Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

boxman15

(1,033 posts)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 12:28 AM Mar 2014

Obama to Call for End to N.S.A.’s Bulk Data Collection

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration is preparing to unveil a legislative proposal for a far-reaching overhaul of the National Security Agency’s once-secret bulk phone records program in a way that — if approved by Congress — would end the aspect that has most alarmed privacy advocates since its existence was leaked last year, according to senior administration officials.

Under the proposal, they said, the N.S.A. would end its systematic collection of data about Americans’ calling habits. The bulk records would stay in the hands of phone companies, which would not be required to retain the data for any longer than they normally would. And the N.S.A. could obtain specific records only with permission from a judge, using a new kind of court order.

In a speech in January, President Obama said he wanted to get the N.S.A. out of the business of collecting call records in bulk while preserving the program’s abilities. He acknowledged, however, that there was no easy way to do so, and had instructed Justice Department and intelligence officials to come up with a plan by March 28 — Friday — when the current court order authorizing the program expires.

As part of the proposal, the administration has decided to ask the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to renew the program as it exists for at least one more 90-day cycle, senior administration officials said. But under the plan the administration has developed and now advocates, the officials said, it would later undergo major changes.

The new type of surveillance court orders envisioned by the administration would require phone companies to swiftly provide records in a technologically compatible data format, including making available, on a continuing basis, data about any new calls placed or received after the order is received, the officials said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/25/us/obama-to-seek-nsa-curb-on-call-data.html?_r=0
9 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Obama to Call for End to N.S.A.’s Bulk Data Collection (Original Post) boxman15 Mar 2014 OP
He wants to extend it as is, then 'reform' it some other day... Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #1
Yes, how would you do it? elias7 Mar 2014 #3
1. Let it end 2. Order the collected information destroyed 3. Prosecute those who violated the law. Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #7
'— if approved by Congress —' They passed this stuff, they can change it. Call them on it. n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #2
Seems like more of the same Jesus Malverde Mar 2014 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #5
Constantly cleaning up the GOPs shit storm. JaneyVee Mar 2014 #6
This would be real progress. Vattel Mar 2014 #8
Bob Newhart "Stop it!" "Just stop it!" L0oniX Mar 2014 #9
 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
1. He wants to extend it as is, then 'reform' it some other day...
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 12:33 AM
Mar 2014

And we are expected to pretend that this is progress.

elias7

(4,026 posts)
3. Yes, how would you do it?
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 07:58 AM
Mar 2014

If you were president, knowing the pros and cons of the program, knowing the complexities of lawmaking, how would you go about doing it? Obviously not the way Obama is doing it...

 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
7. 1. Let it end 2. Order the collected information destroyed 3. Prosecute those who violated the law.
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 10:14 AM
Mar 2014

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
4. Seems like more of the same
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 08:01 AM
Mar 2014

Except now the telco's will keep the data and the NSA and others will troll it with blanket warrants and pay the telcos for the privilege.

Response to boxman15 (Original post)

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
8. This would be real progress.
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 10:31 AM
Mar 2014

Part of the problem has been that the NSA has had access to all of this stuff and the FISA court has had to take their word for it that they have not been looking at it without reasonable suspicion that it is relevant to an investigation. The FISA court has complained that the NSA has not been trustworthy and has misrepresented its activities to the court on many occasions.

The new system would mean that the NSA would need to go through the courts to get access to any of the data. That is a huge improvement!

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Obama to Call for End to ...