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Glenn Greenwald, editor of the newly launched digital publication The Intercept, told attendees at SXSWi that the National Security Agency is wary of anyone who takes steps to protect their online activity from being hacked, such as using encryption tools.
In (the NSA's) mind, if you want to hide what youre saying from them, it must mean that what youre saying is a bad thing, Greenwald said via a Skype video call. They view the use of encryption
as evidence that youre suspicious and can actually target you if you use it.
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During the panel, Greenwald said the NSA is able to target encrypted communications because so few people actually use encryption tools. That makes the people who are actually trying to stay secure stick out like sore thumbs, thus making it much easier for the agency to focus its efforts on hacking the relatively small bits of encrypted data that they intercept.
I do think individuals have the principal obligation to protect their data, Greenwald said, likening that responsibility to that of lawyers who protect their clients or journalists who protect their sources. But, he said, the biggest reason to begin using encryption is to make it far more difficult for the government to gain access to your data without going through the proper channels such as legal warrants, wiretap orders, or subpoenas.
http://venturebeat.com/2014/03/10/nsa-views-encryption-as-evidence-of-suspicion-and-will-target-those-who-use-it-security-journalist-says/
randome
(34,845 posts)Unless one counts Greenwald's say-so. We should be afraid, very afraid, because Greenwald says we should.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)and given NSA's quite obvious need to capture every bit of information possible
it seems likely they would alert on encryption.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Slides were released several months ago that said the same thing.
tridim
(45,358 posts)Fuck you Greenwald, lying sack of RW Libertarian crap.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)tridim
(45,358 posts)Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)that some people, when confronted with facts that undermined or proved wrong their assertions, rather than add this new info to their intellectual knowledge base, they dug in and stood asserted their ignorance even more vehemently.
It was an interesting study and a good article.
G_j
(40,367 posts)If you use privacy tools, according to the apparent logic of the National Security Agency, it doesnt much matter if youre a foreigner or an American: Your communications are subject to an extra dose of surveillance.
Since 29-year-old systems administrator Edward Snowden began leaking secret documentation of the NSAs broad surveillance programs, the agency has reassured Americans that it doesnt indiscriminately collect their data without a warrant, and that what it does collect is deleted after five years. But according to a document signed by U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder and published Thursday by the Guardian, it seems the NSA is allowed to make ambiguous exceptions for a laundry list of data it gathers from Internet and phone companies. One of those exceptions applies specifically to encrypted information, allowing it to gather the data regardless of its U.S. or foreign origin and to hold it for as long as it takes to crack the datas privacy protections.
The agency can collect and indefinitely keep any information gathered for cryptanalytic, traffic analysis, or signal exploitation purposes, according to the leaked minimization procedures meant to restrict NSA surveillance of Americans. Such communications can be retained for a period sufficient to allow thorough exploitation and to permit access to data that are, or are reasonably believed likely to become, relevant to a future foreign intelligence requirement, the procedures read.
And one measure of that datas relevance to foreign intelligence? The simple fact that the data is encrypted and that the NSA wants to crack it may be enough to let the agency keep it indefinitely. In the context of cryptanalytic effort, maintenance of technical data bases requires retention of all communications that are enciphered or reasonably believed to contain secret meaning, the criteria for the exception reads. Sufficient duration [for retaining the data] may consist of any period of time during which encrypted material is subject to, or of use in, cryptanalysis.
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randome
(34,845 posts)If they have the authority to monitor some drug kingpin and then see that he is using encrypted email, then yes, they are allowed to keep that encrypted data in case it becomes relevant.
That is not at all the same thing as purposely looking for encrypted data around the planet then storing it simply because it's encrypted.
If this is not how it is being done, some kind of evidence needs to be brought to light showing this.
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woo me with science
(32,139 posts)This is the behavior of totalitarianism.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Octafish
(55,745 posts)If the rest of the press had carried half as much water as Greenwald, these two would have long ago been in front of a Grand Jury.
Here's what Greenwald wrote on the subject of NSA abuse by them, when the story broke in 2007. In his story, Greenwald raised questions about the Comey visit to Ashcroft that have still to be answered -- six long warmongering profiteering years later:
Comeys testimony raises new and vital questions about the NSA scandal
The testimony yesterday, while dramatic, underscores how severe a threat to the rule of law this administration poses.
BY GLENN GREENWALD
WEDNESDAY, MAY 16, 2007 06:16 AM EDT
The testimony yesterday from James Comey re-focuses attention on one of the long unresolved mysteries of the NSA scandal. And the new information Comey revealed, though not answering that question decisively, suggests some deeply troubling answers. Most of all, yesterdays hearing underscores how unresolved the entire NSA matter is how little we know (but ought to know) about what actually happened and how little accountability there has been for some of the most severe and blatant acts of presidential lawbreaking in the countrys history.
SNIP...
The key questions still demanding investigation and answers
But the more important issue here, by far, is that we should not have to speculate in this way about how the illegal eavesdropping powers were used. We enacted a law 30 years ago making it a felony for the government to eavesdrop on us without warrants, precisely because that power had been so severely and continuously abused. The President deliberately violated that law by eavesdropping in secret. Why dont we know a-year-a-half after this lawbreaking was revealed whether these eavesdropping powers were abused for improper purposes? Is anyone in Congress investigating that question? Why dont we know the answers to that?
Back in September, the then-ranking member (and current Chairman) of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Jay Rockefeller, made clear how little even he knew about the answers to any of these questions in a letter he released:
For the past six months, I have been requesting without success specific details about the program, including: how many terrorists have been identified; how many arrested; how many convicted; and how many terrorists have been deported or killed as a direct result of information obtained through the warrantless wiretapping program.
[font size="6"][font color="red"]I can assure you, not one person in Congress has the answers to these and many other fundamental questions.[/font size][/font color]
CONTINUED...
http://www.salon.com/2007/05/16/nsa_comey/
Instead, six years and who-knows-how-many lives later, Bush and Cheney and the rest of their election thieving warmongering bankster oilmen posse continue merrily on their way, unpunished for lying America into war and making huge profits in the process.
Greenwald stood up to Cheney and Bush. He covered the story and asked "Why?" Wonder what NSA has on them?
MisterP
(23,730 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Integrity means calling 'em like you see 'em, no matter who's at the plate. Er. Trough.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)like how the Pentagon in the 50s and 60s insisted that any unionization or protest was a low-grade form of revolution and thus helped Moscow