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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 08:28 PM Mar 2014

Why The White House Hasn’t Released Photos Of Osama bin Laden’s Corpse

There are a lot of puzzled expressions on people’s faces when it comes to the subject of the late Osama Bin Laden and why the White House has not authorized the release of any pictures of the body. Photographs and video were released of Saddam Hussein’s hanging, as well as post-mortem pictures of his criminal sons, Uday and Qusay, after Delta Force took them out. Why not release a few pictures of Public Enemy #1 to prove that he is dead and show the world what happens when you take on the US of A?

Matt Bissonnette, one of the SEAL Team Six operators on the raid, partially outs the reason in his book, No Easy Day. The book reads, “In his death throes, he was still twitching and convulsing. Another assaulter and I trained our lasers on his chest and fired several rounds. The bullets tore into him, slamming his body into the floor until he was motionless” (No Easy Day, Chapter 15).

But this is perhaps the most measured and polite description that one could give of how operator after operator took turns dumping magazines-worth of ammunition into Bin Laden’s body, two confidential sources within the community have told us. When all was said and done, UBL had over a hundred bullets in him, by the most conservative estimate.

But was it illegal? Under the Laws of Land Warfare, a soldier is fully authorized to put a few insurance rounds into his target after he goes down. Provided the enemy is not surrendering, it is morally, legally, and ethically appropriate to shoot the body a few times to ensure that he is really dead and no longer a threat. However, what happened on the Bin Laden raid is beyond excessive. The level of excess shown was not about making sure that Bin Laden was no longer a threat. The excess was pure self-indulgence.

Read more: http://sofrep.com/33599/why-us-govt-hasnt-released-photos-ubl-corpse/#ixzz2w54mYYxj

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Why The White House Hasn’t Released Photos Of Osama bin Laden’s Corpse (Original Post) dipsydoodle Mar 2014 OP
Not sure I believe a word of it 1000words Mar 2014 #1
Can't say I'll lose any sleep over this fujiyama Mar 2014 #2
well, that's kind of sad. Bragging about it too. Even sadder. CBGLuthier Mar 2014 #5
Because he's not dead bigwillq Mar 2014 #3
He needed to be dead. jsr Mar 2014 #4
They really screwed the pooch on this one. William769 Mar 2014 #6
Oh well... SidDithers Mar 2014 #7
"...two confidential sources within the community have told us." cheapdate Mar 2014 #8
Really can't say I give a crap. Sorry. BlueStater Mar 2014 #9
I read that people in the Towers were leaping to their deaths the entire time until it collapsed Hekate Mar 2014 #29
They were. Archae Mar 2014 #37
What would pictures of a dead Bin laden prove? Nothing, there are still the doubters Thinkingabout Mar 2014 #10
People are still disputing the Jesse James death photos. nt bluestate10 Mar 2014 #28
Because he hijacked MH370. Geeze, guys, it's so freakin' obvious! randome Mar 2014 #11
I won't miss him and I don't need to see the pictures. I won't looee sleep over this. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #12
and victims of terrorism will never get the truth. n/t reddread Mar 2014 #13
Interesting but am not, as others have already said, going to lose any sleep over it. Kaleva Mar 2014 #14
Not enough holes in that waste of a human. uncommonlink Mar 2014 #15
All those "not losing sleep" comments are missing the point. morningfog Mar 2014 #16
We have a track record of going to far? William769 Mar 2014 #18
Poor bin laden.. Cha Mar 2014 #20
Well at least he has his share of... William769 Mar 2014 #21
... Cha Mar 2014 #22
This makes you look so childish. Did you even read what I wrote? morningfog Mar 2014 #24
No, Cha lives in a bubble universe Scootaloo Mar 2014 #41
Yes, and It makes them Look so Fucking Childish. Cha Mar 2014 #33
Fuck bin Laden. Fuck Putin. morningfog Mar 2014 #25
We do have that track record. Torture, extraordinarily rendition, drone strikes, NSA, etc. morningfog Mar 2014 #23
So, you are buying the claim that bin laden took more than a hundred bullets. bluestate10 Mar 2014 #27
If he was twitching, any more shots were unnecessary. morningfog Mar 2014 #30
I am sorry but I don't see it as an issue. He got what he deserved and we don't hrmjustin Mar 2014 #31
Who gives a shit. Cha Mar 2014 #17
This makes more sense zappaman Mar 2014 #19
Holy shit...I haven't laughed this hard in forever. titaniumsalute Mar 2014 #32
IHOP comes to mind... n/t Skip Intro Mar 2014 #40
Pictures of a dead bin laden shouldn't be shown regardless of how he died. Period. bluestate10 Mar 2014 #26
May I point out: Mission Accomplished Hekate Mar 2014 #34
Talk's cheap. lpbk2713 Mar 2014 #35
At the bottom of my list of concerns is did we treat Osama too harshly. Skip Intro Mar 2014 #36
I personally wpuld have favored a grab-n-bag operation. Scootaloo Mar 2014 #42
Propaganda tool. moondust Mar 2014 #38
I would hope we aren't cowering to terrorist threats in not publishing the pictures. Skip Intro Mar 2014 #39
It's not about offending anyone. moondust Mar 2014 #43
Publishing photos of enemy corpses is vulgar REP Mar 2014 #44
Posting those pictures would have likely gotten Americans killed. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #45

