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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:26 PM Mar 2012

Suspicious black male about 7-9 years old, four feet tall, with a skinny build and short black hair

Was reported to 911 by Zimmerman:

On April 22, 2011, Zimmerman called to report a black male about “7-9” years old, four feet tall, with a “skinny build” and short black hair. There is no indication in the police report of the reason for Zimmerman’s suspicion of the boy.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2012/03/23/george_zimmerman_s_long_lonely_war_against_black_youths_doing_things.html


Shouldn't it be against the law to report this kind of crap to 911?
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Suspicious black male about 7-9 years old, four feet tall, with a skinny build and short black hair (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Mar 2012 OP
You'd think. In an area that size though, the cops were pretty much familiar with Zimmerman brewens Mar 2012 #1
my great pyre matches most of that description ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2012 #7
funny, that breed was exactly what I was thinking of when I saw the title of the OP niyad Mar 2012 #14
Great Pyrenees are bec Mar 2012 #18
As I said a few minor differences. My pyre is white, too, just about 3 feet tall ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2012 #28
That's not a minor difference nxylas Mar 2012 #44
Zim's got some issues, on top of being an apparent murderer. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2012 #48
Evidently, ProSense Mar 2012 #2
I scanned through the 47 pages of his 911 calls earlier. Learned Ruby the Liberal Mar 2012 #3
Got a link to the transcripts of the 911 calls? anti-alec Mar 2012 #39
No - just the reports. Ruby the Liberal Mar 2012 #41
Did he think the kid took the cookies from the cookie jar? MADem Mar 2012 #4
Considering he got away with domestic violence and assaulting a cop, this is nothing n/t arcane1 Mar 2012 #6
Assaulting a cop and they don't confiscate his gun? HockeyMom Mar 2012 #9
Wow. No words. n/t DLevine Mar 2012 #5
He is in tight with the police IMO. nm rhett o rick Mar 2012 #8
his father is a retired judge. That's why he's getting special treatment. Schema Thing Mar 2012 #11
That is precisely my opinion, rhett o rick. JDPriestly Mar 2012 #24
Remember back in the day when we use to take shortcuts across the neighbor's yard? Baitball Blogger Mar 2012 #10
I didn't realize I was taking my life in my own hands ... lpbk2713 Mar 2012 #13
Republicans sure know how to create a more gentler kinder nation. Baitball Blogger Mar 2012 #29
I do... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2012 #54
The verdict is in. Grumpy old men won. Baitball Blogger Mar 2012 #55
Remember. Florida cops have tasered "out of control" 5 year old Kinder kids HockeyMom Mar 2012 #12
+1,000 freshwest Mar 2012 #16
I can only conclude that so much of their "training" ... surrealAmerican Mar 2012 #37
I am always dumbfounded that cops can't learn to use a net, the ancient Romans could. xtraxritical Mar 2012 #50
It certainly sounds like he was the 911 equivalent of a vexatious litigant treestar Mar 2012 #15
It is in most places KamaAina Mar 2012 #17
The article omitted one important detail... -..__... Mar 2012 #19
And a 2nd important detail dems_rightnow Mar 2012 #21
Yeah, right. Mariana Mar 2012 #23
Uhhh...hello... -..__... Mar 2012 #36
curious what was blacked out Voice for Peace Mar 2012 #26
EVA... EVM refers to one of the dispatchers. -..__... Mar 2012 #34
maybe initials of dispatcher as an ID Voice for Peace Mar 2012 #38
That describes my neighor's son HockeyMom Mar 2012 #20
Sure he thought the 7 year old was a threat... -..__... Mar 2012 #35
i think he convinced himself he was part of some official law enforcement JI7 Mar 2012 #22
all the calls reporting in to 911, as if he were on a police walkietalkie Voice for Peace Mar 2012 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author barbtries Mar 2012 #25
Oh, for crying out loud etherealtruth Mar 2012 #30
I can beat that insanity, that kind of thinking believes 'others' are dangerous in the womb. freshwest Mar 2012 #31
You know, on second thought, Zimmerman sounds like a sex predator. Following a little kid? Come on! freshwest Mar 2012 #32
when I worked at a psych hospital annm4peace Mar 2012 #33
Wow, I thought that was a joke when I read the title. TPaine7 Mar 2012 #40
9 year olds can be soooo intimidating arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #42
This was no child! Withywindle Mar 2012 #53
OMG, I didn't know and a Hobbit no less... arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #43
I would really like to know ... Ganja Ninja Mar 2012 #45
That skinny kid dodged a bullet Doctor_J Mar 2012 #46
Judging by the report mactime Mar 2012 #47
This hardly seems like 911 material Doctor_J Mar 2012 #49
If Zimmerman abused the 911 system so badly eyewall Mar 2012 #51
I was thinking the same thing MrBig Mar 2012 #52
There Is Money Behind Zimmerman's Defense DallasNE Mar 2012 #57
This is so creepy. I'd have hated to have Z in my neighborhood, period. freshwest Mar 2012 #58

brewens

(13,617 posts)
1. You'd think. In an area that size though, the cops were pretty much familiar with Zimmerman
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:30 PM
Mar 2012

and what he was doing. I can only assume they approved of his harrassing black people in his neighborhood.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
7. my great pyre matches most of that description
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:37 PM
Mar 2012

and I'd bet that asshole would shoot him too, for being suspicious.

