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alp227

(32,027 posts)
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 03:47 PM Mar 2014

Bill Gates: ‘No admiration’ for Edward Snowden

Microsoft founder Bill Gates says despite his concerns about privacy, he has no “admiration” for National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden.

In an interview published Thursday by Rolling Stone, Gates was discussing the privacy implications of cloud computing and the wealth of information available.

“I actually wish we were having more intense debates about these things,” Gates said.

The interviewer suggested that debate has intensified “thanks” to Snowden, and asked Gates to weigh in on the hero-or-traitor debate.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/robert-gates-edward-snowden-104641.html

Rolling Stone interview: http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/bill-gates-the-rolling-stone-interview-20140313?print=true

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Bill Gates: ‘No admiration’ for Edward Snowden (Original Post) alp227 Mar 2014 OP
Probably because Snowden helped expose Bill Gates, along with many others. Shoulders of Giants Mar 2014 #1
Creepy homunculus elitist has no admiration whatchamacallit Mar 2014 #2
Well color me surprised Autumn Mar 2014 #3
No kidding. Bill Gates in elitism shocker LittleBlue Mar 2014 #10
Ironic, considering their commonality: 1000words Mar 2014 #4
Apple cofounder Steve Wozniak: Snowden ‘had the guts and courage to sacrifice his life’ jakeXT Mar 2014 #5
Wozniak = Great Guy! Jobs = Asshole. n-t Logical Mar 2014 #8
I've never had any admiration.. sendero Mar 2014 #6
Why don't you like Bill Gates? lumpy Mar 2014 #7
Pretty much anyone who has tried used his operating systems LittleBlue Mar 2014 #11
MS-DOS was not even his. PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #12
LOL, jealous much? nt Logical Mar 2014 #9
Envy can turn into hate lumpy Mar 2014 #13
Good point! n-t Logical Mar 2014 #15
Right, because everybody that hates Bill Gates MUST be doing so out of jealousy Downtown Hound Mar 2014 #17
Read the article. Gates point was that Snowden could have chosen other paths to expose bluestate10 Mar 2014 #14
Indeed Snowden could have chosen other paths; and there are other paths available. lumpy Mar 2014 #16
Or maybe he's just mad because Snowden actually took a stand against the NSA whereas Downtown Hound Mar 2014 #18
Who cares? Bill Gates' position on this is no more important than any other private citizen's. Marr Mar 2014 #19
"This success is the result of the FBI working for many months with Microsoft" jsr Mar 2014 #20
AKA "Why would anyone steal something and just give it away?" Tom Ripley Mar 2014 #21
He actually said he didn't have "much" admiration but that wasn't sexy enough for Politico, I guess Number23 Mar 2014 #22
kick functioning_cog Mar 2014 #23

sendero

(28,552 posts)
6. I've never had any admiration..
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 04:35 PM
Mar 2014

... for Bill Gates. And his opinion is worth a bucket of warm spit IMHO.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
11. Pretty much anyone who has tried used his operating systems
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 05:31 PM
Mar 2014

has hated him at one time or another.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
17. Right, because everybody that hates Bill Gates MUST be doing so out of jealousy
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 11:14 PM
Mar 2014


It's not like Bill Gates helped turn what was once a competitive and highly innovative industry into a monopolistic empire of his by bankrupting his rivals with frivolous lawsuits and producing crappy operating systems. No, everyone who hates Bill Gates is just jealous.

God, the hero worship some people have of assholes just because they make lots of money never ceases to amaze me.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
14. Read the article. Gates point was that Snowden could have chosen other paths to expose
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 05:45 PM
Mar 2014

NSA wrongdoing, but Snowden chose to violate law and released information that likely has resulted in people dying. Gate was clear that a vigorous debate must be had vis a vis security versus privacy, with baseline requirements being set in place to protect privacy.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
18. Or maybe he's just mad because Snowden actually took a stand against the NSA whereas
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 11:16 PM
Mar 2014

Bill just shut his mouth and played along, all the while collecting his billions.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
19. Who cares? Bill Gates' position on this is no more important than any other private citizen's.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 11:19 PM
Mar 2014

It's odd how so many people in our society seem to equate great wealth with superior reasoning, intellect, moral judgement, etc.

jsr

(7,712 posts)
20. "This success is the result of the FBI working for many months with Microsoft"
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 11:23 PM
Mar 2014
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/11/microsoft-nsa-collaboration-user-data

Another newsletter entry stated that NSA already had pre-encryption access to Outlook email. "For Prism collection against Hotmail, Live, and Outlook.com emails will be unaffected because Prism collects this data prior to encryption."

Microsoft's co-operation was not limited to Outlook.com. An entry dated 8 April 2013 describes how the company worked "for many months" with the FBI – which acts as the liaison between the intelligence agencies and Silicon Valley on Prism – to allow Prism access without separate authorization to its cloud storage service SkyDrive.

The document describes how this access "means that analysts will no longer have to make a special request to SSO for this – a process step that many analysts may not have known about".

The NSA explained that "this new capability will result in a much more complete and timely collection response". It continued: "This success is the result of the FBI working for many months with Microsoft to get this tasking and collection solution established."

Number23

(24,544 posts)
22. He actually said he didn't have "much" admiration but that wasn't sexy enough for Politico, I guess
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 02:00 AM
Mar 2014
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