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(47,486 posts)
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 04:09 PM Mar 2014

Target blasted for Photoshop fail (Thigh Gap)

Target has drawn sharp criticism from national media and across the blogosphere for a Photoshop fail that has gone viral. In an online ad for junior swimwear, a photo of an already-thin juvenile model wearing a bikini has been carved and sliced to create an extremely unnatural-looking “thigh gap” and skeletal arms.

“Thigh gap” is a space between the legs at the top of the thighs that only exists on very thin people, and it has become a concern among eating-disorder experts because trying to achieve it has become a fad among some teen girls.

After websites including the Huffington Post, Jezebel and BuzzFeed cried foul, Target removed the image from its website and apologized, calling it an “unfortunate error.”

The apparent attempt to trim flesh was so crude that some bloggers speculated that whoever did it was being subversive in protest of this common fashion-industry practice.

http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/style/249862041.html










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Target blasted for Photoshop fail (Thigh Gap) (Original Post) question everything Mar 2014 OP
the arms look alienish uppityperson Mar 2014 #1
+1 krawhitham Mar 2014 #22
Now that you mention it customerserviceguy Mar 2014 #32
Can they do that for me? pinboy3niner Mar 2014 #2
This Photoshop job is so obvious, I think it must be intentional. lob1 Mar 2014 #3
Why would they intentionally slice a notch into her crotch? I don't think that was on purpose. n/t pnwmom Mar 2014 #30
To create a "thigh gap" - skinny legs question everything Mar 2014 #33
This was the work of either a lazy production artist ... 1000words Mar 2014 #37
As a Photoshop Specialist, yes, this is really really Bad fascisthunter Mar 2014 #4
Yup ... total hack. 1000words Mar 2014 #5
No, it's not Warpy Mar 2014 #6
Notice the Notch in the hip area... bad clipping job there fascisthunter Mar 2014 #7
The whole thing is ridiculously sloppy Warpy Mar 2014 #9
Let me guess: 1000words Mar 2014 #10
Yeah, sounds about right! fascisthunter Mar 2014 #11
As should anyone who has any pride in their work 1000words Mar 2014 #12
They hired this lady Generic Other Mar 2014 #16
Cheap ... GeorgeGist Mar 2014 #8
Why Photoshop "Fashion" photography at all??? hunter Mar 2014 #13
One has to wonder question everything Mar 2014 #17
Just about all of it, expensive magazines to newspaper inserts. hunter Mar 2014 #23
About as much as was tweaked using chemical photography Warpy Mar 2014 #31
I can understand trying to remove a mole, or a shadow question everything Mar 2014 #41
They think it's cheaper than hiring the models they really want jmowreader Mar 2014 #25
What's "Looks good?" That's the trouble... hunter Mar 2014 #29
+1 LisaLynne Mar 2014 #39
Besides the thigh gap, her face appears darker than the rest of her body MagickMuffin Mar 2014 #14
They probably lightened her body skin Scootaloo Mar 2014 #28
That is a horrible photoshop...what did the CEOs kid make it? Rex Mar 2014 #15
Maybe she had major camel toe? Eom Redford Mar 2014 #18
What's this 'thigh gap' shit? Why does anyone care? chrisa Mar 2014 #19
Skinny legs that young girls care question everything Mar 2014 #34
So it's bow-leggedness? chrisa Mar 2014 #38
really bad photo shop. skinny girl wasn't skinny enough for Target ad Liberal_in_LA Mar 2014 #20
Thigh gap? 'Scuse me, that is a crotch that has been excised. Hekate Mar 2014 #21
The goal is to create a "thigh gap" Scootaloo Mar 2014 #26
And Lululemon CEO question everything Mar 2014 #36
She appears to be missing some of her hip in the right side as well. herding cats Mar 2014 #24
why are her arms different sizes? Skittles Mar 2014 #27
Because they wanted to make them even skinnier question everything Mar 2014 #35
Is this meant to be a protest against FGM? N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2014 #40

lob1

(3,820 posts)
3. This Photoshop job is so obvious, I think it must be intentional.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 04:15 PM
Mar 2014

It'd be simple to clone away the bathing suit parts left on the legs.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
30. Why would they intentionally slice a notch into her crotch? I don't think that was on purpose. n/t
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 10:15 PM
Mar 2014

question everything

(47,486 posts)
33. To create a "thigh gap" - skinny legs
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 11:20 PM
Mar 2014

which, apparently, is a desirable trait by young teens. Perhaps even older ones.

