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boston bean

(36,221 posts)
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 10:30 AM Mar 2014

Watch What This Make-Believe Girl Means To 1,000 Sexual Predators

A Dutch child-rights organization has opened my eyes to a new form of child exploitation. This video is safe for work but will hurt your stomach.

Watch how they gauged the scale of the problem with a 10-week online sting using the help of someone named "Sweetie."


http://www.upworthy.com/watch-what-this-make-believe-girl-means-to-1000-sexual-predators?c=reccon1

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Watch What This Make-Believe Girl Means To 1,000 Sexual Predators (Original Post) boston bean Mar 2014 OP
Sounds like a good use for what is now called the NSA. Scuba Mar 2014 #1
You don't need the NSA... Agschmid Mar 2014 #8
The NSA has resources to tie the content to the meatspace humanoid scum. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #20
Was this November 2013? I wonder how many have been caught Common Sense Party Mar 2014 #2
This is great! NV Whino Mar 2014 #3
Thanks for posting this. Hard Candy for all of those fuckers. Whisp Mar 2014 #4
??? Separation Mar 2014 #44
Holy shit Separation Mar 2014 #45
Excellent. Now, if these criminals are caught and prosecuted, MineralMan Mar 2014 #5
Here's the petition. It doesn't go far enough because webcam is the least of it Catherina Mar 2014 #6
Thank you! This is a really positive effort. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #7
signed. K&R Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #10
Thanks Catherina, and will pass it on. nt. polly7 Mar 2014 #21
I saw this once before maybe they got a fat radio personality from Missouri on that wall? gordianot Mar 2014 #9
I would start up a website with all their information posted, videos, pictures snooper2 Mar 2014 #11
What in the fuck ?? Amaya Mar 2014 #12
Well that just creeped me the hell out. arcane1 Mar 2014 #13
Great use of tech. That might be the first case berni_mccoy Mar 2014 #14
K&R Solly Mack Mar 2014 #15
Unfrikkin believable....sick bastards Johnny Noshoes Mar 2014 #16
Thanks for posting this, I had no idea the scale of the problem! Have signed the petition mrsadm Mar 2014 #17
That was really sickening. Those men are pigs. Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #18
Unreal! blackspade Mar 2014 #19
Ummm.... so ..... why not set up fake computer kids and let pervs have their fun? TalkingDog Mar 2014 #22
=/ TeeYiYi Mar 2014 #23
Wow. Just wow. NuclearDem Mar 2014 #24
People who want to abuse children gollygee Mar 2014 #25
OMG. Sick. boston bean Mar 2014 #26
I agree. It is sick. And disgusting. But a whole lot less damaging than raping children. TalkingDog Mar 2014 #29
You do know they are trying to iniate contact with children in order to molest or rape them? BainsBane Mar 2014 #41
Statistics for the uninformed... marions ghost Mar 2014 #27
So, don't have a better idea, you just think they will magically disappear if we stop all child porn TalkingDog Mar 2014 #28
You can't treat the problem if you deny the problem marions ghost Mar 2014 #34
Thank you for this. Porn doesn't stop rape. redqueen Mar 2014 #40
Right marions ghost Mar 2014 #46
Excellent points, redqueen Mar 2014 #47
with ya marions ghost Mar 2014 #48
Will murder magically disappear? BainsBane Mar 2014 #42
No. Just no. bettyellen Mar 2014 #33
Maybe because knowingly jacking off to a fake computer kid wouldn't work for them. n/t Gormy Cuss Mar 2014 #43
Disgusting. Texasgal Mar 2014 #30
Right now the DEA gets upwards of 60 Billion a year to fill prisons with people for pot smoking. Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #31
can someone tell me why so many men want to have sex with children Skittles Mar 2014 #32
Lots of studies trying to answer that question marions ghost Mar 2014 #36
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No marions ghost Mar 2014 #37
That's actually a terrible idea. Frank Cannon Mar 2014 #38
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Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
8. You don't need the NSA...
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 11:35 AM
Mar 2014

These people are doing these activities openly on chat-roulette.

It's disgusting.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
20. The NSA has resources to tie the content to the meatspace humanoid scum.
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 01:29 PM
Mar 2014

And they should be doing so.

