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Beacool

(30,250 posts)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:39 PM Mar 2014

'Stirring' photos depict the 1950s lives of slave descendants living on a remote island

cut off from the U.S. mainland

These black-and-white photographs show the residents of a long-isolated island off the east coast of the United States.

Inhabited by the descendants of slaves, Daufuskie Island is just three miles from the U.S. mainland, but the island has no bridge and had no electricity until the 1950s.

The pictures were taken by Jeanne Moutoussamy-Ashe, the wife of the late tennis player Arthur Ashe, during visits to the island between 1977 and 1981.







http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2588693/Time-capsule-photos-depict-1950s-lives-slave-ancestors-living-remote-island-cut-U-S-mainland.html

Fascinating article. I had never heard of this island.

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'Stirring' photos depict the 1950s lives of slave descendants living on a remote island (Original Post) Beacool Mar 2014 OP
Ive visited Daufuskie with friends who have old family land there. aikoaiko Mar 2014 #1
I hope that it doesn't become overdeveloped. Beacool Mar 2014 #4
Most are owned by investors. Xithras Mar 2014 #6
What a shame!!! Beacool Mar 2014 #9
One of the Golf Clubs went bankrupt and the prices crashed from the peak KoKo Mar 2014 #37
I met a few of the inhabitants when they dropped their granddaughter off at college. Behind the Aegis Mar 2014 #2
Thanks for the link, I had never heard the term "Gullah". Beacool Mar 2014 #7
I started college in the late 80's Behind the Aegis Mar 2014 #10
So Gullah was still spoken in the early 90s. Beacool Mar 2014 #19
It is still spoken today, but by very few people. Behind the Aegis Mar 2014 #21
I'm glad that there's an effort being made by people to preserve their culture Beacool Mar 2014 #22
We used to have a Gullah LP frazzled Mar 2014 #13
Loved your anecdote. Beacool Mar 2014 #20
Thanks for sharing that! KoKo Mar 2014 #35
Sadly, as most Jimmy Buffett fans know, there are few of them left on the island today. Xithras Mar 2014 #3
I hope that they can save some of the island from the developers. Beacool Mar 2014 #8
Wait, really? Hosnon Mar 2014 #24
I was a little off. It was on the Hot Water album in 1988 Xithras Mar 2014 #40
Very, very cool. Baitball Blogger Mar 2014 #5
Pat Conroy's book The Water is Wide is based on his time as a teacher on the island. livetohike Mar 2014 #11
Thank you, I'm going to have to check it out. Beacool Mar 2014 #14
I plan on re-reading it. cordelia Mar 2014 #38
Thanks. Beacool Mar 2014 #41
The movie "Conrack" took place there. The book was called THE WATER IS WIDE. raccoon Mar 2014 #12
Livetohike mentioned the book, I didn't know that there was a movie too. Beacool Mar 2014 #15
The movie is great watch...if you can find it.. KoKo Mar 2014 #28
The rich variety of cultures is fascinating, isn't it? Beacool Mar 2014 #30
Wow. That's fascinating. n/t DirkGently Mar 2014 #16
Lovely malaise Mar 2014 #17
I love history. Beacool Mar 2014 #18
Daufuskie is a beautiful island. Hosnon Mar 2014 #23
I've never been to Hilton Head either. Beacool Mar 2014 #25
It really is gorgeous. Both islands are very close to Savannah. nt. Hosnon Mar 2014 #26
Another city that I would love to visit. Beacool Mar 2014 #27
Sounds like someone needs to plan a low country vacation! nt. Hosnon Mar 2014 #29
Exactly!!! Beacool Mar 2014 #32
Love Hilton Head and Savannah. KoKo Mar 2014 #31
That would be Gullah.."duh-fust-key" So it's probably true... KoKo Mar 2014 #33
It means "Land with a Point". nt. Hosnon Mar 2014 #34
That may well be...but just giving an example of how KoKo Mar 2014 #39
Beacool...you definitely have to read "Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil" KoKo Mar 2014 #36
That's one book that I meant to read and never got around to it. Beacool Mar 2014 #42

aikoaiko

(34,183 posts)
1. Ive visited Daufuskie with friends who have old family land there.
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:48 PM
Mar 2014

Shrimp, blue crab, corn, sausage, and beer.

There are parts of Daufuskie that are unchanged from the time of those photos, but there is also high-end development.

There are two golf courses, but one closed down. Its just as well that the rich stay on Hilton Head.

And yet one of my lotto fantasies involves renovating one of the debilitated houses on the island.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
4. I hope that it doesn't become overdeveloped.
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:52 PM
Mar 2014

It would be a shame if the island lost its history.

BTW, that meal sounded delightful. I can see myself enjoying it on a lazy summer day. Glorious.....