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
5. well, that's kind of sad. Bragging about it too. Even sadder.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 08:40 PM
Mar 2014

Yep, as it was said in one of my favorite films, when it comes to the milk of human kindness, the world has dried up at the tit.

William769

(55,147 posts)
6. They really screwed the pooch on this one.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 08:40 PM
Mar 2014

There should have been about 3000 holes put in that sadistic bastard.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
7. Oh well...
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 08:40 PM
Mar 2014

I'm not going to lose sleep if the SEAL team members who killed Osama fucking bin Laden were overly enthusiastic about their duties.

Sid

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
8. "...two confidential sources within the community have told us."
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 09:02 PM
Mar 2014

Sorry, Army Special Operations veteran Jack Murphy. You'll have to do better than that.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
9. Really can't say I give a crap. Sorry.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 09:11 PM
Mar 2014

If, for even a second, you feel some sort of sympathy for this motherfucker, just picture those people plunging to their deaths from the World Trade Center and, trust me, the feeling will go away.

The only thing I can condemn them over is that they didn't put another hundred bullets in the asshole.

Hekate

(90,721 posts)
29. I read that people in the Towers were leaping to their deaths the entire time until it collapsed
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 12:42 AM
Mar 2014

Thud. Thud. Thud. Thud. Thud. Thud. Thud.

Archae

(46,337 posts)
37. They were.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 01:17 AM
Mar 2014

When CBS had a film crew following some fire fighters in NYC on that day, the film crew and those firefighters went into the WTC lobby, after the second plane hit.

They filmed things (fortunately we couldn't see what they were) hitting the glass ceiling of the lobby.

I have no doubt whatsoever many of those things hitting and crashing into that roof were people.

So if Osama got shot many times, BFD.
He deserved what happened to Saddam.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
10. What would pictures of a dead Bin laden prove? Nothing, there are still the doubters
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 09:17 PM
Mar 2014

Like those who doubt if John Kennedy was killed November 22, 1963, and also those who believe Elvis is alive. It would not serve any purpose and a picture does not prove death, it could be photo shopped.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
11. Because he hijacked MH370. Geeze, guys, it's so freakin' obvious!
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 09:21 PM
Mar 2014

[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.
[/center][/font][hr]

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
16. All those "not losing sleep" comments are missing the point.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:10 PM
Mar 2014

Like our torturing in gitmo, this is an example of us hurting our own cause. They didn't need to put over a hundred bullets into him. It was unnecessary, at a minimum, and the result is that photographic evidence can never be produced. We have a track record of going too far, not being able to respect international law and norms, and the result is our own weakened position.

It is not just about what we did to bin Laden or any of the other alleged terrorist and enemy combatants. It is about what it has done to the US and our standing. It is what has been come to be expected of the US.

William769

(55,147 posts)
18. We have a track record of going to far?
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:24 PM
Mar 2014

Well it's about fucking time! I await your comments in all the other threads of other countries going to far.

