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phantom power

(25,966 posts)
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 12:29 PM Mar 2014

Idiocracy: Oregon allows students to leave school for daily Biblical indoctrination

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According to Mehta, PREP4Kids offers a shuttle to transfer students from Banks Elementary School to Banks Community United Methodist Church. Once there, they learn “about God and how He made the world.”

The program claims to be non-denominational, and teaches the Christian Bible in four-year cycles. Volunteer Tia Adams — who does not need to be licensed by the state to teach this course, and has taught it since 2007 — said that “I just love teaching kids about the gospel.”

According to OregonLive, the program operates under a decades-old law that allows students to leave school to attend religious classes with their parents’ approval.

On March 4, 2014, Adams’s lesson-plan required students to learn the meaning of the word “catastrophe” and understand the concept of sin, in order to understand the Biblical story of Noah’s ark. Adams spoke about the animals that went aboard, including dinosaurs, and the class ended with a recitation of the 10 Commandments and singing in the church’s chapel.

Banks School District Superintendent Bob Huston said that the problem with the programs is that taking students out of the classroom — even for only an hour — can have a significantly deleterious effect on their progress relative to their classmates.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/03/11/idiocracy-oregon-allows-students-to-leave-school-for-daily-biblical-indoctrination/
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PumpkinAle

(1,210 posts)
1. Banks School District Superintendent Bob Huston said
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 12:33 PM
Mar 2014

"that the problem with the programs is that taking students out of the classroom — even for only an hour — can have a significantly deleterious effect on their progress relative to their classmates."

Agree - totally dumbing down of America through religious indoctrination, which surely goes against the Constitution and separation of Church and State.


 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
13. CA did it when I was a kid, Catholic kids in particular had to 'learn Catechism' and they
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 02:19 PM
Mar 2014

left class to do so regularly. They called it 'religious release'.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
16. Same here, in the 1950s. I think it was an hour outside the classroom once a week.
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 02:58 PM
Mar 2014

I went to elementary school in the San Fernando Valley. There were options for Catholic, Protestant, and Jewish kids. It was offered as an extracurricular activity and signed parental consent was required.

For those who are now freaking out about forced religion, please let me point out that we did not do prayer of any kind inside the classroom, just the Pledge of Allegiance which originally did not reference God.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
3. "Not you, Ahmed! Sit back down!"
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 01:18 PM
Mar 2014

What an exercise in stupidity. School is for learning. Religion is for...whatever religion is for.
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Sometimes it builds a bigger cage around the one you’re already in.
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snooper2

(30,151 posts)
6. This is the reason why when I pass a church with my four year old
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 01:23 PM
Mar 2014

and she asks-

"daddy, what is that place"

I say-

"It's where old people go to hang out with other old people"


 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
7. long ago & far away, I remember fellow students leaving once a week for Hebrew school.
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 01:26 PM
Mar 2014

too long ago and I was too young to remember any more details than that.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
8. A lot of states have religious release programs.
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 01:28 PM
Mar 2014

They go back a long way. Such a program existed in my own schools, way back in the 1950s. Those of us, like me, who did not participate got extra instruction from our regular teachers. My 6th grade teacher, for example, took that time to teach the kids who did not participate Spanish.

The kids who went to the religious release programs got left out of that. Tough luck for them.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
15. I suppose they did. I was all growed up by then,
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 02:47 PM
Mar 2014

though. Religious release is still pretty common around the country, and it has been tested in the courts. I think it's wrong-headed, though, and never participated in it when I was a kid.

MountainLaurel

(10,271 posts)
9. I believe several states allow this
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 01:29 PM
Mar 2014

A friend of mine in Virginia was the first student in her school to opt out, back in the 80s. She sat in the library and read while everyone else left the school. Another friend's father, as new superintendent of schools in a county near a guy named Barry Walfell, received death threats from local loving Christians when he tried to stop the practice.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
10. this has been ongoing for quite some time
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 01:51 PM
Mar 2014

when i was in elementary school in the 60's in the OC, it was called released time christian education. we were let out of class into a trailer for bible study. i wasn't even raised with religion, but what kid didn't want to get out of class, so i went. mine was protestant, but catholics had their own trailer.

but it wasn't daily...maybe once a month.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
12. I have no problem with this as I understand it
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 02:09 PM
Mar 2014

The kids still must meet school standards,

As long as transportation and costs are borne by the parents of the participants or the institution providing the religious training, I'm of the opinion that it's a freedom I can tolerate.

I don't have to believe it. I don't have to endorse directly or indirectly what is taught.

I can tolerate it enough to give it a chance. I understand that parents have authority to make choices and contribute to decision making about about educational exposure for their children.

If the school can demonstrate that these parental choices significantly harm the students 'progress' relative to their classmates this decision can be revisited.






Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
17. I remember that in upstate New York about 60-62. Parents had to sign permission slips and
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 03:06 PM
Mar 2014

some opted out completely. Of those who opted in - some went to a Protestant class while others went to a Catholic class and a few to a Jehovah Witness class. Those kids whose parents opted them out stayed behind and played.

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