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Arthur is still undefeated
Trebek was a real pig tonight.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)What did Trebek do? Is there any way to see these Jeopardy episodes online?
kentuck
(111,102 posts)He pronounced it "Frances McDarmand".
malaise
(269,049 posts)11 days and counting - over $200,000
kentuck
(111,102 posts)Alex corrected his pronunciation of "Jerry" to which Arthur said "gerrymandered"...
malaise
(269,049 posts)Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)Elbridge Gerry pronounced his name with a hard G.
kentuck
(111,102 posts)Alex explained that it was one of the exceptions they came across from time to time.
Arthur is controversial because he knows how to play the game. He goes immediately to the largest category looking for the Double Jeopardy and usually gets most of them. He also bets the limit when he hits them and usually gets them correct. He then proceeds to wipe out the largest categories so that the remaining squares do not have enough value to catch up to him. He has a system and it is working very well for him.
malaise
(269,049 posts)Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
Arthur is so typical of his generation. but he is super smart and knows stuff about so many different areas.
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)He's using probability and math stuff.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)malaise
(269,049 posts)He sounded like he wanted to jump and celebrate.
Well done Arthur - #3 of all time.
malaise
(269,049 posts)Jenoch
(7,720 posts)malaise
(269,049 posts)When I miss the 7.30pm I watch on a West Coast channel. Nice to know I can also find it on Youtube.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)I missed last nights too.
Brother Buzz
(36,444 posts)It's no fun playing Jeopardy laterally, my mind doesn't shift fast enough.
malaise
(269,049 posts)to jump all over looking for the doubles for years. Arthur is just doing what several others have done long before him.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)moving around seeming to look for the Daily Doubles. I wonder if they saw one of Arthur's games while they were there for the production of one of their episodes? (I would say 'taping', but video tape is not used anymore, and film hasn't been used for anything video production in about two decades.)
Brother Buzz
(36,444 posts)Like he's trying to rattle his opponents a bit; he can change gears fast.
malaise
(269,049 posts)but he's hardly the first Jeopardy player to do that.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)this guy is just the latest one of that crowd.
My advice: understand that and move on...
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)With Authur playing you have to focus a lot more but it's not that bad.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)knowing a lot about a lot of things and seldom answering unless he knows the answer.
malaise
(269,049 posts)but I don't really like gamesmanship although that is life today - it's all about the winner. I hate the 'guessers'.
He's going to hit the mainstream media any day now. Hope he can handle it.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)I haven't seen him since then, but can imagine Trebeck getting upset at him which is too bad.
malaise
(269,049 posts)and really went after him for a minor mispronunciation. Arthur then exaggerated pronunciation. I swear he's dying to see the back of Arthur. It's hilarious to watch.
My mom would have popped a blood vessel. I can see your dad being upset.
CatWoman
(79,302 posts)which made me cheer him on ever more
http://www.npr.org/blogs/codeswitch/2014/02/21/280749689/asian-american-contestant-villain-of-jeopardy-set-to-return
malaise
(269,049 posts)Now just wait for the RW media.
Thanks for this CatWoman - the tweets are must read
From your link
If there are any unwritten rules to playing Jeopardy! Arthur Chu may have broken them all.
During his four-day winning streak in late January, he sometimes interrupted host Alex Trebek and cut in before the host could finish a sentence. He often jumped to the hardest clues on the board first and furiously tapped his buzzer whenever he knew the answer.
The Jeopardy! contestant is set to return to the show on Monday, after making headlines and causing a frenzy on social media for his aggressive playing style and use of game theory.
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Drive them crazy Arthur.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)and I did not see questions with either Gerry/Jerry or Francis McDormand. What am I missing? Does anybody remember the categiries for those questions? By the way, his total after the episode I watched was $277,000+. is it possible this was yesterday's episode but not posted until today? By the way, Jeopardy was about composers and the answer was Sobdheim and Arthur got it wrong.