Obviously they butchered it. I suspect that this model is a skinny one to begin with but I guess they could not leave well enough alone.


 

1000words

(7,051 posts)
37. This was the work of either a lazy production artist ...
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 11:46 PM
Mar 2014

or one with a limited understanding of the software.

I'm willing to bet most of the outline captures were done with the wand tool, with a overly strong threshold setting. If you notice, the path of the cut away area at her crotch, follows the fold of her underwear. A common occurrence when using that tool, given the background color of her underwear is the same as the true background area, between her legs. The software is having a difficult time distinguishing between the two, at that threshold setting.

 

1000words

(7,051 posts)
5. Yup ... total hack.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 04:22 PM
Mar 2014

Which compels me to believe this might not be a nefarious manipulation, as it is simple incompetence.

Warpy

(111,273 posts)
6. No, it's not
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 04:42 PM
Mar 2014

The underarm area and the arms themselves were botched.

The person who did this was either a subversive or a rank amateur who worked cheap but didn't know when to stop.

 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
7. Notice the Notch in the hip area... bad clipping job there
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 04:44 PM
Mar 2014

Actually, I don't think it was clipped, rather erased with the eraser tool by hand... sloppy.

Warpy

(111,273 posts)
9. The whole thing is ridiculously sloppy
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 04:51 PM
Mar 2014

Look at the arms, the shoulders bulked up and made almost pointy, the arms extended out from the thinned body, a gap in one armpit almost as clumsy as the one at the crotch.

My eyesight is shit but I can do better than that.

 

1000words

(7,051 posts)
12. As should anyone who has any pride in their work
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 05:42 PM
Mar 2014

A high-volume production environment helps create these abominations.

hunter

(38,317 posts)
13. Why Photoshop "Fashion" photography at all???
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 05:49 PM
Mar 2014

Seriously.

The models or celebrities (mostly women) almost always look like aliens.

hunter

(38,317 posts)
23. Just about all of it, expensive magazines to newspaper inserts.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 08:29 PM
Mar 2014

Before Photoshop it was airbrushes and other tricks.

The master film photographers relied on lighting, exposure, film and print chemistry to maximize desirable textures and minimize undesirable textures. Not many do that any more.

Annie Leibovitz is a famous celebrity photographer, look here how a Vogue cover of hers was 'shopped:

http://jezebel.com/here-are-the-unretouched-images-from-lena-dunhams-vogu-1503336657

Warpy

(111,273 posts)
31. About as much as was tweaked using chemical photography
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 10:28 PM
Mar 2014

When they first started, it was to remove a zit or mole, counteract bad lighting or the shadow of the gofer bringing in the sandwiches or other flaws that can mar any good picture.

Now they want to make them look like Barbie dolls and the result is universally grotesque even when they do it correctly.

Fashion photography is about perfection according to some arbitrary ideal. These days the ideal is an out of proportion plastic doll.

question everything

(47,486 posts)
41. I can understand trying to remove a mole, or a shadow
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 12:02 PM
Mar 2014

or smoothing makeup and wrinkles and spots, but carving into a model body?

Interestingly, when I searched about this concept, I found an article in Cosmopolitan, of all places, warning about "thigh gap," including this

True, when you search for “thigh gap” or “thinspo” on Tumblr, you get a pop-up ad for their eating disorder counseling page,

http://www.cosmopolitan.com/celebrity/news/stop-thigh-gap


jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
25. They think it's cheaper than hiring the models they really want
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 09:45 PM
Mar 2014

Everyone knows it's less expensive to hire a cheap model who can't pose and who doesn't look good, a photographer who can't shoot and a makeup artist who still thinks it's 1972 and keep them on set for days on end trying to get something that kinda resembles your product then spend double that on a Photoshop guy to attempt to repair the damage, than to hire good talent and put the pictures directly in the book.

hunter

(38,317 posts)
29. What's "Looks good?" That's the trouble...
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 10:12 PM
Mar 2014

They could get models of all shapes and sizes who are excellent at modeling, and good photographers, but advertisers want a "look" that isn't real.

