is opposing" types

I mean, people ask "why is CNN any more reliable than the Russian government?"

Mind-blowing.

is that people actually think CNN is any better than RT when it comes to nationalist propaganda.

CNN is a crap channel, but rt.com isn't a news network, it's the government.

The fact that CNN is privately owned does not make it any less of a propaganda outlet.

CNN is certainly imperfect, but its explicit purpose is not to help Barack Obama at all costs.

Abby Martin spoke out against Russian military intervention on her show. She still has her job. That's more than can be said for journalists who dared to speak out against the Iraq war on mainstream US news outlets.

what would it say about US news outlets that won't even allow "managed dissent" on the topic of foreign policy?

get no attention on CNN, Fox, MSNBC etc?

from engaging in a war of conquest against another country.

Do you know of anyone who thinks we should rubber stamp Moscow's actions?

And like military intervention, it hurts the working class much more than it hurts the ruling class.

Also, Putin has shown no indication that he wants a war with Ukraine. He's just trying to protect Russian interests. Again, I'm completely against him using military intervention to protect those interests, but having the US get involved (more than it already has) isn't going to help anyone.

the oligarchs?

I'm just not sure how they would go about doing that.

seize their bank accounts, stock holdings, etc

won't just try to make up the difference by exploiting their workers even more, then I'd say go for it.

I mean, coherent, argumentative, apparently rational people. I simply refuse to believe it. I choose to believe that they know the holes in their argument and know it's wrong but simply won't let it go or admit they are wrong because of internet anonymity.

Real reason so many Republicans said Obama is a foreigner is they can't bring themselves to admit that any bad thing said about him is untrue.

talkin' to a brickwall, geek.

mistaken if this is over after Russia annexes Crimea.

That's when the real pain for it begins, in terms of economic and diplomatic sanctions.

It will be a quagmire that will last years.

Eventually Crimea will leave Russia, like all Russian occupied territories.

They are pushing out more propaganda than a normal person can keep up with (and it's not even close to being truthful)! Kind of reminds me of Baghdad Bob.

Who had the fucking nerve to say that? And if they did it with a straight face (pun intended), be very careful of them.

It's starting to reek of desperation. I can't help but wonder where their emotional investment comes from.

getting their marching orders from someplace.

are attacking the belligerent John Kerry for advocating diplomacy.

Putin's illegal invasion is justified they say.

ground and help him then. Look the Ukrainians in the face instead of hiding behind their social devices.


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Uncalled for and the work of dirty people.

I was alerted on for saying to someone "he haz a sad". Seriously? I did not get a hide as Whisp did. Yet WTF is going on here!

wanted to say that I've been on more than a few juries lately that we were all asking " IS Up with the alerter?". Little whiny thin skinnies. One in particular .. someone on the jury had predicted a 6-0 Leave Alone.. and they were right.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Mar 10, 2014, 08:58 PM, and the Jury voted 0-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The alerter needs to not bring the jury into a "difference of opinion" dust up. The post as is.. is okay.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This will be 0-6.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The alerter is advised to get a life.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I don't see anything uncivil about that comment.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Judging this post only...I see no reason to hide.

Thanks Cha, you made me smile, even though I don't feel like it.

Thanks~

I like it when it's done for me.

these folks to take over DU because there's a strong anti-American presence here. It's run a few folks off.

It's out of control! Completely out of control!

bad mushrooms.

hide or not hide posts, and their reasoning isn't within DU guidelines they need to be kicked off jury duty. I think there's a need for 7 jury members, but that isn't the real issue.

States as being the power behind everything bad that happens in the world. these people are ignorant of the world outside .

quite frankly, a bit frightening & fringey!

Don't be a wingnut (right-wing or extreme-fringe).

Democratic Underground is an online community for politically liberal people who understand the importance of working within the system to elect more Democrats and fewer Republicans to all levels of political office. Teabaggers, Neo-cons, Dittoheads, Paulites, Freepers, Birthers, and right-wingers in general are not welcome here. Neither are certain extreme-fringe left-wingers, including advocates of violent political/social change, hard-line communists, terrorist-apologists, America-haters, kooks, crackpots, LaRouchies, and the like.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=termsofservice

total CT. I think many of the people we're talking about have been here a while and they're serving on the juries. I hope Skinner takes this seriously, it's ruining the site. But for all we know Skinner agrees with them. I have to wonder why he isn't monitoring things more.

brings out the crazies. Most of the crap gets it's start over at NorquistDogLake, and spreads out from there, and you're right, it's ruining the site.