Edit...oh crap, never mind, I did just warch yesterday's episode.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)for complete episodes of old Jeopardy programs. I just found the one where Ken Jennings surpasses $2 million but I have not yet watched it.
malaise
(269,049 posts)Jenoch
(7,720 posts)I don't really get to see Jeopardy too often. It is run twice a day in my market, old episodes at 11:30a and the current season at 4:30p. I wish it was on at 6:30p. Sometimes I record them, but they stack up quickly if I don't watch them daily.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Every time he hits a double he should say whoooiiii!
VScott
(774 posts)Especially when no rules are being broken.
The object of the game is, and always has been to win.
It makes think of times when two combatants would engage in a street fight, and one of them would break out their martial arts training and lay the other person out cold.
"Yeah... but he cheated. He used karate"!
"Yeah, so? You're (or your buddy), still the one laying on the ground and missing a few teeth".
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)And the winner didn't even need to bet to win, but they still had the last answer question. Even if the second place person bet all their winnings, they still couldn't beat guy number 1 before the question.
malaise
(269,049 posts)He has had more than double the other players' individual scores before the final question. He's just blown them away and Trebek can't take it.
rurallib
(62,423 posts)almost unable to beep in or often unsure (maybe surprised) when they do get to answer. His method of playing seems to just unhinge his opponents.
There was a big galoot of a guy who played just like Arthur 2 or 3 years back, only he wasn't quite as hyper as Arthur. I am sure he'll be in the tourney since he won @ $250,000.
sometimes those opponents have a deer in the headlights look, especially in the second round where Arthur really dominates.
malaise
(269,049 posts)I feel sorry for the opponents.
This has been going on for ages, but it's not often these aggressive players last this long. I'm trying to remember that guy's name.
Alex better watch his heart.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)At this point the judges run the show. But he does have to sort through the cards.
malaise
(269,049 posts)joshcryer
(62,276 posts)joshcryer
(62,276 posts)And won't be the last to play his style, not by a long shot.
ejpoeta
(8,933 posts)and then on to the championships.
marshall
(6,665 posts)Players were allowed to ring in for an answer as soon as they read the question, without having to wait for an ego driven host who loves the sound of his own voice to stop flapping his gums.
malaise
(269,049 posts)Does that date me -hahahahaha?
I've been watching Jeopardy for decades. Now my nieces and nephews watch because that was the only half hour I demanded for me.
rurallib
(62,423 posts)I am old enough to have watched many a Fleming Jeopardy.
It was so quaint - the prize money were dollars in increments of $10 first round, $20 the second round. The panels were the old mechanical panels that flipped with a thud.
Fleming had a trivia show on the radio on KMOX in St. Louis every Sunday night up until he died I think. If the stars were aligned I could sometimes get it pretty clear.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)don't see that on either side of the board are red lighted tubes. One can buzz in only when the red lights go off.
Jeopardy, '92.
marshall
(6,665 posts)Before that rule, the player who read and processed the question the fastest had an advantage. Now the player with the fastest trigger finger has the advantage--watch the light and/or wait for Trebek to stop yammering, then press the button. If you press too soon you're locked out for several seconds from pressing again, which is why you see players frantically and repeatedly pressing it like the button for a slow elevator.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)I still have a letter from 1971 (Art Fleming days) for me to go to NYC for an audition round. So I'm aware of the show's history.
Your post strongly suggested that the current rules and/or technology are due to the change in HOST and that host's "EGO," which I strongly doubt.
lapislzi
(5,762 posts)I honor you, WinkyDink!
I have my 1999 letter, too, and my photo (in horrible 1990s eyeglasses) in the lucite "Jeopardy!" frame.
Good times!
lapislzi
(5,762 posts)I can honestly say I had a total blast. I was lucky in that I "got" the scoring button early in the game and was able to buzz in quickly and accurately.
I feel the pain of the grimacing frustration on the faces of the players that have trouble with the buzzer.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)player has the same chance to buzz in.
