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ProSense

(116,464 posts) Tue Mar 11, 2014, 03:13 PM Mar 2014

Russia says planned US financial aid to Ukraine is illegal

Russia says planned US financial aid to Ukraine is illegal

(Reuters) - Russia warned the United States on Tuesday about the consequences of planned financial support to what it called Ukraine's illegitimate regime, saying the aid would be illegal.

The U.S. House of Representatives last week approved $1 billion worth of loan guarantees for Ukraine and U.S. senators are preparing legislation that aides said would be broader and could include sanctions against Russia.

The Russian foreign ministry explicitly referred to a statement made earlier on Tuesday by ousted President Viktor Yanukovich..."By all criteria, issuing funding to an illegitimate regime that seized power by force is unlawful and goes beyond the framework of the American legal system."

The statement is likely to further increase tension between Russia and the West amid diplomatic deadlock over Ukraine after sustained pro-Western unrest toppled the pro-Russian Yanukovich. A phone call on Tuesday between Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and American counterpart John Kerry achieved little.

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/11/us-ukraine-crisis-russia-us-idUSBREA2A1CS20140311

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Russia says planned US financial aid to Ukraine is illegal (Original Post) ProSense Mar 2014 OP

So says Bashar al Assad's sponsor. Fuck Putin nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #1

You beat me to it Peacetrain Mar 2014 #2

That was nice of them for letting us know snooper2 Mar 2014 #3

House Passes $1 Billion in Loan Guarantees to Aid Ukraine ProSense Mar 2014 #4

Thanks for the heads up Putin. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #5

The US was awfully quick to recognize a pretty sketchy new regime. reformist2 Mar 2014 #6

and Russia is just saying this out of noble sentiment cali Mar 2014 #9

The ProSense Mar 2014 #10

As if invading a foreign country using troops with no identifying markings TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #7

Aid is illegal? Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #8

The Russian foreign ministry ... Igel Mar 2014 #11

I think this has more to do with the type of aid. You see, it's energy subsidies. Money that would okaawhatever Mar 2014 #12

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)

1. So says Bashar al Assad's sponsor. Fuck Putin nt

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Tue Mar 11, 2014, 03:15 PM

Mar 2014

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)

2. You beat me to it

Reply to geek tragedy (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 03:17 PM

Mar 2014

Putins support for mass murder in Syria.. makes me want to stand up and scream..

snooper2

(30,151 posts)

3. That was nice of them for letting us know

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Tue Mar 11, 2014, 03:23 PM

Mar 2014

ProSense

(116,464 posts)

4. House Passes $1 Billion in Loan Guarantees to Aid Ukraine

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Tue Mar 11, 2014, 03:44 PM

Mar 2014

House Passes $1 Billion in Loan Guarantees to Aid Ukraine

The U.S. House passed a measure to allow $1 billion in loan guarantees sought by the Obama administration to help restore financial stability in Ukraine.

The House voted 385-23 today under an expedited process to let the government guarantee private-sector loans to Ukraine. The bill, H.R. 4152, would allow previously appropriated funds to be used to cover the cost of the guarantees.

The vote is a first step in Congress to assist Ukraine, which has been rattled by political crisis and a Russian military siege of Crimea. President Barack Obama said today the U.S. and its allies will keep raising pressure on Russia to back down in Ukraine.

“We are well beyond the days when borders can be redrawn over the heads of democratic leaders,” Obama said at the White House.

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-06/house-passes-1-billion-in-loan-guarantees-to-aid-ukraine.html

The no votes were Republicans: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2014/roll114.xml

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)

5. Thanks for the heads up Putin.

Reply to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 03:46 PM

Mar 2014

reformist2

(9,841 posts)

6. The US was awfully quick to recognize a pretty sketchy new regime.

Reply to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 03:50 PM

Mar 2014

cali

(114,904 posts)

9. and Russia is just saying this out of noble sentiment

Reply to reformist2 (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 04:20 PM

Mar 2014

no ulterior motives there

ProSense

(116,464 posts)

10. The

Reply to reformist2 (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 04:20 PM

Mar 2014

"The US was awfully quick to recognize a pretty sketchy new regime"

...Ukraine government didn't disintegrate.

4. Mr. Putin says: Ukraine’s government is illegitimate. Yanukovych is still the legitimate leader of Ukraine.

The Facts: On March 4, President Putin himself acknowledged the reality that Yanukovych “has no political future.” After Yanukovych fled Ukraine, even his own Party of Regions turned against him, voting to confirm his withdrawal from office and to support the new government. Ukraine’s new government was approved by the democratically elected Ukrainian Parliament, with 371 votes – more than an 82% majority. The interim government of Ukraine is a government of the people, which will shepherd the country toward democratic elections on May 25th – elections that will allow all Ukrainians to have a voice in the future of their country.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024612455

Current factions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verkhovna_Rada#Current_factions

Factions in parliament after elections
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Ukrainian_parliamentary_election#Factions_in_parliament_after_elections

Acting President Oleksandr Turchynov is a member of the Fatherland Party, which is the biggest bloc in the Ukraine Parliament.

Secretary of State John Kerry, Ukraine's interim President Oleksandr Turchynov (left), and Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk met in Kiev.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/world/2014/03/04/photos-crisis-ukraine/1qW4mjbnRwGOilPKWKPXDK/story.html?pic=1

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)

7. As if invading a foreign country using troops with no identifying markings

Reply to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 04:15 PM

Mar 2014

isn't illegal. You're funny, Russia.

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)

8. Aid is illegal?

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Tue Mar 11, 2014, 04:17 PM

Mar 2014

Igel

(35,320 posts)

11. The Russian foreign ministry ...

Reply to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 06:29 PM

Mar 2014

An expert on Russian law.

An expert on Ukrainian law.

An expert issuing what it believes to be binding opinions on European law--which includes Polish law, French law, German law, British law, as well as EU law and conventions.

And now, adding to its brilliance, experts on American law.

Truly the definition of perfection, ranking among the greatest in the anals of history.

And, no, there is no typo in that last sentence.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)

12. I think this has more to do with the type of aid. You see, it's energy subsidies. Money that would

Reply to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 09:35 PM

Mar 2014

normally go to Gazprom, Russia's gas company that charges an arm and a leg for gas to Ukraine.

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