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http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2014/03/george-bush-lost-entire-generation-republican-partyGeorge Bush Lost an Entire Generation for the Republican Party
By Kevin Drum
Pew has released a new survey about the social and political attitudes of various generations, and it makes for interesting reading. The thing that strikes me the most is just how clear the trends are. Each successive generation is more politically independent; more religiously independent; less likely to be married in their 20s; less trusting of others; less likely to self-ID as patriotic; and less opposed to gay rights. There's virtually no overlap at all. It's just a smooth, straight progression.
But the single most interesting chart in the report is one that doesn't show this smooth progression. You've probably seen this before from other sources, but the chart on the right basically shows that for the past 40 years voting patterns haven't differed much by age. In fact, there's virtually no difference between generations at all until you get to the George Bush era. At that point, young voters suddenly leave the Republican Party en masse. Millennials may be far less likely than older generations to say there's a big difference between Republicans and Democrats, but their actual voting record belies that.
Whatever it was that Karl Rove and George Bush didand there are plenty of possibilities, ranging from Iraq to gays to religionthey massively alienated an entire generation of voters. Sure, they managed to squeak out a couple of presidential victories, but they did it at the cost of losing millions of voters who will probably never fully return. This chart is their legacy in a nutshell.
Cha
(297,290 posts)Americans capable of thinking for themselves were turned away in droves.
mahalo babylonsistah~
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)We will find out just how much we gained in a few minutes. The polls just closed and hopefully Sink won! We need a win going into November.
riqster
(13,986 posts)We lost. Typical off-year Dem lassitude.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)herding cats
(19,565 posts)As far as ramifications from the Bush era go, this is one I can live with.
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)This is almost worse, because people will elect democratic presidents, but once in office, he/she will be hogtied by belligerent know-nothings whose only goal is to watch them fail to deliver anything of value to the nation.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)to red again. It seems they go back and forth every other time they redistrict my district. Now, I'm stuck with another fucking Rethug who votes against the best interests of the people in my blue home county.
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)We FINALLY got rid of her after our redistricting
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)warrior1
(12,325 posts)WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)how long before we see it translate to more seats?
I'll give it a golf clap for now
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)For a segment of the electorate that was largely hyped by the mainstream media as being disinterested and disaffected, Millennial voters turned out to the 2010 polls in solid numbers. Almost nine million Americans between the ages of 18 and 29 voted in yesterday's elections. In the last midterm, almost 10 million people in the same age group voted. According to a report by CIRCLE, "An estimated 20.4 percent of young Americans under the age of 30 voted in Tuesdays midterm elections, compared to 23.5 percent in the last midterm election (2006)."
http://ndn.org/blog/2010/11/youth-vote-2010-midterm-millennials-continue-vote-break-democrats
Skittles
(153,169 posts)nice to see that all the corporate repuke propaganda in the word did not sway them
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)I hope the next generation is even more progressive. Maybe we can finally get out from under the oppression of the GOP.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)as long as they're not stereotyping me as a boomer
unblock
(52,252 posts)but that would be a huge insult to carter. carter was, at worst, the victim of circumstance, whereas shrub and his gang was pretty close to the root cause of vastly worse results for the country.
but politically speaking, carter was someone republicans gained from by running against for years and years, long after carter retired. they foisted a bad image on him and milked it for all it was worth.
we need to do the same with shrub. the bad image is already there, and richly deserved.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)Skidmore
(37,364 posts)Lord knows, they spent a century on this project. Those bastards will be back unless we leave bread crumbs for the young ones to follow.
sheshe2
(83,788 posts)As much as the GOP and Faux wants to dumb them down. It's not working. They are smarter than that and far more tolerant.
Thanks bsister!
UTUSN
(70,706 posts)thesquanderer
(11,989 posts)The chart doesn't tell you that. I don't think the author's premise holds water, if his evidence is simply this chart.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Ya'know the Senator who claims one thing but will do another. Anywho repeat from history.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)calimary
(81,304 posts)PhilSays
(55 posts)Being anti-Republican is fine, but I get so frustrated with the 'Rage Against The Machine' types.