Jeopardy, '92.
Swede Atlanta
(3,596 posts)I am really pulling for someone to defeat Arthur. There is something about him that is like fingernails on a chalkboard. I can't put my finger on it but there is something.
And for those of you who would say it was his race it isn't. It isn't even the fact the flips around on the board in search of the Daily Doubles. It is just something that tells me the time for him to be defeated and go off with his money has come.
malaise
(269,049 posts)joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Historically daily doubles are in the higher prize rows, so he picks at random.
Generally people choose the lower prize categories, run the gamut, and it gets finished.
He plays randomly to confuse the other players. It's probably 40% of his strategy since as far as I've seen he's lost 50%+ of his bets.
LibertyLover
(4,788 posts)and it's not his race - my daughter is from Hubei province in China. In all honesty, I think it's because he looks a bit like Kim Jong Il.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)First time in awhile. Had to load 40 gallons of water from the store, took way longer than I thought due to lines and I kept letting people with small jugs in front of me.
Phentex
(16,334 posts)Sometimes they really call out a mispronunciation and other times they just let it go. I can see if the contestant is asked to spell the response or even if the mispronunciation drastically changes the name: like saying Joel for Joe. But we have noticed plenty of times where the name or word is mispronounced and the judges rule it ok.
malaise
(269,049 posts)He clearly does not like Arthur.
Truthfully I wish all contestants would not be allowed to skip all over the board but they have never been prevented from doing this so I don't understand why people are angry with someone who has simply perfected that approach.
At the end of the day Arthur will have won all his college money and truth be told - he really is knowledgeable. I'd never have thought of using game theory for Jeopardy but the robber bankers use it all the time so why not Arthur.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)And I'm sure it does other players, but that's the rules of the game, so I can't say I think he's cheating or wrong. He's doing really well playing off tack. I'm sure it requires him to get things right too. Categories sort of feed into the way answers are going, so by skipping ahead he's losing out on that information.
In the end I like it. I wish Arthur the best of luck.
lapislzi
(5,762 posts)They will stop the tape and quibble for about 15 minutes about some bit of minutiae. It happened to me (I got the credit). But I agree that it can seem completely arbitrary.
malaise
(269,049 posts)<snip>
As of Monday night, Arthur Chu has won more Jeopardy! games than nearly anyone else on earth. Only two people have surpassed his ten victories, and Chu has amassed more than two hundred and seventy-seven thousand dollars in winnings. When Chu, an aspiring voiceover artist from Ohio, first found out that he had made it onto Jeopardy!, he went home, searched online for Jeopardy strategies, and spent a month internalizing what he learned. He prepared mentally, but not physically: when he appeared onstage in Culver City for his first episode, taped in November, 2013, his clothing was rumpled and he was somewhat out of shape, a pair of squarish glasses perched on his round cheeks. Chu discussed his voiceover-acting ambitions with Trebek. Ive only done it freelance so far, he said. Trebek responded, You have a good, solid, deep voice. Good luck in that career.
Some viewers took to Twitter to cheer him on, but others started to slam him for all sorts of reasons, from his aggressive game play to his wrinkled shirt. The previous year, Chu and his wife, Eliza Blair, had noticed that a participant in the Jeopardy! College Tournament of Champions had announced on Twitter that she would retweet criticisms as a way to shame the trolls for their bad attitude. Now Blair did the same, promptly retweeting comments like, I wanna slap this Asian dude on Jeopardy. Chu, in turn, felt goaded into responding in real-time, he recalled later. He has a dry sense of humor. This guy on Jeopardy sucks at life, one person wrote; Chu replied, Cant argue with that. He won the game.
