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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums'Stirring' photos depict the 1950s lives of slave descendants living on a remote island
cut off from the U.S. mainlandThese black-and-white photographs show the residents of a long-isolated island off the east coast of the United States.
Inhabited by the descendants of slaves, Daufuskie Island is just three miles from the U.S. mainland, but the island has no bridge and had no electricity until the 1950s.
The pictures were taken by Jeanne Moutoussamy-Ashe, the wife of the late tennis player Arthur Ashe, during visits to the island between 1977 and 1981.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2588693/Time-capsule-photos-depict-1950s-lives-slave-ancestors-living-remote-island-cut-U-S-mainland.html
Fascinating article. I had never heard of this island.
aikoaiko
(34,183 posts)Shrimp, blue crab, corn, sausage, and beer.
There are parts of Daufuskie that are unchanged from the time of those photos, but there is also high-end development.
There are two golf courses, but one closed down. Its just as well that the rich stay on Hilton Head.
And yet one of my lotto fantasies involves renovating one of the debilitated houses on the island.
Beacool
(30,250 posts)It would be a shame if the island lost its history.
BTW, that meal sounded delightful. I can see myself enjoying it on a lazy summer day. Glorious.....
Xithras
(16,191 posts)When the resorts came in, the investors snapped up everything they could. You really would need to hit the lotto to buy up any land there now.
Beacool
(30,250 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)during the 07-08 Crash. The latest I saw was that they closed down one of the two golf courses but I don't know if one of the hedge funds invested in the island since the crash and maybe the prices have come back a bit. It's so hard to get there...you'd really want privacy to live full time out there. But, it's beautiful for a day trip.
Behind the Aegis
(53,968 posts)I had to use a translator because the great-grandmother only spoke Gullah. It was surreal in some ways because she was very "traditional" in the way she interacted with white people. There are few people who still speak the language and it is destined to die shortly, which is sad. You can find children's books in the Market in Charleston which teach Gullah with African folktales.
Beacool
(30,250 posts)"Because of a period of relative isolation in rural areas, the Gullah developed a culture that has preserved much of their African linguistic and cultural heritage from various peoples, as well as absorbing new influences from the region. They speak an English-based creole language containing many African loanwords and influenced by African languages in grammar and sentence structure. Properly referred to as "Sea Island Creole," the Gullah language is related to Jamaican Patois, Barbadian Dialect, Bahamian Dialect, Trinidadian Creole,Belizean Creole and the Krio language of Sierra Leone in West Africa. Gullah storytelling, rice-based cuisine, music, folk beliefs, crafts, farming, and fishing traditions all exhibit strong influences from West and Central African cultures."
When you were in college, was that a long time ago? I wonder how many people still speak it. It's a shame to lose one's history. I was talking yesterday to a Jewish friend and she was commenting that almost no one speaks Yiddish anymore. It's becoming a lost language.
Behind the Aegis
(53,968 posts)This was probably 89-90 because I was a RA (resident assistant) and was helping direct people to their residence halls. When I first heard her speak, I assumed it was a deep accent. I am born and bred Southern, with the accent to match, but there are parts of the South where the accents are extremely deep as to be almost unintelligible. Southern accents vary from state to state, and region to region. When we lived in New Orleans, I was identifiably Southern, but not of Louisiana extraction. Gullah sounds really fast, but it is mainly because the words flow into one another. I used to know a few words, but have since forgot them.
Yiddish is definitely dying as well. On my dad's side of the family, his age and younger, don't know Yiddish. Their parents refused to teach them. They wanted their children to be "Americans" and not Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians, Poles, etc. My grandparents and that generation all spoke Yiddish fluently. Yiddish is still somewhat popular in Eastern Europe, but I don't know to what extent.
Beacool
(30,250 posts)I wonder if anyone still speaks it. Pity that these two languages are dying. Some of the native Americans languages are also in danger of becoming extinct. It's a shame.
Behind the Aegis
(53,968 posts)There is an upsurge in those interested in dying languages of their respective cultures. While living in New Orleans, there was commercial after commercial for lessons on learning French Creole. There were classes to learn Cajun. There are commercials here in Oklahoma in Cherokee, Delaware, and Pawnee. There are a number of drives to teach the community those languages. Even Ladino (though not entirely accurate, think: Spanish/Arabic Yiddish) is having a revival of sorts in Israel and some Jewish communities in the US, Spain, Portugal, Greece, and Turkey. Israel and Turkey officially recognize it as a language.
This is not the best, but it was the one I could find the most easily; here is Gullah (you need Quicktime to hear): http://gullahtours.com/gullah/hear-and-read-gullah
Beacool
(30,250 posts)Thanks for all the information.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)Somehow, it got lent to someone and never returned, or lost in a move; we used to play it all the time years ago, over and over. But it was sort of fake Gullah: tales told by a folklorist for whom it had not been anything close to a native language.