In 2011, I embraced the mainstream Democratic Party and never looked back.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)Have fun! I know what you mean about the holier than voting crowd. They piss me off - but not as much as anyone who votes republican pisses me off.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)(as a millennial) for getting involved. Other people around my age may see voting as futile and/or think of the two major parties as similar, but I know that participation in every election (presidential or not) goes a long way in changing the way things work in D.C. There is one major party where once we seen them in power, wars get started, unemployment rises, the deficit rises, and people lose rights. They are ironically why I have been interested in politics fresh out of high school, and why I'll continue on with it for as long as I live.
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)Throw in minority disparity (including Asians) and you create a large hill to climb. That being said, if the Repubs ever take power again they may never give it up.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Not only the disparity in the amount of minority vote, but the shear change in demographics with the growing number of Latinos. Texas is ripe for the picking. It will just be a matter of when.
alp227
(32,027 posts)"We have lost the South for a generation," after the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act ended the Dixiecrat' near 100-year monopoly of the South.
In 2008, GWB might as well have told Rove, "We have lost the next generation of voters."
tea and oranges
(396 posts)Funny how you can lose the South for doing the right thing & lose the next generation for fucking everything up.
maced666
(771 posts)Don't think for one second that we don't have to work our butts off later this year. No time to sleep.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)I'm not sure how anyone could say "probably never fully return". In the last 2 elections, Dems ran the younger "hipper" candidate. It seems like some of the mid-terms don't necessarily reflect this trend either. How many people who would have never dreamed of voting for Nixon in '68 ended up voting for Raygun in '84? People change, and I don't see why we shouldn't expect that to continue.
JHB
(37,160 posts)It may very well be true, but do not count on it. The only counting that matters are the ones after elections. All elections, down to school board and library trustee, not just presidential elections.
Did that margin show up for the 2010 elections?
I have my doubts also. The gerrymandering mentioned in earlier posts, the short term memory of people. I have a friend who still thinks the idiot son was a good president. We were shedding 800,000 jobs a month for gosh sakes and he works for a private business for gosh sakes. I hope I'm wrong about this though.
Peace
sibelian
(7,804 posts)"Chortle, wink! No Millennials here! heh heh!"
UTUSN
(70,706 posts)For those disappointed in whatever amount of "change" there has been, it was a slogan devoid of a specific agenda, and this is not a critical comment, only saying that the (unspoken) "change" was entirely change away FROM SHRUB, who never should have been there in the first place.
Anybody short of a circus freak could have beaten the Rethugs in '08. And between Hillary and OBAMA, Hillary was just less of a change FROM SHRUB, and the bigger the change FROM SHRUB the victor.
babylonsister
(171,070 posts)a hopeful change.
I could provide a list of accomplishments, but won't. I'll just start with Obamacare; with all its imperfections, it's going to be a big hit.
UTUSN
(70,706 posts)Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)You finally did something right, you pretzel choking, word making up, lying, murderous, worthless, psychotic, homophobic, sexist, racist asshole.
Heckuva Job, Bushie.
Now that we see the Rethuglicans have scraped the bottom of the barrel and shot themselves in the foot with their latest shithead Bush, maybe we'll stand a chance at a better tomorrow. I hope so. I'm not getting any damn younger and most of my like has been under Rethuglican rule. I'm getting kind of sick of the paternalistic nonsense they spew. It's time to legalize all kinds of good things nationwide and have an economic revival in this country, and send the Rethugs to the dustbin of history.
The Wizard
(12,545 posts)Less than eight years after Muslim extremists terrorized the United States into hysteria, a Mulatto with a Muslim name was elected President. And he even carried the slave states of North Carolina and Virginia.
beerandjesus
(1,301 posts)After all, if Nader hadn't single-handedly delivered America over to Chucklenuts in 2000, the Democrats might have to compete for Millennials!
So come on, who's going to admit it? If it's Nader's fault that Gore lost in 2000, isn't it also Nader's doing that the Millennials are solidly Democratic?
zappaman
(20,606 posts)until now.
Thanks Dubya!
Rex
(65,616 posts)And when someone wants their country to be run and not ruined...they vote for the party least likely to damage their chances of a potential good future. A good part of that is their understanding of right and wrong.