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As of Monday night, Arthur Chu has won more Jeopardy! games than nearly anyone else on earth. Only two people have surpassed his ten victories, and Chu has amassed more than two hundred and seventy-seven thousand dollars in winnings. When Chu, an aspiring voiceover artist from Ohio, first found out that he had made it onto Jeopardy!, he went home, searched online for Jeopardy strategies, and spent a month internalizing what he learned. He prepared mentally, but not physically: when he appeared onstage in Culver City for his first episode, taped in November, 2013, his clothing was rumpled and he was somewhat out of shape, a pair of squarish glasses perched on his round cheeks. Chu discussed his voiceover-acting ambitions with Trebek. Ive only done it freelance so far, he said. Trebek responded, You have a good, solid, deep voice. Good luck in that career.
Chus first episode aired on January 28th. He decided to live-tweet the show so that he could host a virtual viewing party. Chus first tweet of the episode was self-deprecating: Wow my face is smug. Soon he warmed up and began giving color commentary on his performance. Chu used a method called the Forrest Bounce, named after its pioneer, the 1985 champion Chuck Forrest: rather than starting with the first clue in a category and working his way down the column, he jumped around the board. (It taxes peoples brains to move around like this, but the person who knows which clue is coming next has a split-second advantage.) Chu also targeted the bottom three-fifths of the board first, where most Daily Doubles are locateda tactic borrowed from Watson, the I.B.M. computer programmed to play Jeopardy. Most important, he was fast: as soon as Trebek finished reading a clue, he repeatedly mashed the buzzer button, while turning and staring at his competitors.
Some viewers took to Twitter to cheer him on, but others started to slam him for all sorts of reasons, from his aggressive game play to his wrinkled shirt. The previous year, Chu and his wife, Eliza Blair, had noticed that a participant in the Jeopardy! College Tournament of Champions had announced on Twitter that she would retweet criticisms as a way to shame the trolls for their bad attitude. Now Blair did the same, promptly retweeting comments like, I wanna slap this Asian dude on Jeopardy. Chu, in turn, felt goaded into responding in real-time, he recalled later. He has a dry sense of humor. This guy on Jeopardy sucks at life, one person wrote; Chu replied, Cant argue with that. He won the game.
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There are lots of articles about Chu at Google
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)malaise
(269,049 posts)I'm betting that Trebek will soon retire - he can't handle this generation of 'winner takes all'. I don't blame Arthur at all - he's playing by the rules. Trebek et al should have seen this coming.
lapislzi
(5,762 posts)He gets paid either way, although he does get antsy if the contestants don't give him good banter material. I was warned about this. It's one of the criteria they use to "choose" you for a given episode. They have fluffers in the green room to keep your energy level up. (No, not that kind, you DU pervs)
While I don't blame Arthur either, it feels somewhat unsporting, like one of Dick Cheney's canned quail hunts.
chrisa
(4,524 posts)I hate when it's the same person over multiple weeks. It ruins the show.
Alex Trebek is always a douche. It's his personality.
lapislzi
(5,762 posts)Time to retire and bring on someone with a little more energy. But I think the show needs to be wary of bringing someone on board who lacks any gravitas. Because, after all, Jeopardy is supposed to be the show for smart people. There's so little left for us in this world.
LostOne4Ever
(9,289 posts)I was hoping for a ken jennings like winning streak.
malaise
(269,049 posts)Lost on a Daily Double and went back to zero.
http://www.cleveland.com/tipoff/index.ssf/2014/03/arthur_chus_jeopardy_ride_ends.html
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)LostOne4Ever
(9,289 posts)Didn't mean to spoil it for you.
Thought posting it here would avoid that problem
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)LibertyLover
(4,788 posts)He had $6400 going into Final Jeopardy, the layer with the least amount of money, bet it all and got the answer wrong. The question was who was the last male monarch in England not to be Prince of Wales. The answer of course is George VI. Chu answered George II and lost everything. The two women players did exactly what he had been doing with questions - going for the highest amounts first and the one, Julie, got two of the Daily Doubles. Alex mentioned that Chu had been a guide in DC when he lived there and asked him what the most visited site was. Chu's response: there's no money at stake so I'm not going to answer. My daughter who was adopted from China thought Chu was "creepy".