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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTECHDIRT: Will Cheese Derail TAFTA/TTIP?
"It would be rather ironic if the biggest trade deal in history collapsed not because of clashes over major issues like corporate sovereignty or the Precautionary Principle but over the names for cheese."- TECHDIRT
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140312/11300926551/will-cheese-derail-taftattip.shtml
Will Cheese Derail TAFTA/TTIP?
by Glyn Moody
Fri, Mar 14th 2014 (99 comments)
A battle over cheese could prove a major problem for the TAFTA/TTIP negotiations currently getting down to serious discussions. Here's the background, as reported by the Guardian:
Needless to say, some people in the US are not best pleased with what they call "an absurd European initiative":
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Given those strongly-opposing views, it's unclear how the issue of GIs will be resolved in the TAFTA/TTIP talks -- or even whether it can be resolved. It would be rather ironic if the biggest trade deal in history collapsed not because of clashes over major issues like corporate sovereignty or the Precautionary Principle but over the names for cheese.
Will Cheese Derail TAFTA/TTIP?
by Glyn Moody
Fri, Mar 14th 2014 (99 comments)
A battle over cheese could prove a major problem for the TAFTA/TTIP negotiations currently getting down to serious discussions. Here's the background, as reported by the Guardian:
As part of trade talks, the European Union wants to ban the use of European names like parmesan, feta and gruyere on cheese made in the United States.
The argument is that the American-made cheeses are shadows of the original European varieties and cut into sales and identity of the European cheeses. The Europeans say parmesan should only come from Parma, Italy, not those familiar green cylinders that American companies sell. Feta should only be from Greece, even though feta isn't a place. The EU argues it "is so closely connected to Greece as to be identified as an inherently Greek product."
Needless to say, some people in the US are not best pleased with what they call "an absurd European initiative":
U.S. Senators Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) and Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) are working together to protect American dairy farmers and producers from an absurd European initiative that would change common names for cheeses Americans enjoy every day.
In a bipartisan letter signed by more than 50 of their Senate colleagues, Sens. Toomey and Schumer urged the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) and the United States Trade Representative (USTR) to fight European Union (EU) efforts to prohibit American dairy producers from using dozens of common cheese names. The EU claims that dairy products bearing names such as asiago, feta, parmesan, and muenster are "geographical indicators" and can only be appropriately displayed on products made in certain areas of Europe.
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Given those strongly-opposing views, it's unclear how the issue of GIs will be resolved in the TAFTA/TTIP talks -- or even whether it can be resolved. It would be rather ironic if the biggest trade deal in history collapsed not because of clashes over major issues like corporate sovereignty or the Precautionary Principle but over the names for cheese.
http://www.dairyreporter.com/Regulation-Safety/Senators-object-to-EU-claim-on-cheese-names/
Senators object to EU claim on cheese names
By Rachel Arthur+, 14-Mar-2014
(More than 50) US senators have objected to an 'absurd' European initiative to protect local cheese names, which would force changes to common names in the States.
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Senators object to EU claim on cheese names
By Rachel Arthur+, 14-Mar-2014
(More than 50) US senators have objected to an 'absurd' European initiative to protect local cheese names, which would force changes to common names in the States.
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TECHDIRT: Will Cheese Derail TAFTA/TTIP? (Original Post)
proverbialwisdom
Mar 2014
OP
If we can derail this misbegotten TPP over cheese names, then let's GO FOR IT!
CaliforniaPeggy
Mar 2014
#8
Jalapeņos should only come from Jalapa, Veracruz. Habaneros from Habana, Cuba.
Xipe Totec
Mar 2014
#9
Historic NY
(37,452 posts)1. What now cheese wars...didn't they learn anything about the banana war.
WhiteTara
(29,721 posts)2. What ever it takes. nt
City Lights
(25,171 posts)11. Indeed! nt
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)3. That's gouda 'nuff fourme. nt
proverbialwisdom
(4,959 posts)5. Good one, lol, although I needed look up 'fourme.' (nt)
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)7. Very Caerphilly done there...
...Praise be to Cheeses...
Wilms
(26,795 posts)4. Good. That'll stink for the 1%. n/t
MineralMan
(146,325 posts)6. That Limburger stinks to high heaven.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,683 posts)8. If we can derail this misbegotten TPP over cheese names, then let's GO FOR IT!
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)9. Jalapeņos should only come from Jalapa, Veracruz. Habaneros from Habana, Cuba.
And Tequila... well...
Hamburgers from Hamburg?
Frankfurters from Frankfurt?
French Fries from France?
proverbialwisdom
(4,959 posts)10. Not a joke. Check it out.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/larryolmsted/2012/11/19/the-dark-side-of-parmesan-cheese-what-you-dont-know-might-hurt-you/
Most Parmesan Cheeses In America Are Fake, Here's Why
by Larry Olmsted
11/19/2012 @ 7:56AM (73,397 views)
My last column was full of praise for Parmigiano-Reggiano. This great cheese is worthy of all that praise: it is very natural, very healthy, very delicious and very consistent. It is wonderful by itself in chunks, shaved over or grated into foods, cooked or uncooked. It has been so good at doing so many things for so long over 800 years that it has earned the nickname in the dairy industry, The King of Cheeses.
