind of legal system arrests a man for flour-bombing Kim Kardashian - but not a man who pursues & kills an unarmed teenager?

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Which kind of legal systems makes a man go to jail for killing dogs (Original Post) HipChick Mar 2012 OP
A canocentric legal system slackmaster Mar 2012 #1
What does canocentric mean? n/t Kurska Mar 2012 #7
Dog-centric, perhaps? n/t X_Digger Mar 2012 #17
Dog-centric slackmaster Mar 2012 #19
A "F__ked" up legal system is no reason to equate justice for the most despicable animal cruelty hlthe2b Mar 2012 #2
There are more than two examples I posted.. HipChick Mar 2012 #5
You equate one success of justice as being somehow wrong because another situation has gone horribly hlthe2b Mar 2012 #10
I didn't read it like that at all lunatica Mar 2012 #21
+1000! SammyWinstonJack Mar 2012 #20
The American legal system. ZombieHorde Mar 2012 #3
The American system..designed, and enforces by white men. nt nanabugg Mar 2012 #4
One where an investigation is completed and a grand jury returns an indictment Peregrine Mar 2012 #6
Agree...but don't you think that the investigation is comprised now? HipChick Mar 2012 #8
I think this case is going to expose just how broken our so called "justice ecstatic Mar 2012 #9
We have been wishing this since the New Testament was written n/t siligut Mar 2012 #12
Exactly HipChick Mar 2012 #13
What is wrong with going to jail for killing dogs? Kurska Mar 2012 #11
Excellent questions malaise Mar 2012 #14
Ding..Ding..and we have a winner! HipChick Mar 2012 #15
A Racist One of course. CBGLuthier Mar 2012 #16
The legal system sometimes works... cynatnite Mar 2012 #18
I always think of our legal system as an evolving institution lunatica Mar 2012 #22
Kardashian is white enough. Nuff said. Zalatix Mar 2012 #23

hlthe2b

(102,357 posts)
2. A "F__ked" up legal system is no reason to equate justice for the most despicable animal cruelty
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 06:17 PM
Mar 2012

as somehow being "wrong", no matter how blatantly wrong the local police action in this Martin killing may be. One does not--in any way-- equate to the other. It makes me ill that animal cruelty is so often suggested (or inferred) to be "frivolous" because some horrendous crime has gone unpunished. If you really want to suggest that Michael Vick (or another high profile animal killer) should NOT have been punished, just because of the Martin situation, please come out and say it. I'm sure a lot of us would want to know that is your position.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
5. There are more than two examples I posted..
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 06:21 PM
Mar 2012

why you choose to focus on one more than another, I'm not sure...my point is, this law needs to be revisited..period

hlthe2b

(102,357 posts)
10. You equate one success of justice as being somehow wrong because another situation has gone horribly
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 06:25 PM
Mar 2012

wrong. That equating of one setting as being less worthy of justice than the other is truly repulsive. I value all life. And I will not equate one wrong with being more worthy over another-- for some perverted sense of "justice."

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
21. I didn't read it like that at all
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 10:45 AM
Mar 2012

I think the OP said that if people are sent to prison for killing dogs then there's something wrong when people who kill other people don't go to prison. Comparisons are not always either/or situations. It's more like saying how can a legal system act like killing dogs is worse than killing people when it should be that killing dogs and killing people are wrong and should both be punished.

Peregrine

(992 posts)
6. One where an investigation is completed and a grand jury returns an indictment
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 06:22 PM
Mar 2012

Figure that, actually investigate. Now he should have been arrested, arraigned, released on bond during the investigation and re-arrested if an indictment is issued.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
8. Agree...but don't you think that the investigation is comprised now?
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 06:23 PM
Mar 2012

The allowed him to walk, with evidence?

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
11. What is wrong with going to jail for killing dogs?
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 06:29 PM
Mar 2012

I think both those things are something someone should go jail on. Our animal rights laws are already woefully inadequate for the type of abuse that animals are subjected to in our society, is that really the legal subset you want to hope up as unjust?

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
16. A Racist One of course.
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 07:00 PM
Mar 2012

Not to say that motherfucker should not have gone to jail for killing the dogs but mostly the US justice system is an exercise in racism.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
18. The legal system sometimes works...
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 07:11 PM
Mar 2012

"This is a case about a group of racist thugs who made a sport of targeting vulnerable African Americans in Jackson, and attacking them without provocation, simply because of the color of their skin," said Thomas Perez, assistant attorney general for the Department of Justice Civil Rights Division.

"On a number of occasions, they drove around Jackson looking for African Americans to assault. Jackson is a venerable community. However, for these defendants, Jackson was 'Jafrica'; African Americans were subhuman, and their mission was to drive around Jackson looking for African Americans to attack."

<--->

On Thursday, one day after Dedmon was sentenced to two life terms in prison after pleading guilty to murder under a state hate crime law, he, Rice and Butler were charged and pleaded guilty in U.S. District Court to one count of conspiracy and one count of violating the federal hate crime law.

None of the three gave statements but admitted they targeted African Americans. They gave brief answers to U.S. District Judge Carlton Reeves' standard questions for a guilty plea.

http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20120323/NEWS/303230004/3-plead-guilty-hate-crime?odyssey=mod%7Cnewswell%7Ctext%7CHome%7Cs

They beat and murdered James Craig Anderson. They ran him down with a F-250 pickup truck. The system does work. It's not perfect, but at least in this case...it worked.

Also, the WOMAN who flour bombed Kim Kardashian was not charged.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
22. I always think of our legal system as an evolving institution
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 10:53 AM
Mar 2012

And I hope that someday it will evolve into something just and fair for all living things. I'd like to see the death penalty abolished entirely. And I would like to see true rehabilitation practiced. Our legal system may be better than it was a hundred years ago, but it needs much improvement.

And forcing women to undergo disgusting vaginal probes is not the kind of evolution I'm talking about.

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