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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 11:54 PM Mar 2014

NYT editorial: 'Mr. Obama's Limits on Phone Records'

Source: New York Times

If President Obama really wants to end the bulk collection of Americans’ telephone records, he doesn’t need to ask the permission of Congress, as he said on Tuesday he would do. He can just end it himself, immediately.

... Ending bulk collection now wouldn’t undermine Mr. Obama’s proposal to Congress. In fact, if his promise is matched by the final details (which are not yet available), it could be an important and positive break from the widespread invasion of privacy secretly practiced by the National Security Agency for years. Getting a law to create strong judicial oversight of data collection would be a check on the ambitions of future presidents. But once the question is tossed into the maelstrom of Congress, where one party routinely opposes anything the president wants, the limits could be delayed, or diluted, or just killed.

... The immediate question, though, is why the president feels he needs to wait for Congress before stopping mass collection. As Mr. Obama said on Tuesday, because of Edward Snowden’s revelations, “we have to win back the trust not just of governments but, more important, of ordinary citizens.” Continuing the current surveillance program while lawmakers argue is not the way to begin winning back the country’s trust.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/26/opinion/mr-obamas-limits-on-phone-records.html

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NYT editorial: 'Mr. Obama's Limits on Phone Records' (Original Post) Newsjock Mar 2014 OP
It's sad how everyone, including the NYT, has to school the "constitutional scholar." PSPS Mar 2014 #1
"just saying this to appear concerned while he runs out the clock" HooptieWagon Mar 2014 #2
If Obama ends the program himself, there will be no pressure for Congress to act, struggle4progress Mar 2014 #3

PSPS

(13,603 posts)
1. It's sad how everyone, including the NYT, has to school the "constitutional scholar."
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 12:36 AM
Mar 2014
If President Obama really wants to end the bulk collection of Americans’ telephone records, he doesn’t need to ask the permission of Congress, as he said on Tuesday he would do. He can just end it himself, immediately.


Basic civics teaches us this but, somehow, our illustrious "constitutional scholar" is oblivious (or he's just saying this to appear concerned while he runs out the clock.)

struggle4progress

(118,295 posts)
3. If Obama ends the program himself, there will be no pressure for Congress to act,
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 02:32 AM
Mar 2014

so Congress will not act: the program will then remain possible, and a future President will be able to restart it as easily as it was stopped

The proper approach today, therefore, is continuing pressure on Congress to end the program

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