How is this NOT a national security issue?

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
4. Thanks for posting this. Hard Candy for all of those fuckers.
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 11:10 AM
Mar 2014

What the Hell is wrong that so many men think kids are for sex?
SO MANY!!!

and if an Mra comes in here trying to splain that it's really not men's fault I wouldn't be surprised. I can hear their hooves coming from the distance.

Separation

(1,975 posts)
44. ???
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 10:57 AM
Mar 2014

I highly doubt ANYONE, man or woman, would/could defend having sex with a child here. What's with the hooves comment?

Separation

(1,975 posts)
45. Holy shit
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 11:03 AM
Mar 2014

Somebody did just that down thread. . I'm actually speechless.....

You have my sincere apology.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
6. Here's the petition. It doesn't go far enough because webcam is the least of it
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 11:24 AM
Mar 2014

These sickos travel and tons of kids, young women from poor countries disappear each year. Banning the webcams is a positive step but we need a LOT more, starting with government accountability when they protect these sickos, to wit the scandals in the UK right now.

Here's the link to their petition http://avaaz.org/en/wcst/

I hope everyone signs. Even if signing petitions doesn't do much at least it spreads the word and makes it clear people want this stopped.

Rec'd

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
9. I saw this once before maybe they got a fat radio personality from Missouri on that wall?
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 11:35 AM
Mar 2014

Testosterone baking their brains driving them mad. They need to keep scamming them for using the virtual sweety making them pay before they lower the boom.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
11. I would start up a website with all their information posted, videos, pictures
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 11:44 AM
Mar 2014

And ensure it's one of the first things that pops up when you hit their name-

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
13. Well that just creeped me the hell out.
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 12:18 PM
Mar 2014


I would also consider that to be a NSFW video.

Petition signed!!!

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
22. Ummm.... so ..... why not set up fake computer kids and let pervs have their fun?
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 02:37 PM
Mar 2014

It's not a crime to have sexual contact with a computer program.

The money they pay could be used to rescue real children who are actually in harm's way.

Distasteful? Yes. But studies show it is incredibly difficult to stop pedophiles. They have notoriously high recidivism rates. If you gather up all of them, there will be another generation and another and another. Hydra.

Recent studies suggest some of them have fundamental differences in their brains.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/10/19/can-science-spot-a-pedophile-research-zeroes-in-on-brain-abnormalities.html

Just make a computer program to divert their attention from real children.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
25. People who want to abuse children
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 03:04 PM
Mar 2014

want to abuse children. If they knew it was a computer program, they wouldn't be interested.

And obviously they aren't only talking to "Sweetie." She just happens to be who is available at that moment. If enough men get caught then hopefully they'll get scared and will stop abusing vulnerable children. Right now they're doing it at the rates they are because there has been basically no penalty.

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
41. You do know they are trying to iniate contact with children in order to molest or rape them?
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 10:45 AM
Mar 2014

If they thought it was just a computer program, they wouldn't be interested. They are pedophiles. They aren't computer gamers.

Murder is never going to be eradicated either. That doesn't mean we should just forget about it.

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
28. So, don't have a better idea, you just think they will magically disappear if we stop all child porn
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 08:42 PM
Mar 2014

Yah. That'll happen.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
34. You can't treat the problem if you deny the problem
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 06:46 AM
Mar 2014

but you go ahead and defend child pornographers...


The Statistics

Recent studies demonstrate that those who collect and disseminate child pornography are likely to molest an actual child. According to the United States Postal Inspection Service, at least 80% of purchasers of child pornography are active abusers and nearly 40% of the child pornographers investigated over the past several years have sexually molested children in the past. From January 1997 through March 2004, 1,807 child pornographers were arrested and 620 of these individuals were confirmed child molesters.

Therefore, between 34-36% of these child pornographers were actual child molesters, defined as someone who had confessed to acts of molestation, someone who had a record for molestation, or someone who was involved in an overt act in order to procure children for sexual purposes. The 620 confirmed child molesters led to 839 child victims who were identified and rescued.

(more at link)
http://www.ndaa.org/pdf/Update_gr_vol1_no3.pdf

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
46. Right
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 02:26 PM
Mar 2014

--it's one thing to argue that porn doesn't stimulate rape incidence, it's quite another thing to argue that porn reduces the inclination to rape. No study has proven the latter.