But there is one big problem. As good as the cheese is, and as famous as it is, you rarely actually get to eat it even when you think you are. The English translation of the cheese is Parmesan, and when you buy it in England you get Parmigiano-Reggiano. Its the law. The American translation is also Parmesan, but when you buy it here, you could be getting almost anything except usually Parmigiano-Reggiano.
I noted in my last column that by law, Parmigiano-Reggiano is allowed to contain only three very simple ingredients: milk (produced in the Parma/Reggio region and less than 20 hours from cow to cheese), salt, and rennet (a natural enzyme from calf intestine). Three other ingredients, Cellulose Powder, Potassium Sorbate, and Cheese Cultures are not found in Parmigiano-Reggiano they are completely illegal in its production. Yet all three are in Kraft 100% Grated Parmesan Cheese (Im not sure if that means it is supposed to be 100% parmesan or simply 100% grated, which it certainly is). Its far enough from the real thing that Kraft was legally forced to stop selling its cheese labeled Parmesan in Europe.
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Ultimately it is you, the consumer who is the victim. It is not like you are being fed rat poison, but you may well be eating things you didnt intend to eat and dont consider healthy. After all, one of the major appeals of Parmigiano-Reggiano is its highly protected purity, plus its high levels of calcium, protein, many other vitamins it is considered so healthy that is the cheese of choice in space, chosen as an especially good food for astronauts to eat by both the U.S. and Russian space programs. It contains nothing artificial, absolutely no additives and furthermore, the provenance of the milk used to make it is well known: it contains no antibiotics, no steroids and no growth hormones. It is always ultra-fresh for cheesemaking. Even what the cows eat is well documented, with no silage, ever, a diet consisting primarily of vegetation grown in the same carefully delineated Parmigiano-Reggiano region.
When people who care what they put into their bodies eat Parmigiano-Reggiano, they know exactly what they are putting in their bodies. This is often not the case with Parmesan, Parmigiana, Parmesano, or whatever you want to call it from myriad other producers not subject to these regulations. Many have laundry lists of chemicals and additives and even if they list only the same three ingredients, there is no knowing whats in the milk used, where it came from, how old it is, or how the cheese is actually made. As we are increasingly discovering in the form of a global health epidemic linked heavily to diet, there is a lot of truth to the old saying You are what you eat. There is a similar saying attributed to high-level athletes looking for maximum performance: Garbage in, garbage out.
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Most Parmesan Cheeses In America Are Fake, Here's Why
by Larry Olmsted
11/19/2012 @ 7:56AM (73,397 views)
My last column was full of praise for Parmigiano-Reggiano. This great cheese is worthy of all that praise: it is very natural, very healthy, very delicious and very consistent. It is wonderful by itself in chunks, shaved over or grated into foods, cooked or uncooked. It has been so good at doing so many things for so long over 800 years that it has earned the nickname in the dairy industry, The King of Cheeses.
But there is one big problem. As good as the cheese is, and as famous as it is, you rarely actually get to eat it even when you think you are. The English translation of the cheese is Parmesan, and when you buy it in England you get Parmigiano-Reggiano. Its the law. The American translation is also Parmesan, but when you buy it here, you could be getting almost anything except usually Parmigiano-Reggiano.
I noted in my last column that by law, Parmigiano-Reggiano is allowed to contain only three very simple ingredients: milk (produced in the Parma/Reggio region and less than 20 hours from cow to cheese), salt, and rennet (a natural enzyme from calf intestine). Three other ingredients, Cellulose Powder, Potassium Sorbate, and Cheese Cultures are not found in Parmigiano-Reggiano they are completely illegal in its production. Yet all three are in Kraft 100% Grated Parmesan Cheese (Im not sure if that means it is supposed to be 100% parmesan or simply 100% grated, which it certainly is). Its far enough from the real thing that Kraft was legally forced to stop selling its cheese labeled Parmesan in Europe.
<>
Ultimately it is you, the consumer who is the victim. It is not like you are being fed rat poison, but you may well be eating things you didnt intend to eat and dont consider healthy. After all, one of the major appeals of Parmigiano-Reggiano is its highly protected purity, plus its high levels of calcium, protein, many other vitamins it is considered so healthy that is the cheese of choice in space, chosen as an especially good food for astronauts to eat by both the U.S. and Russian space programs. It contains nothing artificial, absolutely no additives and furthermore, the provenance of the milk used to make it is well known: it contains no antibiotics, no steroids and no growth hormones. It is always ultra-fresh for cheesemaking. Even what the cows eat is well documented, with no silage, ever, a diet consisting primarily of vegetation grown in the same carefully delineated Parmigiano-Reggiano region.
When people who care what they put into their bodies eat Parmigiano-Reggiano, they know exactly what they are putting in their bodies. This is often not the case with Parmesan, Parmigiana, Parmesano, or whatever you want to call it from myriad other producers not subject to these regulations. Many have laundry lists of chemicals and additives and even if they list only the same three ingredients, there is no knowing whats in the milk used, where it came from, how old it is, or how the cheese is actually made. As we are increasingly discovering in the form of a global health epidemic linked heavily to diet, there is a lot of truth to the old saying You are what you eat. There is a similar saying attributed to high-level athletes looking for maximum performance: Garbage in, garbage out.
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