As your client was STALKING the young man carrying iced tea and Skittles, after which Trayvon released your client from his grip, and thinking his OTHER nose might be then broken your client decided he had to KILL him?

Trayvon kicked Zimmerman's ass and then Zimmerman shot him.

Could Trayvon have broken Zimmerman's nose? Hell yes he could've. Nose isn't that damn hard to break. Hell if Trayvon got lucky and played his cards right he could've killed the bastard with his bare hands. But that isn't the point. The point is that, if Zimmerman's nose really was broken, then why haven't photos been released to attempt to shut people up? Oh, wait. Because they don't exist.

Sure. That'll work.

Zimmerman is a coward and a liar. imo

Although, I wish outcome had been different for both of them.

It could be like someone posted last night -- gun kicked him in nose.

If Trayvon hit Zimmerman hard enough to break his nose, he would surely have had bruising on his hand.

would be spewing copoius amounts of blood. Where is the ambulance, what hospital was he taken to?
The bandages sure came off quickly.
The photograph does not show the obvious black eyes after having one's nose broken.

Not one mention ANYWHERE that this poor victim, I mean killer, required medical care for his "broken nose" and lacerated head. None anywhere.

Autospy should show Zimmerman's blood literally on Trayvon's hands from punching him in the nose and breaking it. break your nose, bleed profusely out the nose.

I'm just trying to keep to what has actually been reported, not hyperbole.

In that vein..

http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/Twin%20Lakes%20Shooting%20Initial%20Report.pdf

The partial PD report (for what it's worth) mentions a bloody nose, that was treated at the scene by Sandord Fire Rescue.

It does nobody any good to go off half-cocked with a lot of misinformation.

instead of his nose. If he had, he'd still be alive now and we'd all have one young kid with a lot of potential among us and one less racist fuckwad. Sounds like a good trade to me.

If he would have followed the correct procedure. Getting his nose broken still allowed Zimmerman to return to his family and Martin laid in a morgue for three days.

Reports have said his father was very strict and the nosy cop impersonator was out of line.

A nose is either broken or it isn't. Where are the F x-rays?

we suddenly hear about all these injuries. Is the picture from 2005? I heard on one of the 911 recordings that Zimmerman was wearing a red shirt. In the photo that we hear is from 2005 he is wearing a red shirt? If he had all these injuries I would think the cops would have come out immediately with the report about his injuries, pictures, a mug shot, medical reports at the time of the incident, something. Then there is Trayvon, did he have any injuries besides the gunshot wound? Where did the bullet enter Trayvon? All we see is a bunch of hearsay about the injuries that Zimmerman sustained and absolutely no information about Trayvon other than he is dead. Did they do an autopsy on Trayvon? Where is it? I have heard that Trayvon's father said that was not Trayvon's voice yelling for help. I have heard that Trayvon's mother said it is definitely his voice.

Zimmerman was previously arrested for assaulting an officer. As I learned on Rachel Maddow, it's where that ubiquitous faceshot of him in the orange jumpsuit comes from. It's his mugshot.

Apparently he shoved a police officer at a bar near the University of Central Florida in 2005. Then, a month later, a woman accused Zimmerman of domestic violence and had an injunction filed against him.

http://www.northmobilepost.com/tag/george-zimmerman-arrested/

As far as I am aware, there are no photos of Zimmerman from the night he killed Trayvon. Or at least the Sanford police have not released any.

Zimmerman sustained all these injuries the cops would have released the mugshots immediately. The mugshots of Charlie Sheen, Nick Nolte and Mel Gibson come out immediately a guy kills someone and nothing? Every day I see mugshots in the paper and on TV of local arrests. Were there any reports after the incident about Zimmerman being treated for injuries? Has there been any reports where Tayvaon was shot? We had a homeowner shoot an intruder a few months ago in this area. The story was the intruder was shot breaking into a home. The guys body was found outside the house in front of a broken window (glass was inside of the house) and the guy was shot in the crown of his head. In this case the shooter was also released but I think the evidence the cops released proved it was justified under our castle doctrine.

And Zimmerman did not seek medical treatment for his "injuries." It's not clear if the cops took pictures of him as evidence though. They certainly have not released any such pictures and are acting as if there are no such pictures. Hell, they didn't even take his damn gun as evidence until weeks later--after they were shamed into doing so.

The asshole was stalking and pursing him. Sounds like Trayvon might have decided to stand his ground .

Stay tuned for Hannity and the O'Reilly Factor--they'll keep us up to date with the "facts".

What is the holdup?

He might still be alive.

He was being attacked by a crazy man with a gun. I'd punch him too.

much less killed.

Big, effing deal.

BTW, his abuse is why he' my ex.

he had tackled or forced Martin to the ground.

In the 911 tape, you can hear Martin screaming for help, presumably because he's being held down or held at the point of a gun.

On edit--"self defense" sounds pretty bogus since we know Zimmerman tailed Martin and no doubt got in his face.

Has been that Zimmerman confronted Martin, the two fought, and Zimmerman pulled out his gun during the struggle and shot Martin dead. I believe that when all is said and done, that will be the generally accepted outline of what happened.

Lots of details to fill in there though (and I don't know what legal ramifications any of them would have). Who initiated the physical contact? How long did the struggle last before the shooting occurred? What was the nature of that struggle (punching, kicking, choking etc.) and who was 'winning?' Did either party have reason to fear for their life before the gun came out? A lot of those things are difficult to determine in a fight even if you're standing 3 feet away watching closely in broad daylight.

He killed a kid, there can be no doubt of that.

the right to kill the victom who they attacked?