My partner and I still shed tears over this whole mess. It really is sick, but it also shows just what is wrong with this country. Economics, social issues, racism, everything - all wrapped tightly into this horrible event.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
28. As I said a few minor differences. My pyre is white, too, just about 3 feet tall
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 04:23 PM
Mar 2012

When he sits. Actually, when he's needy, he backs up and sits on my lap.
When he reaches over the kitchen table to help himself (when we aren't watching) he does act suspicious.

Pyres are great, except for that slight shedding thing. Mine killed two skunks within a week last November, luckily the skunks were just stinky, not infected. Of course, he had to share one with dad, thank you very much.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
48. Zim's got some issues, on top of being an apparent murderer.
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 11:59 AM
Mar 2012

But the people I blame the most are ALEC, the crazy conservatives that created this legislation in the first place.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
2. Evidently,
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:31 PM
Mar 2012

black males are suspicious immediately after they learn to walk. What's that about two feet tall?

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
3. I scanned through the 47 pages of his 911 calls earlier. Learned
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:31 PM
Mar 2012

that it is OK to call 911 (on more than one occasion) to report a pothole.

Who knew.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
4. Did he think the kid took the cookies from the cookie jar?
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:33 PM
Mar 2012

Jesus--what was wrong with this guy, and why didn't the police reel him in well before he went and killed someone?

Baitball Blogger

(46,756 posts)
10. Remember back in the day when we use to take shortcuts across the neighbor's yard?
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:47 PM
Mar 2012

That's apt to get you killed these days.

lpbk2713

(42,766 posts)
13. I didn't realize I was taking my life in my own hands ...
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 03:07 PM
Mar 2012

When I ate all those grapes right off the neighbor's vine.


 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
12. Remember. Florida cops have tasered "out of control" 5 year old Kinder kids
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 03:02 PM
Mar 2012

Two Florida cops. These children are so dangerous!!!!!! I find shoot first ask questions later, even with a taser, beyond belief. All law enforcement should be able to wrap a 5 year old child. There are techniques that can be used, with both children and adults. I work with the mentally impaired, and many times violent, children and adults. I have used a basket hold on an out of control child, talked to them and calmed them down. I have wrapped a 35 year old, 6', 200 lb. man, and calmed him down. It is not easy, but can be done, and doesn't hurt them. I am 5'1" and weigh 100 lbs. Why can't these big, bad, Florida MALE cops do the same in situations with little kids?

The bottom line is violence begets violence. It sound like this Zimmerman guy needed some very serious counseling. He was a loaded gun, figuartively and literally.

surrealAmerican

(11,363 posts)
37. I can only conclude that so much of their "training" ...
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 09:06 PM
Mar 2012

... is centered around the use of weapons, that other tactics simply do not occur to them.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
15. It certainly sounds like he was the 911 equivalent of a vexatious litigant
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 03:19 PM
Mar 2012

He's tying them up with trivia when a real emergency could be called in.

 

-..__...

(7,776 posts)
19. The article omitted one important detail...
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 03:48 PM
Mar 2012
"COMPL ADVD IS WALKING ALONE AND IS NOT SUPERVISED ON BUSY STREET // COMPL CONCERNED FOR WELL BEING"


And nowhere in the report does it state the the 7-9 YOA was "suspicous".

dems_rightnow

(1,956 posts)
21. And a 2nd important detail
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 03:55 PM
Mar 2012

It's not a 911 call. It's a call to the non-emergency line. "Call source" would indicate "911" if it was a 911 call.

Mariana

(14,860 posts)
23. Yeah, right.
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 04:05 PM
Mar 2012

Like "something is wrong" with Trayvon Martin, and "he might be on drugs". Sure.

I recognize this because I've seen it. He wanted the cops to come out harass the kid and the kids's family. I've known people who will do this to black people, I'm related to one who does it (who lives in Florida, by the way). If she sees any black person, particularly a man, who dares to set foot in her neighborhood without a "good reason" to be there, she'll call the cops on them. She'll make something up for an excuse, she'll do it just to fuck with them because she hates their guts. Zimmerman's pattern looks mighty familiar to me.