I'm shocked at the support for Putin and for RT it's an extension of Putin. Those same people poo-poo our media as being biased. Wuuuuutttt? It makes me dizzy.

My head spins too.

They make the top of the page daily. I am shocked.

When many of us were protesting and making waves about the horrible anti-gay laws passed recently in Russia, many of the same people were posting RT crap that actually defending the law. "So what if he cut off one of your hands? You have two, right?!" I also find it strange that the same ones who screech about "corporate controlled media, mouthpieces of DC," have no issue with state run media sources!

boycotting of the Olympics and bringing up the human rights issues are causing more human rights abuse. The other one that I frequently hear is that we should mind our own business. I think you know specifically who I'm talking about without naming names.

Has quite the following too.

are just USING that for your own benefit and are just as bad!

try to figure that one out.

They are a sensitive bunch, aren't they?

it's a fucking joke.

but not surprised after seeing the holocaust denial allowed to stand.

they can muster. But, let anyone say anything about their snowjob or greenwad gods-Oooops and it must be swept under the rug.

They might come after you next.

but, I don't have a perfect record.

on Prosense. I alerted one doing the same old lame tired stupid BS about her being a paid shill and one of the leave it alones just typed "shrug."

The hypocrisy from folks around here is astonishing. I have a few fans that absolutely refuse to leave me alone no matter how many times I request it. And yet, someone told me that demanding that I stop being stalked was ME being the "nasty" one. And these same folks turn miraculously deaf, dumb and mute when one of their friends does the same thing.

I hear the Looney Toons theme song every time I see a post from that person. Words cannot describe how "special" that person is. But in spite of that, I don't have a problem with her asking someone to leave her alone and think anyone that would refuse to do so is even more "special" than she is.

i have to laugh at that "special one".i think i have seen a few others ask her to leave them alone also. mostly because responses never really have anything to do with what is being discussed. they just bring up some random crap from somewhere else .

and in about the third sentence my head flops down on the keyboard and hits the zzzzzZZZZZzzzzz key. Then my dog has to wake me up: Baba, time to go upstairs, no?

I've seen some horrible stuff written about prosense that stands. It's also pretty much the same people defending the holocaust denial. Good thing prosense seems like one tough person who knows how to consider the source of those attacks and lets them roll away.

Then, I found: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024661448

It seems it never ends. They are also the same people that claim to care about anti-Semitism, when convenient to their cause.

how long the denier was allowed to post here before the administrators saw the light.

I'm not usually inclined to hide things unless there is a blatant attack on another member.
This doesn't rise even close to that level, even if I don't agree with Whisp most of the time.
It's called an opinion, and I can live with ones I don't agree with.

I see nothing offensive about it. If I'd been on that jury I would have told the alerter to "take a hike".

What an awful hide.

Obama get's shat upon daily at this allegedly Democratic website.

But for damn sure, don't mock or deride a libertarian opinion writer or his fugitive "source".



Sid

And yes~

There's more to international relations than Snowden and the NSA.

Watching the 5 or 6 people that always cry about this place is so amusing, especially when they don't get their way and pretend it is DUs fault. Then to watch them call out Skinner...

Tasteless but totally expected.

It's 5-6 at any given time, but there's a larger group that rotates in/out

at least back in the day it was just the people who couldn't bear being oppressed by the 'unrec' button

Such hatred for President Obama..
Such hatred for the Democratic Party...
Such hatred for the United States...

That they cheer when a foreign country which did nothing but to throw off a corrupt dictator is invaded - because America is against it.

It's a sad, dark, sick, place these people are living in.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

Thank you for saying this. I totally agree with you.

ignorance.

The behavior is too troll-like for that.

our government engages in. Then they have the gall to tell those of us who criticize military intervention that we "hate America."

It's that old "you're either with us or against us" mentality, and THAT is a sad, dark, sick place to be living in.

That includes Russian intervention in Crimea.

This has been my issue with the whole Crimea situation from the beginning.
There was no legal justification for the Russians to leave their bases in the first place.
There were no 'Russian citizens' to protect.
This is a naked annexation of the Crimea.

nt.

while I'm showering.

nasty business