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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 09:45 AM Mar 2012

Bernanke: Job gains present economic 'puzzle'

http://money.cnn.com/2012/03/26/news/economy/bernanke-federal-reserve/index.htm?cnn=yes

WASHINGTON (CNNMoney) -- Stronger job growth has brought "good news" recently, but overall, it remains "out of sync" with the modest growth of the U.S. economy, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said Monday.

"The improvement in the labor market over the past year--especially the decline in the unemployment rate--has been faster than might have been expected, given that the economy during that time appears to have grown at a relatively modest pace," Bernanke told the National Association for Business Economics, Monday.

Government numbers show the U.S. economy has added more than 200,000 jobs each month since January, and the unemployment rate has fallen to 8.3% from 9% in just five months. Meanwhile, the U.S. economy has been growing relatively slowly, most recently at a mere 3% annual pace.

Bernanke called those figures a 'puzzle.' For the unemployment rate to fall that significantly, the economy should have been growing much more quickly.
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Bernanke: Job gains present economic 'puzzle' (Original Post) xchrom Mar 2012 OP
It's not surprising to me Cirque du So-What Mar 2012 #1
+1 Dawson Leery Mar 2012 #4
Free Money CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #2
or maybe less people attempting to find work because of the lack thereof? n/t JesterCS Mar 2012 #3
I guess he wasn't puzzled when the economy was improving but unemployment wasn't? gkhouston Mar 2012 #5
+1 xchrom Mar 2012 #6
this leads me to believe he doesn't have a clue what's going on... KG Mar 2012 #7
Well ... He and others like him do seem xchrom Mar 2012 #8
In fairness... cthulu2016 Mar 2012 #12
You know what really instills confidence in the markets? hughee99 Mar 2012 #9
Pent up demand cthulu2016 Mar 2012 #10
Maybe there has been enough wage destruction to increase the employed TheKentuckian Mar 2012 #11

Cirque du So-What

(25,941 posts)
1. It's not surprising to me
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 09:49 AM
Mar 2012

For too long now, companies have been trying to limp along with the smallest number of employees possible and to postpone purchases until the last possible moment. Even the slightest whiff of an upturn in the economy triggers a chain of events that show companies they MUST hire more people to meet any increase in demand.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
12. In fairness...
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 04:02 PM
Mar 2012

Fed chairs are in an unusual position because their public predictions are not suppossed to accurate, but rather as accurate as possible while roiling business confidence the least.

Rather than read the tea-leaves in public pronouncements it's best to look at actual policy.

Since Bernanke has announced that the Fed funds rate will remain zero into 2014 we know that he believes:

1) There will be no "morning in America" rebound. If there was, it would have been in 2010.

2) Krugman was right. When Krugman published his Japanese liquidity trap paper 10+ years ago then-professor Bernanke agreed with an taught ts conclusions. a) inflation is a necessary part of the solution. b) in a liquidity trap inflation can only develop when the central bank promises inflation... promises to not raise rates when inflation first starts to develop. The problem is that you can print as much money as you want and it won't do a thing as long as market actors believe that the central bank will raise rates if the economy picks up. Since the US Fed as a quasi-political position Bernake cannot announce an inflation target of 3.5% (which would surely encourage borrowing at current rates and decrease the expected value of hoarding money) so the Fed has done the next best thing by promising not rate hikes for a very long time. That at least offers investors a good gambling chance of inflation developing without the Fed acting to nip it in the bud (along with any recovery)

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
9. You know what really instills confidence in the markets?
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 03:44 PM
Mar 2012

A FED chairman who admits he doesn't understand what's going on.

Perhaps the unemployment rate is dropping more significantly than the growth would indicate because you have people dropping off at BOTH ends? Those who find jobs and those whose unemployment has run out and have "stopped looking".

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
10. Pent up demand
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 03:49 PM
Mar 2012

Bernanke is right and it is nice of him not to make the obvious further observation that we will probably also see employment declines that are not in sync with GDP growth. Reversion to the mean. I hope they wait until after November.

The firing frenzy of the first days of the crisis was somewhat like a low inventory phase. If an extrinsic event causes everyone to cut their inventory then the restocking phase is also likely to be all-at-once. Same for hiring.

Everything associated with an event, from a collapse in bank confidence to 9/11 to a tsunami, will be "lumpy" because crisis events put everyone in the economy into sync.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
11. Maybe there has been enough wage destruction to increase the employed
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 03:56 PM
Mar 2012

without equal growth in payrolls and the economy.

Or all the numbers are a bunch of nonsense and/or smoke and mirrors that cannot fit reality.

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