 

-..__...

(7,776 posts)
36. Uhhh...hello...
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 08:13 PM
Mar 2012

the incident in question has nothing to do with Martin.

Thanks for your anecdote/experience, though.

Unfortunately for you... it has no relevance or bearing on Zimmermans situation.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
26. curious what was blacked out
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 04:20 PM
Mar 2012

one of the command ID's - EVM. report was logged twice but as what..? "CRANK" maybe?

 

-..__...

(7,776 posts)
34. EVA... EVM refers to one of the dispatchers.
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 08:02 PM
Mar 2012

Either "twalls" or "fhenders".

Why it was "blacked out"... I have no idea (there's another report dated 10/20/04 with the same info redacted).

I'm figuring some of these codes/acronyms out, EVA/EVM has me stumped though.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
38. maybe initials of dispatcher as an ID
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 09:32 PM
Mar 2012

I wondered if by chance one of the dispatchers had noted the calls as being a perpetual crank -- they might have blacked out his/her notes.

edit, I see I'm wrong about it being initials

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
20. That describes my neighor's son
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 03:49 PM
Mar 2012

In fact, yesterday in Florida he was wearing a white hoodie to school. It looked like rain. Very few little kids or adults here carry umbrellas. That is exactly why I wear hoodies. Of course, as an old white woman most people would not consider me a threat in a hoodie.

Although if Zimmerman thought a 7 year old was a threat, I suppose even a 63 year old woman might be threat to him too. As I said before, this guy needed serious counseling.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
27. all the calls reporting in to 911, as if he were on a police walkietalkie
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 04:22 PM
Mar 2012

makes me think of Law & Order... he must watch too much tv

Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
30. Oh, for crying out loud
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 04:26 PM
Mar 2012

Should I call 911 regarding the suspicious 4 year old next door? She is as cute as can be 9and even smarter than cute) but i definitely have seen her in a hoodie and i am positive she is not "white" (whatever the hell that is).

I am not sure that you can tell someone NOT to call 911 .... but geeeze

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
31. I can beat that insanity, that kind of thinking believes 'others' are dangerous in the womb.
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 04:58 PM
Mar 2012

Many tyrannical societies in the past and some Americans believe behavior is an inherited trait. Hitler killed communists and union people because they were dangerous to his regime, and their families as well. Part of their bloodline belief ideas.

People that focus on blacks this way are obsessed, and they don't seem to realize that they are. I've often wondered why GOP candidates, and their RW pundits, who are not black talk as much about black people as they do. Are black people standing outside their windows and waving at them all day?

I can only think they consider blacks to be magical beings with super powers that they are jealous of or something...

annm4peace

(6,119 posts)
33. when I worked at a psych hospital
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 05:04 PM
Mar 2012

we had several people who were found to be manic.. that had called 911 numerous times so that the cops came to check on them.

there are so many reasons to be outraged by the actions of the police dept.

Besides obviously dangerous by consistently targeting young kids of color.. he was tying up the 911 line.

arthritisR_US

(7,291 posts)
42. 9 year olds can be soooo intimidating
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 09:53 PM
Mar 2012

and scary. If you are not careful you can get them mixed up in your mind with those big bad dwarf's from the Lord of the Rings.

Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
45. I would really like to know ...
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 10:17 AM
Mar 2012

How many of the times that George Zimmerman called the police were there there any actual crimes or people intending to commit a crime? Were there any arrests?

 

mactime

(202 posts)
47. Judging by the report
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 11:49 AM
Mar 2012

Zimmerman called in because he was concerned about a child walking across a street with heavy traffic. Also I see no mention of 'suspicious'.

eyewall

(674 posts)
51. If Zimmerman abused the 911 system so badly
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 01:33 AM
Mar 2012

you'd think the cops would seriously dislike the guy. I'm surprised they weren't happy to have an excuse to lock him up.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
57. There Is Money Behind Zimmerman's Defense
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 12:37 PM
Mar 2012

The message is very carefully controlled, including strategic leaks from law enforcement aimed at tearing down the character of Martin. Even this Joe Oliver character. It seems that Oliver's wife is a close friend of George Zimmerman's mother-in-law. Why would someone that far removed be taking up such a central role in defending Zimmerman? How well do you know the friends of your mother-in-law?

What this Slate article shows, though, is a pattern of racial profiling by Zimmerman although it would help to know more about the other 40 some calls Zimmerman made.

Lastly, did Zimmerman have a regular job? I haven't heard from any co-workers so it leaves me wondering what Zimmerman did other than crusing around the gated community looking for skinny black kids that always seem to get away.

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