Nuff said.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
25. Fuck bin Laden. Fuck Putin.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 12:31 AM
Mar 2014

I don't have a good thing to say about either of them. As I said, this is about the US and who we are and what is right. We hurt our own cause when we do unnecessary, immoral and illegal shit.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
23. We do have that track record. Torture, extraordinarily rendition, drone strikes, NSA, etc.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 12:28 AM
Mar 2014

I don't approve of it when any nation does it, but I am only a citizen of one nation. I only have a say in who is elected in one country. I only live in one country.

Just because others are doing something wrong doesn't mean we should. In fact, the opposite is the better course.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
27. So, you are buying the claim that bin laden took more than a hundred bullets.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 12:37 AM
Mar 2014

Isn't that a bit presumptuous?

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
30. If he was twitching, any more shots were unnecessary.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 12:42 AM
Mar 2014

I never bought that he had to be shot to be captured anyway. I would have much preferred that he be taken alive and hauled back to the states.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
31. I am sorry but I don't see it as an issue. He got what he deserved and we don't
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 12:43 AM
Mar 2014

need pictures to see it.

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
32. Holy shit...I haven't laughed this hard in forever.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 12:44 AM
Mar 2014

As I am reading this thread I suddenly hit this picture. After 2 or 3 minutes on the floor doubled over laughing my ass off I looked at it again and started the process over. Funniest picture I think I've ever seen. Thank you.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
26. Pictures of a dead bin laden shouldn't be shown regardless of how he died. Period.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 12:34 AM
Mar 2014

Why do people post shit like the article in the OP?

Hekate

(90,721 posts)
34. May I point out: Mission Accomplished
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 12:52 AM
Mar 2014

Dead is dead. They were sent to finish what Bush deliberately failed to do, and they succeeded. Bush the Lesser liked to boast about his ability to deal death out to others -- that's why he allowed the mutilated post-mortem photos of Uday and Qusay to circulate.

I figure Obama is more civilized, that's all. He doesn't boast, he just does what's necessary. He doesn't need to show off his war trophies or dress up in a codpiece-enhanced soldier suit.

As for the SEALs: Thanks, men.

Skip Intro

(19,768 posts)
36. At the bottom of my list of concerns is did we treat Osama too harshly.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 01:03 AM
Mar 2014

This assumes a buying-in to the official story, and honestly, at this point, I have no reason to do that. This also assumes his being behind 9*11, and I have questionable reason to assume that. This also, by extension, assumes a belief of the official story on what happened on 9*11, and there are plenty of reasons to question that.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
42. I personally wpuld have favored a grab-n-bag operation.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 01:41 AM
Mar 2014

If people want to play the propaganda game, having Osama on trial would have been an amazing coup for the US.

Oh well. I suppose a smash-n-blast with an unceremonious dumping at sea has its own way of neutering the foe's image.

moondust

(19,993 posts)
38. Propaganda tool.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 01:23 AM
Mar 2014

Publish the photos and they can then be used by terrorist leaders to stir revenge and hatred in ignorant boys and girls until the end of time.

Skip Intro

(19,768 posts)
39. I would hope we aren't cowering to terrorist threats in not publishing the pictures.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 01:27 AM
Mar 2014

Think for a second where that type of thinking would lead us.

What else would we decide not to do for fear of offending a bunch of radicals?

No, if that is the only reason, they should be released tomorrow.

moondust

(19,993 posts)
43. It's not about offending anyone.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 01:42 AM
Mar 2014

It's about supplying one-of-a-kind materials that could be used as propaganda to inspire suicide bombers and terrorist fighters for a long time to come.

"Khalid, look what they did to our beloved leader Osama! Just look at it! They are animals! Your sacrifice will please Osama in heaven and deliver you to your virgins!"


Disclaimer: That's one possibility but I don't know if that's the official reasoning.

REP

(21,691 posts)
44. Publishing photos of enemy corpses is vulgar
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 01:47 AM
Mar 2014

Displaying the corpse of the enemy dead like a trophy is undignified. There really is no good reason to do it.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
45. Posting those pictures would have likely gotten Americans killed.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 01:49 AM
Mar 2014

That is why they did not publish them.

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