Ahhh... I love seeing progress in the morning...it smells like...victory.
Crowman1979
(3,844 posts)Having your buddy coming home in a body bag or missing a limb will change your political views ASAP.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)but then, only those who are college educated and have had a couple poli-sci classes will even know that. My thoughts are that most young people today are apathetic about government and care only about making the all-mighty dollar. Thanks to the materialistic propaganda that's disseminated on a nightly basis on our televisions .. this is what young people value. $$$
bkanderson76
(266 posts)country from sea to shining sea....A cold reminder for generations to come to never forget and march forward.
I mean for real, it just may Take every bit of a generation to recover from his and Dick's shit.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)StevieM
(10,500 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)My parents were Democrats. I loved my parents and was very obedient to them. They raised me with Democratic values. Before I ever reached middle school years, I was very pre-disposed to be a Democrat.
So, if dufus lost one generation, he probably lost at least 1.5 generations, if not more.
AnneD
(15,774 posts)when talking about Jeb that time. I think he wanted Jeb to be president but we got Dubya and he screwed it up for the whole family. We have the grandson Pee running and he is going for a low level job here in Texas. They are bringing out the big guns in the org. to try and polish that turd. He got in the run off but no telling how far he will go. I have never voted for a Bush and never will.
12kbush
(49 posts)The Dem's have made so many mistakes after the ACA that this younger generation just doesn't know about. Listening to the Conservatives blast this President talking about being $17 Trillion in debt BUT not mentioning that 12 Trillion was from the horrible Bush/Cheney administration. Get it out there Dem's & Progressives or get buried in the dust!
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)Till Reagan.
Something about counting chickens...
RoccoRyg
(260 posts)I have plenty of libertarian-leaning friends here in Chicago. They don't like social programs because they feel anyone on welfare is undeserving of "my money" and refuse to listen when I try to explain why the ACA was needed. They love guns and think all the people killed by guns would have died anyway if the gun wasn't there, and they gush over Reagan and get offended when I introduce facts that get in the way of their fantasy. So don't rely on Bush sucking to deliver votes to the Democratic Party by default.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)The GOP, of course. Not an entire generation of young voters!
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)lovemydog
(11,833 posts)and left the next generation paying. W. and the whole lot are the worst group of Americans in my lifetime.
Turbineguy
(37,342 posts)the only good thing he did.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)1. He stole the presidency in 2000. People may forget that Republicans in Florida purged more than 50,000 African-American voters before Election Day, and then went to the Supreme Court where the GOP-appointed majority stopped a recount that would have awarded the presidency to Vice-President Al Gore if all votes were counted. National news organizations verified that outcome long after Bush had been sworn in.
2. Bushs lies started in that race. Bush ran for office claiming he was a uniter, not a divider. Even though he received fewer popular votes than Gore, he quickly claimed he had the mandate from the American public to push his right-wing agenda.
3. He covered up his past. He was a party boy, the scion of a powerful political family who got away with being a deserter during the Vietnam War. He was reportedly AWOL for over a year from his assigned unit, the Texas Air National Guard, which other military outfits called the "Champagne Division.
4. He loved the death penalty. As Texas governor from 1995-2000, he signed the most execution orders of any governor in U.S. history152 people, including the mentally ill and women who were domestic abuse victims. He spared one mans life, a serial killer.
5. He was a corporate shill from Day 1. Bush locked up the GOP nomination by raising more campaign money from corporate boardrooms than anyone at that time. He lunched with CEOs who would jet into Austin to "educate" him about their political wish lists.
6. He gutted global political progress.He pulled out of the Kyoto Protocol which set requirements for 38 nations to lower greenhouse gas emissions to combat climate change, saying that abiding by the agreement would harm our economy and hurt our workers.
7. He embraced global isolationism. He withdrew from the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty, over Russias protest, taking the U.S. in a direction not seen since World War I.
8. He ignored warnings about Osama bin Laden. He ignored the Aug. 6, 2001 White House intelligence briefing titled, Bin Laden determined to strike in the U.S. Meanwhile, his chief anti-terrorism advisor, Richard Clarke, and first Treasury Secretary, Paul ONeill, testified in Congress that he was intent on invading Iraq within days of becoming president.
