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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSuspicious black male about 7-9 years old, four feet tall, with a skinny build and short black hair
Was reported to 911 by Zimmerman:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2012/03/23/george_zimmerman_s_long_lonely_war_against_black_youths_doing_things.html
Shouldn't it be against the law to report this kind of crap to 911?
brewens
(13,617 posts)and what he was doing. I can only assume they approved of his harrassing black people in his neighborhood.
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)and I'd bet that asshole would shoot him too, for being suspicious.
My partner and I still shed tears over this whole mess. It really is sick, but it also shows just what is wrong with this country. Economics, social issues, racism, everything - all wrapped tightly into this horrible event.
niyad
(113,527 posts)bec
(107 posts)white. I have two of them. Perhaps you were thinking of Newfoundlands?
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)When he sits. Actually, when he's needy, he backs up and sits on my lap.
When he reaches over the kitchen table to help himself (when we aren't watching) he does act suspicious.
Pyres are great, except for that slight shedding thing. Mine killed two skunks within a week last November, luckily the skunks were just stinky, not infected. Of course, he had to share one with dad, thank you very much.
nxylas
(6,440 posts)Well, not to George Zimmerman, anyway.
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)But the people I blame the most are ALEC, the crazy conservatives that created this legislation in the first place.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)black males are suspicious immediately after they learn to walk. What's that about two feet tall?
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)that it is OK to call 911 (on more than one occasion) to report a pothole.
Who knew.
anti-alec
(420 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Linked here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002469673
MADem
(135,425 posts)Jesus--what was wrong with this guy, and why didn't the police reel him in well before he went and killed someone?
arcane1
(38,613 posts)HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)That is unbelievable.
DLevine
(1,788 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Schema Thing
(10,283 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,756 posts)That's apt to get you killed these days.
lpbk2713
(42,766 posts)When I ate all those grapes right off the neighbor's vine.
Baitball Blogger
(46,756 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)I couldn't imagine doing that now, especially in Texas.
Baitball Blogger
(46,756 posts)HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)Two Florida cops. These children are so dangerous!!!!!! I find shoot first ask questions later, even with a taser, beyond belief. All law enforcement should be able to wrap a 5 year old child. There are techniques that can be used, with both children and adults. I work with the mentally impaired, and many times violent, children and adults. I have used a basket hold on an out of control child, talked to them and calmed them down. I have wrapped a 35 year old, 6', 200 lb. man, and calmed him down. It is not easy, but can be done, and doesn't hurt them. I am 5'1" and weigh 100 lbs. Why can't these big, bad, Florida MALE cops do the same in situations with little kids?
The bottom line is violence begets violence. It sound like this Zimmerman guy needed some very serious counseling. He was a loaded gun, figuartively and literally.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)surrealAmerican
(11,363 posts)... is centered around the use of weapons, that other tactics simply do not occur to them.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)He's tying them up with trivia when a real emergency could be called in.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)then again, so is blowing an unarmed citizen to kingdom come.
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(7,776 posts)And nowhere in the report does it state the the 7-9 YOA was "suspicous".
dems_rightnow
(1,956 posts)It's not a 911 call. It's a call to the non-emergency line. "Call source" would indicate "911" if it was a 911 call.
Mariana
(14,860 posts)Like "something is wrong" with Trayvon Martin, and "he might be on drugs". Sure.
I recognize this because I've seen it. He wanted the cops to come out harass the kid and the kids's family. I've known people who will do this to black people, I'm related to one who does it (who lives in Florida, by the way). If she sees any black person, particularly a man, who dares to set foot in her neighborhood without a "good reason" to be there, she'll call the cops on them. She'll make something up for an excuse, she'll do it just to fuck with them because she hates their guts. Zimmerman's pattern looks mighty familiar to me.
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(7,776 posts)the incident in question has nothing to do with Martin.
Thanks for your anecdote/experience, though.
Unfortunately for you... it has no relevance or bearing on Zimmermans situation.
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)one of the command ID's - EVM. report was logged twice but as what..? "CRANK" maybe?
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(7,776 posts)Either "twalls" or "fhenders".
Why it was "blacked out"... I have no idea (there's another report dated 10/20/04 with the same info redacted).
I'm figuring some of these codes/acronyms out, EVA/EVM has me stumped though.
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)I wondered if by chance one of the dispatchers had noted the calls as being a perpetual crank -- they might have blacked out his/her notes.
edit, I see I'm wrong about it being initials
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)In fact, yesterday in Florida he was wearing a white hoodie to school. It looked like rain. Very few little kids or adults here carry umbrellas. That is exactly why I wear hoodies. Of course, as an old white woman most people would not consider me a threat in a hoodie.
Although if Zimmerman thought a 7 year old was a threat, I suppose even a 63 year old woman might be threat to him too. As I said before, this guy needed serious counseling.
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(7,776 posts)a threat to himself... read the report.
JI7
(89,262 posts)Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)makes me think of Law & Order... he must watch too much tv
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etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)Should I call 911 regarding the suspicious 4 year old next door? She is as cute as can be 9and even smarter than cute) but i definitely have seen her in a hoodie and i am positive she is not "white" (whatever the hell that is).
I am not sure that you can tell someone NOT to call 911 .... but geeeze
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Many tyrannical societies in the past and some Americans believe behavior is an inherited trait. Hitler killed communists and union people because they were dangerous to his regime, and their families as well. Part of their bloodline belief ideas.
People that focus on blacks this way are obsessed, and they don't seem to realize that they are. I've often wondered why GOP candidates, and their RW pundits, who are not black talk as much about black people as they do. Are black people standing outside their windows and waving at them all day?
I can only think they consider blacks to be magical beings with super powers that they are jealous of or something...
freshwest
(53,661 posts)annm4peace
(6,119 posts)we had several people who were found to be manic.. that had called 911 numerous times so that the cops came to check on them.
there are so many reasons to be outraged by the actions of the police dept.
Besides obviously dangerous by consistently targeting young kids of color.. he was tying up the 911 line.
TPaine7
(4,286 posts)A suspicious 7-9 year old?
Really?
arthritisR_US
(7,291 posts)and scary. If you are not careful you can get them mixed up in your mind with those big bad dwarf's from the Lord of the Rings.
Withywindle
(9,988 posts)It was a HOBBIT THUG! The most dangerous kind.
arthritisR_US
(7,291 posts)Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)
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Ganja Ninja
(15,953 posts)How many of the times that George Zimmerman called the police were there there any actual crimes or people intending to commit a crime? Were there any arrests?
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)literally
mactime
(202 posts)Zimmerman called in because he was concerned about a child walking across a street with heavy traffic. Also I see no mention of 'suspicious'.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)eyewall
(674 posts)you'd think the cops would seriously dislike the guy. I'm surprised they weren't happy to have an excuse to lock him up.
MrBig
(640 posts)DallasNE
(7,403 posts)The message is very carefully controlled, including strategic leaks from law enforcement aimed at tearing down the character of Martin. Even this Joe Oliver character. It seems that Oliver's wife is a close friend of George Zimmerman's mother-in-law. Why would someone that far removed be taking up such a central role in defending Zimmerman? How well do you know the friends of your mother-in-law?
What this Slate article shows, though, is a pattern of racial profiling by Zimmerman although it would help to know more about the other 40 some calls Zimmerman made.
Lastly, did Zimmerman have a regular job? I haven't heard from any co-workers so it leaves me wondering what Zimmerman did other than crusing around the gated community looking for skinny black kids that always seem to get away.