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PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 12:06 PM Mar 2014

Supreme Court rules (8-0) severance payments are subject to FICA tax.

(Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court ruled on Tuesday that taxes are due for Social Security and Medicare on severance packages paid to workers who are laid off involuntarily, overturning a lower court ruling that could have triggered a wave of payroll tax refund requests from U.S. businesses.

In a win for the Obama administration and the U.S. Internal Revenue Service, the court voted 8-0 that Quality Stores Inc., a defunct Midwest-based retailer, and its employees are not entitled to tax refunds totaling about $1 million.

The tax refund at issue was small, but the IRS said the stakes in the case were huge because, if Quality Stores had won, thousands more refund claims could have resulted, possibly totaling as much as $1 billion.

The dispute centered on whether severance paid to involuntarily terminated workers was taxable under the Federal Insurance Contributions Act tax, or FICA, which helps pay for Social Security retirement pensions and Medicare health insurance for the aged. FICA tax is paid by a company and its employees.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/25/us-usa-court-taxes-idUSBREA2O11R20140325

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Supreme Court rules (8-0) severance payments are subject to FICA tax. (Original Post) PoliticAverse Mar 2014 OP
it's income isnt it? leftyohiolib Mar 2014 #1
Yes, but is it earned income? That was the question. Lasher Mar 2014 #2
i guess it depends on what they mean by earn income leftyohiolib Mar 2014 #3
Earned income is wages as defined by Federal Insurance Contributions Act (FICA) Lasher Mar 2014 #4
Are bonuses considered earned income. aikoaiko Mar 2014 #5
Mine are. n/t FSogol Mar 2014 #6
Yes. Lasher Mar 2014 #7
Yes, FICA is applied to bonuses. n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2014 #9
seems pretty clear i wondr why did this go to court? leftyohiolib Mar 2014 #8
I will hazard a guess. Lasher Mar 2014 #11
this from the people against frivolus lawsuits? i thought you had to have standing to go to court leftyohiolib Mar 2014 #12
I never knew this was even an issue. ananda Mar 2014 #10

Lasher

(27,629 posts)
2. Yes, but is it earned income? That was the question.
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 12:36 PM
Mar 2014

The SCOTUS just decided it is earned income, and therefore subject to FICA taxes.

Lasher

(27,629 posts)
4. Earned income is wages as defined by Federal Insurance Contributions Act (FICA)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 01:38 PM
Mar 2014

Examples of unearned income include Social Security retirement checks, retirement IRA withdrawals, and stock/bond dividends. Unearned income is not subject to FICA taxes.

 

leftyohiolib

(5,917 posts)
8. seems pretty clear i wondr why did this go to court?
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:53 PM
Mar 2014

Taxable earned income includes:
Wages, salaries, tips, and other taxable employee pay;
Union strike benefits;
Long-term disability benefits received prior to minimum retirement age;
Net earnings from self-employment if:
You own or operate a business or a farm or
You are a minister or member of a religious order (see Special Rules page for more information);

Lasher

(27,629 posts)
11. I will hazard a guess.
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:00 PM
Mar 2014

I'd say it was bankrolled by rich people who don't want to pay any taxes. Grover Norquist and his ilk comes to mind. Awash with cash, these folks have plenty of resources to roll the dice if there is even the slightest chance of success.

 

leftyohiolib

(5,917 posts)
12. this from the people against frivolus lawsuits? i thought you had to have standing to go to court
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:22 PM
Mar 2014

since it all seem defined i dont know how it got there. i mean i understand it was backed by big money but no one was harmed

ananda

(28,873 posts)
10. I never knew this was even an issue.
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:56 PM
Mar 2014

The last severance check I remember came with FICA and Medicare already
deducted; and that was that.

I never even questioned it.

I should add that my leaving the job was mutually agreed on. I'd been
wanting out of it for awhile. But even if it were involuntary, I still
wouldn't have questioned the taxes.

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