On the contrary there are enough stats to conclude that child porn of any kind may provide a stimulus for child sex abuse. (Real child porn being rape to begin with). Virtual child porn could also be a stimulus to actual rape, since there's a clear correlation between child porn and acting out behavior.

Dunno, maybe these are the same people who think that the proliferation of adult rape porn stops people from raping adults...notice I said Rape Porn, not all porn, but all porn now tends to violence and domination, so the question is certainly relevant to the current psycho-sociological experiment. At this point there is no conclusive evidence.

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Other factors have slowed rape down in general, over the last decades:

1) Public education campaign carried on via TV, movies, etc. from the 1970s forward, from which (a) men have learned that that rapists are not smooth ladies' men like Rhett Butler but sadistic creeps, and (b) women have learned about the prevalence of rape and have also learned self-protective behaviors.

2) Development of DNA testing as forensic tool.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
48. with ya
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 06:16 PM
Mar 2014


Seems like there's a lot of urban mythology out there --re. the idea that watching rapist porn can prevent raping...that is a real stretch given what we already know.

Nothing is proven. Obviously it's a little hard to get good data. Nobody knows who would rape if they could get away with it. Interviewing rapists who are apprehended doesn't tell you about who is controlling their urges, for whatever reason.

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
42. Will murder magically disappear?
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 10:47 AM
Mar 2014

no, but does that mean we shouldn't bother prosecuting it?

Additionally, children are raped in the commission of child porn. The porn itself is rape. Do you get that?

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
31. Right now the DEA gets upwards of 60 Billion a year to fill prisons with people for pot smoking.
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 08:50 PM
Mar 2014

I think at least some of that money could instead go to catching these folks, don't you?

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
36. Lots of studies trying to answer that question
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 07:04 AM
Mar 2014

but nothing conclusive. Possibly something wrong in wiring at an early age, for example:

Functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) has shown that child molesters diagnosed with pedophilia have reduced activation of the hypothalamus as compared with non-pedophilic persons when viewing sexually arousing pictures of adults.[88] A 2008 functional neuroimaging study notes that central processing of sexual stimuli in heterosexual "paedophile forensic inpatients" may be altered by a disturbance in the prefrontal networks, which "may be associated with stimulus-controlled behaviors, such as sexual compulsive behaviors". The findings may also suggest "a dysfunction at the cognitive stage of sexual arousal processing".

Blanchard, Cantor, and Robichaud (2006) reviewed the research that attempted to identify hormonal aspects of pedophiles.[64] They concluded that there is some evidence that pedophilic men have less testosterone than controls, but that the research is of poor quality and that it is difficult to draw any firm conclusion from it.

A study analyzing the sexual fantasies of 200 heterosexual men by using the Wilson Sex Fantasy Questionnaire exam determined that males with a pronounced degree of paraphilic interest (including pedophilia) had a greater number of older brothers, a high 2D:4D digit ratio (which would indicate excessive prenatal estrogen exposure), and an elevated probability of being left-handed, suggesting that disturbed hemispheric brain lateralization may play a role in deviant attractions.[90]

(Wikipedia)

Response to boston bean (Original post)

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
37. No
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 07:09 AM
Mar 2014

Find them and treat them.

Cognitive behavioral therapy, also known as relapse prevention, has been shown to reduce recidivism in contact sex offenders.

According to Canadian sexologist Michael C. Seto, cognitive-behavioral treatments target attitudes, beliefs, and behaviors that are believed to increase the likelihood of sexual offenses against children, and "relapse prevention" is the most common type of cognitive behavioral treatment. The techniques of relapse prevention are based on principles used for treating addictions. Other scientists have also done some research that indicates that recidivism rates of pedophiles in therapy are lower than pedophiles who eschew therapy. (Wiki)

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Makers and sellers of child pornography should be prosecuted.

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
38. That's actually a terrible idea.
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 07:41 AM
Mar 2014

You would only ensure that they murder the only witnesses to their crimes.

Throw them in the slammer and try to treat them (although that's never been that successful). But first of all, they need to be caught.

Response to Frank Cannon (Reply #38)

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