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Great. Kick the people getting laid off: SCOTUS Rules Severance Payments Are Taxable (Original Post) kpete Mar 2014 OP
Does it also apply to Golden Parachutes? el_bryanto Mar 2014 #1
Anything under 250k should not be taxed seveneyes Mar 2014 #2
Agreed! Xyzse Mar 2014 #7
Maybe anything under $2000, but $250,000 is insane... Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #11
We are talking about severance pay only seveneyes Mar 2014 #20
If someone is handing you a check for $250K, YOU ARE 1% RICH. nt Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #21
Not after paying the bills and no more money coming in seveneyes Mar 2014 #23
You must be very successful. Well done. nt Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #24
I was laid off twice from large companies during my career... MANative Mar 2014 #3
I was laid off in 2010 here in Georgia, received $10,000 RebelOne Mar 2014 #19
Why the heck wouldn't they be? It's income. cthulu2016 Mar 2014 #4
Indeed. n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2014 #15
8-0 decision (with Kagan recused) onenote Mar 2014 #5
SCOTUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111 bigwillq Mar 2014 #17
Why is this a surprise? theboss Mar 2014 #6
Unemployment benefits are taxed exboyfil Mar 2014 #8
I got a couple weeks of unemployement 5 years ago tammywammy Mar 2014 #14
Why wouldn't they be taxed? vi5 Mar 2014 #9
This was a very technical case. former9thward Mar 2014 #10
That makes sense. n/t tammywammy Mar 2014 #13
So that SCOTUS ruled that income is subject to income tax? Orrex Mar 2014 #12
This is misleading. The case involved Social Security and Medicare Taxes. PoliticAverse Mar 2014 #16
Why create another tax loophole Token Republican Mar 2014 #18
Sad, the SCOTUS is becoming nothing more than a rich man's ATM. Rex Mar 2014 #22

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
1. Does it also apply to Golden Parachutes?
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 10:21 AM
Mar 2014

Say a CEO runs a company into the ground and walks away with a Severance package that rewards him handsomely?

Bryant

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
2. Anything under 250k should not be taxed
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 10:22 AM
Mar 2014

I'm sure society will survive if a few unemployed people get a leg up in life.

 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
11. Maybe anything under $2000, but $250,000 is insane...
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 10:56 AM
Mar 2014

If the typical American started saving a hundred a month (something most cannot begin to do) it would take them a couple hundred YEARS to save the amount you want to be tax free. To hell with tax free, the government aught to impound the money and use it to feed our kids or something.

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
20. We are talking about severance pay only
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 12:30 PM
Mar 2014

Not recurring income. Anyone getting the boot in these times needs all the money they can retain from their previous employment. To hell with taxing the non-rich unemployed.

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
23. Not after paying the bills and no more money coming in
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 01:58 PM
Mar 2014

250k is just the upper limit. Reality is a few grand for severance and taxing the money needed to sustain you is cruel. It's bad enough to get laid off, giving 1/3 of your severance adds even more unneeded stress.

MANative

(4,112 posts)
3. I was laid off twice from large companies during my career...
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 10:26 AM
Mar 2014

I got a six-month pay severance from each. Both times, it was taxed as ordinary income. I don't think this is anything new.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
19. I was laid off in 2010 here in Georgia, received $10,000
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 12:30 PM
Mar 2014

in severance and it was taxed. I was also laid off a job in 1989 in Miami. I received 6 months severance and also paid tax on that. I don't understand why people are complaining because from my experience, it has always been taxed as income.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
8. Unemployment benefits are taxed
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 10:34 AM
Mar 2014

as regular income as well. I thought that was a little unusual when I was terminated in 1992 and furloughed in 2002.

My six weeks of severance for six years of employment was also taxed in 1992. Social Security was withheld from it as well.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
14. I got a couple weeks of unemployement 5 years ago
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 11:10 AM
Mar 2014

There was a threshold you had to break before they counted the unemployement as income. I only received two weeks, so I was well under that level. I don't know if that was just a temporary measure during the recession, or if it's a permanent fixture now.

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
9. Why wouldn't they be taxed?
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 10:43 AM
Mar 2014

Severance plans are income. It's bascially a salary despite not being required to actually work. It's no unemployment. If people can find jobs they can collect severance and their new salary.

The issue is more making sure unemployment is still strong and available and everything else for those whose severance runs out and can't find a job. I would always have assumed severance plans were taxed.

former9thward

(32,061 posts)
10. This was a very technical case.
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 10:44 AM
Mar 2014

The 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that the Quality Stores severance payments to former employees were not wages, and therefore were not taxable under FICA.

One part of the tax code defines wages as "all remuneration for employment." So by that standard severance would be taxable. But in a different section of the code, "supplemental unemployment benefits" are exempted from income taxes. Quality Stores which is bankrupt argued that its severance payments are exempt from FICA taxes according to the "SUB payments" definition. The Supreme Court said it was wages not supplemental unemployment benefits and therefore taxable.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
16. This is misleading. The case involved Social Security and Medicare Taxes.
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 11:58 AM
Mar 2014

Not the general taxability as income.

(That is, whether severance payments are also subject to FICA)

See: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/25/us-usa-court-taxes-idUSBREA2O11R20140325

 

Token Republican

(242 posts)
18. Why create another tax loophole
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 12:01 PM
Mar 2014

All income should be taxed.

Severance pay is income. Its compensation.

If it were tax free, don't you think the wealthy would find a way to abuse it?

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
22. Sad, the SCOTUS is becoming nothing more than a rich man's ATM.
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 01:54 PM
Mar 2014

Their 2000 decision destroyed the courts integrity imo.

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