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
6. Most are owned by investors.
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:54 PM
Mar 2014

When the resorts came in, the investors snapped up everything they could. You really would need to hit the lotto to buy up any land there now.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
37. One of the Golf Clubs went bankrupt and the prices crashed from the peak
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 10:40 AM
Mar 2014

during the 07-08 Crash. The latest I saw was that they closed down one of the two golf courses but I don't know if one of the hedge funds invested in the island since the crash and maybe the prices have come back a bit. It's so hard to get there...you'd really want privacy to live full time out there. But, it's beautiful for a day trip.

Behind the Aegis

(53,968 posts)
2. I met a few of the inhabitants when they dropped their granddaughter off at college.
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:49 PM
Mar 2014

I had to use a translator because the great-grandmother only spoke Gullah. It was surreal in some ways because she was very "traditional" in the way she interacted with white people. There are few people who still speak the language and it is destined to die shortly, which is sad. You can find children's books in the Market in Charleston which teach Gullah with African folktales.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
7. Thanks for the link, I had never heard the term "Gullah".
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:58 PM
Mar 2014

"Because of a period of relative isolation in rural areas, the Gullah developed a culture that has preserved much of their African linguistic and cultural heritage from various peoples, as well as absorbing new influences from the region. They speak an English-based creole language containing many African loanwords and influenced by African languages in grammar and sentence structure. Properly referred to as "Sea Island Creole," the Gullah language is related to Jamaican Patois, Barbadian Dialect, Bahamian Dialect, Trinidadian Creole,Belizean Creole and the Krio language of Sierra Leone in West Africa. Gullah storytelling, rice-based cuisine, music, folk beliefs, crafts, farming, and fishing traditions all exhibit strong influences from West and Central African cultures."

When you were in college, was that a long time ago? I wonder how many people still speak it. It's a shame to lose one's history. I was talking yesterday to a Jewish friend and she was commenting that almost no one speaks Yiddish anymore. It's becoming a lost language.

Behind the Aegis

(53,968 posts)
10. I started college in the late 80's
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 04:09 PM
Mar 2014

This was probably 89-90 because I was a RA (resident assistant) and was helping direct people to their residence halls. When I first heard her speak, I assumed it was a deep accent. I am born and bred Southern, with the accent to match, but there are parts of the South where the accents are extremely deep as to be almost unintelligible. Southern accents vary from state to state, and region to region. When we lived in New Orleans, I was identifiably Southern, but not of Louisiana extraction. Gullah sounds really fast, but it is mainly because the words flow into one another. I used to know a few words, but have since forgot them.

Yiddish is definitely dying as well. On my dad's side of the family, his age and younger, don't know Yiddish. Their parents refused to teach them. They wanted their children to be "Americans" and not Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians, Poles, etc. My grandparents and that generation all spoke Yiddish fluently. Yiddish is still somewhat popular in Eastern Europe, but I don't know to what extent.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
19. So Gullah was still spoken in the early 90s.
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 11:47 PM
Mar 2014

I wonder if anyone still speaks it. Pity that these two languages are dying. Some of the native Americans languages are also in danger of becoming extinct. It's a shame.

Behind the Aegis

(53,968 posts)
21. It is still spoken today, but by very few people.
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 12:55 AM
Mar 2014

There is an upsurge in those interested in dying languages of their respective cultures. While living in New Orleans, there was commercial after commercial for lessons on learning French Creole. There were classes to learn Cajun. There are commercials here in Oklahoma in Cherokee, Delaware, and Pawnee. There are a number of drives to teach the community those languages. Even Ladino (though not entirely accurate, think: Spanish/Arabic Yiddish) is having a revival of sorts in Israel and some Jewish communities in the US, Spain, Portugal, Greece, and Turkey. Israel and Turkey officially recognize it as a language.

This is not the best, but it was the one I could find the most easily; here is Gullah (you need Quicktime to hear): http://gullahtours.com/gullah/hear-and-read-gullah

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
22. I'm glad that there's an effort being made by people to preserve their culture
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 09:29 AM
Mar 2014

Thanks for all the information.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
13. We used to have a Gullah LP
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 05:43 PM
Mar 2014

Somehow, it got lent to someone and never returned, or lost in a move; we used to play it all the time years ago, over and over. But it was sort of fake Gullah: tales told by a folklorist for whom it had not been anything close to a native language.

My husband is a native of Charleston, and his relatives claimed that when he was a little boy, he spoke mainly Gullah. His mother (a single, divorced woman) ran a five-and-dime store, and would bring her young son there while she worked all day. Since the clientele was mostly people from the islands, these were the main people he interacted with. When I met him, 20 years later, when we were both students in New York, he still fell into some expressions at times. He would speak to our dog: whachou be doin' heah wit yo bad sef? (Note: he's not from the sea islands; he's a white Jewish boy from town!)

