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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 05:59 AM Mar 2014

Ferrari and Yacht Dealers Rejoice! Wall Street Hands Out Even More Obscene Bonuses Than Last Year`

http://www.alternet.org/ferrari-and-yacht-dealers-rejoice-wall-street-hands-out-even-more-obscene-bonuses-last-year



Purveyors of Ferraris and high-end Swiss watches keep their fingers crossed toward the end of each calendar year, hoping that the big Wall Street banks will be generous with their annual cash bonuses.

New figures show that the bonus bonanza of 2013 didn’t disappoint. According to the New York State Comptroller’s office, Wall Street firms handed out $26.7 billion in bonuses to their 165,200 employees last year, up 15 percent over the previous year. That’s their third-largest haul on record.

That money will no doubt boost sales of luxury goods. Just imagine how much greater the economic benefit would be if that same amount of money had gone into the pockets of minimum-wage workers.

The $26.7 billion Wall Streeters pocketed in bonuses would cover the cost of more than doubling the paychecks for all of the 1,085,000 Americans who work full-time at the current federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour.
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Ferrari and Yacht Dealers Rejoice! Wall Street Hands Out Even More Obscene Bonuses Than Last Year` (Original Post) xchrom Mar 2014 OP
This has a "Come and get me if you can." flavor to it... Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #1
Otherwords wrote this story first. Ichingcarpenter Mar 2014 #2
+1 xchrom Mar 2014 #3
Better cut food stamps again, eh, so children are motivated to become hedge fund managers? Scuba Mar 2014 #4
How would that work? NashuaDW Mar 2014 #5
I dont' know what sort of bonus you earn el_bryanto Mar 2014 #8
But we all know Ferraris beget Corollas for the little people jsr Mar 2014 #6
Pithy ... NashuaDW Mar 2014 #9
No, many of them should be in jail. jsr Mar 2014 #10
It's because their profits are up, sales are up. The 1% has to spend their money somewhere kelliekat44 Mar 2014 #7

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
1. This has a "Come and get me if you can." flavor to it...
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 06:14 AM
Mar 2014

which, if you think about it, has "stop me before I kill again" aspects.

Ya know, our old 'noblesse oblige' class dressed humbly for a reason.

Think hard....consent of the....

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
2. Otherwords wrote this story first.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 06:35 AM
Mar 2014

Since some don't understand how alternet works.


Otherwords is a great liberal site.


http://otherwords.org/wall-street-bonuses-vs-minimum-wage/

Anyway kick and nominate


BTW Bill Moyers' site has this story too.

NashuaDW

(90 posts)
5. How would that work?
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:50 AM
Mar 2014

Can you explain how you can equate a private company giving bonuses to productive employees to several thousand independent business paying minimum wage?

Isn't it safe to assume that each of those employees getting a bonus met their employer's goals and earned their bonus? I know I have a set of goals that I have to meet to get my quarterly and annual bonuses.

Besides the logistics, how would you tell someone (like me) that even though I earned my bonus it's going to be redirected to give a minimum wage worker a raise?

What would that do for my motivation next year once my bonus has confiscated?

As most bonuses are performance-based, confusing any company's bonus plan with giving a group of other employees a pay raise makes for great rhetoric but fails the common-sense test.

Also, let's not overlook the fact that the state will collect taxes at a higher rate than ordinary income on those bonuses. I know I get killed with the tax rate on my bonuses.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
8. I dont' know what sort of bonus you earn
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:58 AM
Mar 2014

But Wall Street's culture is fundamentally broken, as witnessed by the 2008 crisis in financial instruments they had invented and sold without fully understanding. Wall Street hasn't learned anything from that experience by all accounts, and continues to operate largely outside serious regulation, and reap big bonuses for leading the economy in risky and unsound ways.

I don't think the mechanics of getting a hold on bonuses and increasing the minimum wage works; but we could tax these outsized bonuses at a higher rate and use the money to rebuild our troubled infrastructure which would put a lot of people to work.

Bryant

NashuaDW

(90 posts)
9. Pithy ...
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 11:01 AM
Mar 2014

Your sarcasm is cute but let's look at what happens when someone get a large bonus and spends it on a Ferrari :

They pay a huge amount of tax on the bonus
They pay sales tax and registration tax on the car
They provide income for the Ferrari dealer and all of its employees
They provide the commission for the salesperson
They help guarantee a job for the Ferrari mechanic
They help pay the car insurance salesman's salary
If they invest the money it help budding businesses have access to capital
If they save it the banks can loan it to families

and finally, they pay a lot of money in speeding tickets

I think the general attitude here, and a lot of other places, is that these bonuses are not earned or deserved. The people that get the bonuses are, typically, hard working people that produce for their employer.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
7. It's because their profits are up, sales are up. The 1% has to spend their money somewhere
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:56 AM
Mar 2014

and they choose to spend it on items not made by US citizens for fear of giving them jobs.

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