My husband is a native of Charleston, and his relatives claimed that when he was a little boy, he spoke mainly Gullah. His mother (a single, divorced woman) ran a five-and-dime store, and would bring her young son there while she worked all day. Since the clientele was mostly people from the islands, these were the main people he interacted with. When I met him, 20 years later, when we were both students in New York, he still fell into some expressions at times. He would speak to our dog: whachou be doin' heah wit yo bad sef? (Note: he's not from the sea islands; he's a white Jewish boy from town!)
At any rate, back in the early 1970s or so, when we were down there, I asked my husband to take me to hear some real Gullah. He said we should drive out to Jim Island (the local name for James Island)or now that I think of it, it was maybe Wadmalaw, or Johns Island. At any rate, we kept driving and eventually got hopelessly lost, with not a soul in sight to ask. We finally pulled over and, like something out of a novel, an extremely tall, elegant, but very country black man appeared as if out of nowhere. We jumped out of the car to ask him directions ... and, OMG! I couldn't understand a single word of what he was saying! But it was a beautiful, singsong creole, in a deep basso, wondrous to encounter. I was happy that, finally, by accident, I'd gotten to hear some real Gullah.
Beacool
(30,250 posts)Now I'm curious to hear it spoken. I wonder if there any recordings out there that one can listen to.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Last edited Wed Mar 26, 2014, 11:15 AM - Edit history (1)
's I grew up around there...Xithras
(16,191 posts)It's a common story. Developers built a couple of resorts and golf courses on the island and property values went through the roof. The residents who owned their land mostly sold their properties and dispersed onto the mainland. Those who didn't own the land were just chased out by landlords and higher prices. There are still a few left today, but not many.
Jimmy Buffett wrote a song about the island back in the early 1990's mourning the loss of its history (I only know that because my mom is a HUGE Buffett fan, and I've probably heard the song 50 times).
Beacool
(30,250 posts)I hate when urbanization destroys places like this island. Some area should be preserved for historical purposes.
Hosnon
(7,800 posts)I am (well was) a huge Parrothead about a decade ago and have never heard this. What song? Being from the region, I would LOVE to put this together...
Xithras
(16,191 posts)The name of the song is The Prince of Tides.
I could hum the tune off the top of my head, but I had to look up the title and album.
Some of the lyrics:
African drums are silent and the Wingos
are poets at last
Out on Dafuskie Island, the bulldozers
bury the past
And the low country sinks, she cannot swim
the dogwood feels the hurt
While the foursome plays on borrowed days in
their alligator shirts
Now I realize who killed the Prince of Tides
How can you tell how it used to be
When there's nothing left to see
Baitball Blogger
(46,753 posts)livetohike
(22,156 posts)One of my favorites .
Beacool
(30,250 posts)cordelia
(2,174 posts)I hope you enjoy it.
Beacool
(30,250 posts)raccoon
(31,112 posts)Pat Conroy wrote the book about his teaching experiences there in the 1960's. That's how he "broke through" as a writer.
Edited to add: Ah, somebody beat me by 2 minutes!
Beacool
(30,250 posts)Thanks to both of you.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Last edited Wed Mar 26, 2014, 10:45 AM - Edit history (2)
I might look for it myself to rewatch. As I remember it captured that time very well. I grew up in the Lowcountry (which that area of SC/GA Coast is called) and most of us had a very different accent because of the Gullah influence in our culture which was mostly agricultural.
Beacool
(30,250 posts)I'll see if I find the movie. Netflix should have it.
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)malaise
(269,144 posts)Just sent this to a friend who is an expert on creole languages.
Beacool
(30,250 posts)I'm going to do more research on this island. Unfortunately, it appears that developers have gotten to it and much of the old ways are disappearing.
Hosnon
(7,800 posts)It's very close to Hilton Head but accessible only by water taxi.
An unfortunate "legend" around that area is that "Daufuskie" is a bastardization of "The First Key".
Beacool
(30,250 posts)I think that I may try to plan a trip around that part of the country. I don't know that area at all.
Hosnon
(7,800 posts)Beacool
(30,250 posts)Charleston too.
Hosnon
(7,800 posts)Beacool
(30,250 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)Should be some good photos and info on the travel sites.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Last edited Wed Mar 26, 2014, 10:56 AM - Edit history (1)
Hosnon
(7,800 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)"the first key" would be pronounced in Gullah. I used to be able to speak it pretty well...but having not lived there in so long...I only could speak it again if I was around others to pick it back up.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)It 's overwhelming with Lowcountry Islands (voodoo) and Savannah atmosphere .. It was a best seller and there was a movie made that was pretty accurate to the book. Should definitely put you in the mood for that trip down there.
Here is the Amazon Link and reviews:
http://www.amazon.com/Midnight-Garden-Good-Evil-Savannah/dp/0679751521
Beacool
(30,250 posts)I read a lot more, I was a veritable bookworm, when I was not so involved with the internet. I must confess that I spend more time now on the internet than reading books.