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spanone

(135,857 posts)
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 10:56 PM Mar 2014

Obama to Call for End to N.S.A.’s Bulk Data Collection

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration is preparing to unveil a legislative proposal for a far-reaching overhaul of the National Security Agency’s once-secret bulk phone records program in a way that — if approved by Congress — would end the aspect that has most alarmed privacy advocates since its existence was leaked last year, according to senior administration officials.

Under the proposal, they said, the N.S.A. would end its systematic collection of data about Americans’ calling habits. The bulk records would stay in the hands of phone companies, which would not be required to retain the data for any longer than they normally would. And the N.S.A. could obtain specific records only with permission from a judge, using a new kind of court order.

In a speech in January, President Obama said he wanted to get the N.S.A. out of the business of collecting call records in bulk while preserving the program’s abilities. He acknowledged, however, that there was no easy way to do so, and had instructed Justice Department and intelligence officials to come up with a plan by March 28 — Friday — when the current court order authorizing the program expires.

As part of the proposal, the administration has decided to ask the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to renew the program as it currently exists for at least one more 90-day cycle, senior administration officials said. But under the plan the administration has developed and now advocates, the officials said, it would later undergo major changes.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/25/us/obama-to-seek-nsa-curb-on-call-data.html

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Obama to Call for End to N.S.A.’s Bulk Data Collection (Original Post) spanone Mar 2014 OP
Thats a BS response that ducks responsibility. HooptieWagon Mar 2014 #1
or congress could slash the NSA budget in a heartbeat Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #2
Yes, Congress could force Obama's hand by slashing NSA's obscene budget. HooptieWagon Mar 2014 #3
Which is why the POTUS is crafting an end for domestic data collection Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #4
It's quite refreshing to have a President who doesn't think he's a dictator Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #5
Strange definition of dictator you have. HooptieWagon Apr 2014 #6
 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
1. Thats a BS response that ducks responsibility.
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 01:19 AM
Mar 2014

NSA falls under control of executive branch. Obama could stop illegal NSA spying with a 60 second phone call, if he really wanted to.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
2. or congress could slash the NSA budget in a heartbeat
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 01:29 AM
Mar 2014

but it's not like congress gives a shit about doing anything, either...

Part of me does wonder why Obama even bothers, since nothing he'd do would ever be 'enough'...

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
3. Yes, Congress could force Obama's hand by slashing NSA's obscene budget.
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 01:37 AM
Mar 2014

However, the fact remains that the NSA is under the direct control of the POTUS. Its only logical to assume the director is carrying out Obama's wishes, otherwise he'd be replaced by one who will.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
4. Which is why the POTUS is crafting an end for domestic data collection
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:10 AM
Mar 2014

and then the ball would be in congress' court for approval...

Then once that is done, we'll see once and for all if Greenwald gives a good goddamn about what's been going on in Brazil, or if Snowden has the stones to criticize Russia...I'm betting dollars to yen that they'll both keep their myopic outrage squarely focused on Washington and continue to rat out legitimate spying operation, though...

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
5. It's quite refreshing to have a President who doesn't think he's a dictator
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:21 AM
Mar 2014

I like the fact that he's going to Congress for this legislation so the new laws will be on the books.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
6. Strange definition of dictator you have.
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 03:58 PM
Apr 2014

In my view, the POTUS shouldn't have to ask Congress to stop him from persuing illegal actions by a department he is in charge of.
That he continued such illegal actions , and tried to hide them until revealed by several whistle-blowers is what sounds like a quasi-dictator to me.

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