9. Ramped up war on drugs, not terrorists. The Bush administration had twice as many FBI agents assigned to the war on drugs than fighting terrorism before 9/11, and kept thousands in that role after the terror attacks.
10. My Pet Goat. He kept reading a picture book to grade-schoolers for seven minutes after his top aides told him that the World Trade Centers had been attacked in 9/11. Then Air Force One flew away from Washington, D.C., vanishing for hours after the attack.
11. Squandered global goodwill after 9/11. Bush thumbed his nose at world sympathy for the victims of the September 11, 2001 attacks, by declaring a global war on terrorism and declaring you are either with us or against us.
12. Bush turned to Iraq not Afghanistan. The Bush administration soon started beating war drums for an attack on Iraq, where there was no proven Al Qaeda link, instead of Afghanistan, where the 9/11 bombers had trained and Osama bin Laden was based. His 2002 State of the Union speech declared that Iraq was part of an Axis of Evil.
13. Attacked United Nation weapons inspectors. The march to war in Iraq started with White House attacks on the credibility of U.N. weapons inspectors in Iraq, whose claims that Saddam Hussein did not have nuclear weapons proved to be true.
14. He flat-out lied about Iraqs weapons. In a major speech in October 2002, he said that Saddam Hussein had the capacity to send unmanned aircraft to the U.S. with bombs that could range from chemical weapons to nuclear devices. We cannot wait for the final proofthe smoking gunthat could come in the form of a mushroom cloud, he said.
15. He ignored the U.N. and launched a war. The Bush administration tried to get the U.N. Security Council to authorize an attack on Iraq, which it refused to do. Bush then decided to lead a "preemptive" attack regardless of international consequences. He did not wait for any congressional authorization to launch a war.
16. Abandoned international Criminal Court. Before invading Iraq, Bush told the U.N. that the U.S. was withdrawing from ratifying the International Criminal Court Treaty to protect American troops from persecution and to allow it to pursue preemptive war.
17. Colin Powells false evidence at U.N. The highly decorated soldier turned Secretary of State presented false evidence at the U.N. as the American mainstream media began its jingoistic drumbeat to launch a war of choice on Saddam Hussein and Iraq.
18. He launched a war on CIA whistleblowers. When a former ambassador, Joseph C. Wilson, wrote a New York Times op-ed saying there was no nuclear threat from Iraq, the White House retaliated by leaking the name and destroying the career of his wife, Valerie Plame, one of the CIAs top national security experts.
19. Bush pardoned the Plame affair leaker. Before leaving office, Bush pardoned the vice presidents top staffer, Scooter Libby, for leaking Plames name to the press.
20. Bush launched the second Iraq War. In April 2003, the U.S. military invaded Iraq for the second time in two decades, leading to hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths and more than a million refugees as a years of sectarian violence took hold on Iraq. Nearly 6,700 U.S. soldiers have died in the Iraq and Afghan wars.
21. Baghdad looted except for oil ministry. The Pentagon failure to plan for a military occupation and transition to civilian rule was seen as Baghdad was looted while troops guarded the oil ministry, suggesting this war was fought for oil riches, not terrorism.
22. The war did not make the U.S. safer. In 2006, a National Intelligence Estimate (a consensus report of the heads of 16 U.S. intelligence agencies) asserted that the Iraq war had increased Islamic radicalism and had worsened the terror threat.
23. U.S. troops were given unsafe gear. From inadequate vests from protection against snipers to Humvees that could not protect soldiers from roadside bombs, the military did not sufficiently equip its soldiers in Iraq, leading to an epidemic of brain injuries.
24. Meanwhile, the war propaganda continued. From landing on an aircraft carrier in a flight suit to declare mission accomplished to surprising troops in Baghdad with a Thanksgiving turkey that was a table decoration used as a prop, Bush defended his war of choice by using soldiers as PR props.
25. He never attended soldiers' funerals. For years after the war started, Bush never attended a funeral even though as of June 2005, 144 soldiers (of the 1,700 killed thus far) were laid to rest in Arlington National Cemetary, about two miles from the White House.