Instead of actual people who actually model, and actual photographers who can actually take great photos of anyone, we get models (even in the top venues) who almost have the fantasy look who are then photoshopped into alien unreality and mediocre photographers who don't bother to "see" their models in the best light.

Models who don't have a fantasy shape don't get work. That's how it all goes wrong, that's how we get perfectly good looking people feeling insecure about themselves. And I guess that's the basic way our consumer society sells stuff, by convincing perfectly good looking people, which is most everyone, that they have to buy more stuff to make themselves feel better.

MagickMuffin

(15,943 posts)
14. Besides the thigh gap, her face appears darker than the rest of her body
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 05:55 PM
Mar 2014

Or so it seems that way to me. She looks like an AA, yet her body looks as though she has been at a tanning salon.



 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
28. They probably lightened her body skin
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 09:57 PM
Mar 2014

The face has a lot more angles and surfaces than say, the abdomen, so it's really easy to botch a recolor there, getting all the tones and variants right.

Given that they apparently used a nine-pixel pencil eraser tool to remove her labia from the universe, installed a folding ashtray on her hip, and transplanted the arm of a shaved tree sloth to her left side, I'm actually surprised they didn't try to mess with her face, honestly

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
15. That is a horrible photoshop...what did the CEOs kid make it?
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 05:57 PM
Mar 2014

Pathetic attempt at social engineering.

chrisa

(4,524 posts)
19. What's this 'thigh gap' shit? Why does anyone care?
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 08:10 PM
Mar 2014

Is this a new trend or something? Why would anyone care?

question everything

(47,486 posts)
34. Skinny legs that young girls care
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 11:34 PM
Mar 2014

In humans, a thigh gap is a gap between the thighs when standing upright with both knees touching.[1] Some women aspire to this for reasons of a perceived increase in attractiveness, with some considering it a sign of femininity and fragility[2] and some go as far as to say it symbolizes "the ideal body shape".[3] According to The Times of India, few women are able to form thigh gaps naturally and attempts to develop one typically involve unhealthy diets

he phrase and subject became a topic of widespread news coverage in December 2012 after the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show.[4][speculation?] As a result, hundreds of blogs, Twitter accounts and memes in the West were created,[1] and images of thigh gaps featured in "thinspiration" blogs.[5] and images of thigh gaps started appearing across social networking sites.[6] Reportedly, some teenage girls have taken the view that the bigger the gap, the more beautiful the girl[7] and have resorted to starving themselves in order to obtain it.[8]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thigh_gap

chrisa

(4,524 posts)
38. So it's bow-leggedness?
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 08:12 AM
Mar 2014

Most people don't have that naturally, and it's an odd thing to aspire for. It seems like we're always coming up with new ways to try and make teenage girls kill themselves.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
21. Thigh gap? 'Scuse me, that is a crotch that has been excised.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 08:18 PM
Mar 2014

Every closeup of that travesty I've seen over the past many days has shown this: in the photo her crotch/pudenda/feminine delta has been excised with an X-Acto Knife.

Ewwwwwwww.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
26. The goal is to create a "thigh gap"
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 09:54 PM
Mar 2014

Apparently a model isn't "attractive" (to advertisers) without the triangular (Or in this case, square) gap created below the crotch by a combination of wide hips and skinny thighs:

It has since apparently become fashionable - you can look up all sorts of way to fast and tone to create a breeze tunnel for your vulva.

Something to keep in mind next time someone claims fashion magazines and other advertising don't have any impact on body image

question everything

(47,486 posts)
36. And Lululemon CEO
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 11:37 PM
Mar 2014

Now that I recall, that CEO - that finally had to resign - claimed that not every woman can wear his hyper expensive crap, because their thighs rub against each other. The way most women's do.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
24. She appears to be missing some of her hip in the right side as well.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 08:43 PM
Mar 2014

That's just creepy. She looks like some misshapen freak with those stretched out arms and chopped up body parts.

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