At any rate, back in the early 1970s or so, when we were down there, I asked my husband to take me to hear some real Gullah. He said we should drive out to Jim Island (the local name for James Island)—or now that I think of it, it was maybe Wadmalaw, or Johns Island. At any rate, we kept driving and eventually got hopelessly lost, with not a soul in sight to ask. We finally pulled over and, like something out of a novel, an extremely tall, elegant, but very country black man appeared as if out of nowhere. We jumped out of the car to ask him directions ... and, OMG! I couldn't understand a single word of what he was saying! But it was a beautiful, singsong creole, in a deep basso, wondrous to encounter. I was happy that, finally, by accident, I'd gotten to hear some real Gullah.



Beacool

(30,250 posts)
20. Loved your anecdote.
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 11:49 PM
Mar 2014

Now I'm curious to hear it spoken. I wonder if there any recordings out there that one can listen to.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
3. Sadly, as most Jimmy Buffett fans know, there are few of them left on the island today.
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:52 PM
Mar 2014

It's a common story. Developers built a couple of resorts and golf courses on the island and property values went through the roof. The residents who owned their land mostly sold their properties and dispersed onto the mainland. Those who didn't own the land were just chased out by landlords and higher prices. There are still a few left today, but not many.

Jimmy Buffett wrote a song about the island back in the early 1990's mourning the loss of its history (I only know that because my mom is a HUGE Buffett fan, and I've probably heard the song 50 times).

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
8. I hope that they can save some of the island from the developers.
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 04:01 PM
Mar 2014

I hate when urbanization destroys places like this island. Some area should be preserved for historical purposes.

Hosnon

(7,800 posts)
24. Wait, really?
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 10:04 AM
Mar 2014

I am (well was) a huge Parrothead about a decade ago and have never heard this. What song? Being from the region, I would LOVE to put this together...

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
40. I was a little off. It was on the Hot Water album in 1988
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 02:01 PM
Mar 2014

The name of the song is The Prince of Tides.

I could hum the tune off the top of my head, but I had to look up the title and album.

Some of the lyrics:

African drums are silent and the Wingos
are poets at last
Out on Dafuskie Island, the bulldozers
bury the past
And the low country sinks, she cannot swim
the dogwood feels the hurt
While the foursome plays on borrowed days in
their alligator shirts

Now I realize who killed the Prince of Tides
How can you tell how it used to be
When there's nothing left to see

livetohike

(22,156 posts)
11. Pat Conroy's book The Water is Wide is based on his time as a teacher on the island.
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 04:16 PM
Mar 2014

One of my favorites .

raccoon

(31,112 posts)
12. The movie "Conrack" took place there. The book was called THE WATER IS WIDE.
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 04:18 PM
Mar 2014

Pat Conroy wrote the book about his teaching experiences there in the 1960's. That's how he "broke through" as a writer.

Edited to add: Ah, somebody beat me by 2 minutes!



KoKo

(84,711 posts)
28. The movie is great watch...if you can find it..
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 10:13 AM
Mar 2014

Last edited Wed Mar 26, 2014, 10:45 AM - Edit history (2)

I might look for it myself to rewatch. As I remember it captured that time very well. I grew up in the Lowcountry (which that area of SC/GA Coast is called) and most of us had a very different accent because of the Gullah influence in our culture which was mostly agricultural.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
30. The rich variety of cultures is fascinating, isn't it?
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 10:14 AM
Mar 2014

I'll see if I find the movie. Netflix should have it.



Beacool

(30,250 posts)
18. I love history.
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 07:52 PM
Mar 2014

I'm going to do more research on this island. Unfortunately, it appears that developers have gotten to it and much of the old ways are disappearing.

Hosnon

(7,800 posts)
23. Daufuskie is a beautiful island.
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 10:03 AM
Mar 2014

It's very close to Hilton Head but accessible only by water taxi.

An unfortunate "legend" around that area is that "Daufuskie" is a bastardization of "The First Key".

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
25. I've never been to Hilton Head either.
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 10:07 AM
Mar 2014

I think that I may try to plan a trip around that part of the country. I don't know that area at all.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
39. That may well be...but just giving an example of how
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 10:50 AM
Mar 2014

"the first key" would be pronounced in Gullah. I used to be able to speak it pretty well...but having not lived there in so long...I only could speak it again if I was around others to pick it back up.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
36. Beacool...you definitely have to read "Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil"
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 10:31 AM
Mar 2014


It 's overwhelming with Lowcountry Islands (voodoo) and Savannah atmosphere .. It was a best seller and there was a movie made that was pretty accurate to the book. Should definitely put you in the mood for that trip down there.

Here is the Amazon Link and reviews:

http://www.amazon.com/Midnight-Garden-Good-Evil-Savannah/dp/0679751521

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
42. That's one book that I meant to read and never got around to it.
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 02:04 PM
Mar 2014

I read a lot more, I was a veritable bookworm, when I was not so involved with the internet. I must confess that I spend more time now on the internet than reading books.

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