26. Meanwhile, war profiteering surged.The list of top Bush administration officials whose former corporate employers made billions in Pentagon contracts starts with Vice-President Dick Cheney and Halliburton, which made $39.5 billion, and included his daughter, Liz Cheney, who ran a $300 million Middle East partnership program.
27. Bush ignored international ban on torture. Suspected terrorists were captured and tortured by the U.S. military in Baghdads Abu Gharib prison, in the highest profile example of how the Bush White House ignored international agreements, such as the Geneva Convention, that banned torture, and created a secret system of detention that was unmasked when photos made their way to the American media outlets.
28. Created the blackhole at Gitmo and renditions. The Bush White House created the offshore military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, as well as secret detention sites in eastern Europe to evade domestic and military justice systems. Many of the men still jailed in Cuba were turned over to the U.S. military by bounty hunters.
29. Bush violated U.S. Constitution as well.The Bush White House ignored basic civil liberties, most notably by launching a massive domestic spying program where millions of Americans online activities were monitored with the help of big telecom companies. The government had no search warrant or court authority for its electronic dragnet.
30. Iraq war created federal debt crisis.The total costs of the Iraq and Afghan wars will reach between $4 trillion and $6 trillion, when the long-term medical costs are added in for wounded veterans, a March 2013 report by a Harvard researcher has estimated. Earlier reports said the wars cost $2 billion a week.
31. He cut veterans healthcare funding. At the height of the Iraq war, the White House cut funding for veterans healthcare by several billion dollars, slashed more than one billion from military housing and opposed extending healthcare to National Guard families, even as they were repeatedly tapped for extended and repeat overseas deployments.
32. Then Bush decided to cut income taxes. In 2001 and 2003, a series of bills lowered income tax rates, cutting federal revenues as the cost of the foreign wars escalated. The tax cuts disproportionately benefited the wealthy, with roughly one-quarter going to the top one percent of incomes compared to 8.9% going to the middle 20 percent. The cuts were supposed to expire in 2013, but most are still on the books.
33. Assault on reproductive rights.From the earliest days of his first term, the Bush White House led a prolonged assault on reproductive rights. He cut funds for U.N. family planning programs, barred military bases from offering abortions, put right-wing evangelicals in regulatory positions where they rejected new birth control drugs, and issued regulations making fetusesbut not womeneligible for federal healthcare.
34. Cut Pell Grant loans for poor students. His administration froze Pell Grants for years and tightened eligibility for loans, affecting 1.5 million low-income students. He also eliminated other federal job training programs that targeted young people.
35. Turned corporations loose on environment. Bushs environmental record was truly appalling, starting with abandoning a campaign pledge to tax carbon emissions and then withdrawing from the Kyoto Protocol on greenhouse gases. The Sierra Club lists 300 actions his staff took to undermine federal laws, from cutting enforcement budgets to putting industry lobbyists in charge of agencies to keeping energy policies secret.
36.. Said evolution was a theorylike intelligent design.One of his most inflammatory comments was saying that public schools should teach that evolution is a theory with as much validity as the religious belief in intelligent design, or Gods active hand in creating life.
37. Misguided school reform effort. Bushs No Child Left Behind initiative made preparation for standardized tests and resulting test scores the top priority in schools, to the dismay of legions of educators who felt that there was more to learning than taking tests.
38. Appointed flank of right-wing judges. Bushs two Supreme Court picksChief Justice John Roberts and Associate Justice Samuel Alitohave reliably sided with pro-business interests and social conservatives. He also elevated U.S. District Court Judge Charles Pickering to an appeals court, despite his known segregationist views.
39. Gutted the DOJs voting rights section. Bushs Justice Department appointees led a multi-year effort to prosecute so-called voter fraud, including firing seven U.S. attorneys who did not pursue overtly political cases because of lack of evidence.
40. Meanwhile average household incomes fell. When Bush took office in 2000, median household incomes were $52,500. In 2008, they were $50,303, a drop of 4.2 percent, making Bush the only recent two-term president to preside over such a drop.
41. And millions more fell below the poverty line. When Bill Clinton left office, 31.6 million Americans were living in poverty. When Bush left office, there were 39.8 million, according to the U.S. Census, an increase of 26.1 percent. The Census said two-thirds of that growth occurred before the economic downturn of 2008.
42. Poverty among children also exploded. The Census also found that 11.6 million children lived below the poverty line when Clinton left office. Under Bush, that number grew by 21 percent to 14.1 million.
43. Millions more lacked access to healthcare. Following these poverty trends, the number of Americans without health insurance was 38.4 million when Clinton left office. When Bush left, that figure had grown by nearly 8 million to 46.3 million, the Census found. Those with employer-provided benefits fell every year he was in office.
44. Bush let black New Orleans drown. Hurricane Katrina exposed Bushs attitude toward the poor. He didnt visit the city after the storm destroyed the poorest sections. He praised his Federal Emergency Management Agency director for doing a "heck of a job" as the federal government did little to help thousands in the storms aftermath and rebuilding.
45. Yet pandered to religious right. Months before Katrina hit, Bush flew back to the White House to sign a bill to try to stop the comatose Terri Schiavo's feeding tube from being removed, saying the sanctity of life was at stake.
46. Set record for fewest press conferences. During his first term that was defined by the 9/11 attacks, he had the fewest press conferences of any modern president and had never met with the New York Times editorial board.
47. But took the most vacation time. Reporters analyzing Bushs record found that he took off 1,020 days in two four-year termsmore than one out of every three days. No other modern president comes close. Bush also set the record for the longest vacation among modern presidentsfive weeks, the Washington Post noted.
48. Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld. Not since Richard Nixons White House and the era of the Watergate burglary and expansion of the Vietnam War have there been as many power-hungry and arrogant operators holding the levers of power. Cheney ran the White House; Rove the political operation for corporations and the religious right; and Rumsfeld oversaw the wars.
49. Hes escaped accountability for his actions. From Iraq war General Tommy Franks declaration that we dont do body counts to numerous efforts to impeach Bush and top administration officialsprimarily over launching the war in Iraqhe has never been held to account in any official domestic or international tribunal.
50. He may have stolen the 2004 election as well. The closest Bush came to a public referendum on his presidency was the 2004 election, which came down to the swing state of Ohio. There the GOPs voter suppression tactics rivaled Florida in 2000 and many unresolved questions remain about whether the former GOP Secretary of State altered the Election Night totals from rural Bible Belt counties.
Any bright spots? Conservatives will lambaste lists like this for finding nothing good about a president like W. So, yes, he created the largest ocean preserve offshore from Hawaii in his second term. And in his final year in office, his initiative to fight AIDS across Africa has been credited with saving many thousands of lives. But on balance, George W. Bush was more than eight years of missed opportunities for America and the world. He was a disaster, leaving much of America and the world in much worse shape than when he took the oath of office in 2001. His reputation should not be resurrected or restored or seen as anything other than what it was.
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yankee dandee
(12 posts)What floors me is the lack of interest by both Democrats and Republicans about the over 4000 American soldiers killed in Iraq based on lies about "yellow cake uranium" and WMD's the Bush regime implied were atomic bombs.
What about the over 4000 families who have to live with their pain every day?
Has the Bush Oil regime explained why they attacked Iraq? They claim it was about weapons of mass destruction and then said it was for "regime change" where we would be greeted as liberators.
How's that working now?
Why are Democrats so week-kneed spineless jelly fish when it comes to denouncing George W. Bush as a wannebe dictator who tripled the Federal Government and decimated our economy?
Why don't Democrats expose Ronald Reagan as a user/abuser of Christian paranoia?
Are Democrats as theocratically oriented as the right-wing extremists?
Do Democrats seek a Christian theocratic dictatorship just like evangelical Republicans want?
Is there any difference between the two parties?
Why is the tea party so popular, and why doesn't the Democratic Party have their own group to counter them?
And, why don't Democrat elected politicians support Obama better?
And, why do local Democratic Party members answer inquiries with requests for money and never respond to the topic of the inquiry?
muriel_volestrangler
(101,321 posts)What kind of support were you thinking of: "Strong man Obama is going to punish Russia by putting strong embargoes on Russian vodka....That'll teach Putin a lesson!"?
Why don't posters on Democratic forums support Obama better?