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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRW logic: Kids should NOT be taught by parents and law enforcement to scream, punch, kick at adult
strangers who approach them too closely, because if the kid tries to fight them off then the adult stranger will have the right to kill the kid in self defense.
I guess RWers will now be teaching their children to quietly accept whatever an adult stranger has in mind whenever they are approached by one.
They never think about logic in their eagerness to excuse what Zimmmerman did.
Snake Alchemist
(3,318 posts)blm
(113,064 posts)for ANY kid to be comfortable.
You are grasping because you know you have no logical comeback.
Snake Alchemist
(3,318 posts)Since we are making things up.
blm
(113,064 posts)So you've resorted to talking nonsense.
Snake Alchemist
(3,318 posts)blm
(113,064 posts)Zimmerman was somehow OUT of his car when he claims he was assaulted?
How did he get that close to the kid holding a phone who assaulted him?
Did the kid force Zimmerman to get out of his car and follow him just so he could turn around and assault him?
There is NO LOGIC to any claim that Zimmerman was acting in self-defense, especially since kids are TAUGHT from an early age and it is re-inforced throughout their teens that they are to fight any attempt by an adult to get close enough to them to grab them.
Snake Alchemist
(3,318 posts)I like how a 17 yo has now become a 5 yo.
blm
(113,064 posts)conduct protection classes at the schools. You prefer that a 17yo NOT protect themself as taught when approached by an adult stranger?
Gee, Snake, where do YOU draw the line? You have to pretend that the kid holding the phone approached and assaulted the hulking adult. You'd think Mr Wannabe policeman would have said "Don't come near me or I'll shoot" at the skinny kid who was chasing him and assaulting him.
Some reach you need to have there, Snake. I've seen a whole pack of social media moonies are out and about trying to make the exact same case as you. None have shown an ounce of logic in their claims.
Snake Alchemist
(3,318 posts)You could be an invaluable resource.
blm
(113,064 posts)it really has nothing to do with me and everything to do with the logic you need to avoid to maintain your position. Dishonesty only begs for scrutiny and exposure.
Snake Alchemist
(3,318 posts)blm
(113,064 posts)I don't SEE that there is a logical reason based on anything out there so far. My questions for the RWersclaiming that Zimmerman was assaulted remain unanswered.
HOW did a skinny kid talkig on a phone and with NO weapon force a hulking adult WITH a weapon out of his car?
If Zimmerman approached the kid, then at what point does the RW accept that the teen was doing as he'd been taught...to scream, punch and kick the person he felt had come too close to him?
Snake Alchemist
(3,318 posts)No one has the right to assault you if you merely approach them and ask a question. Imagine if this was a woman in Z's place and tell me what the reaction would be.
For all we know, Z grabbed T by the wrist though so we'll have to wait until all the evidence is released.
blm
(113,064 posts)his car he was approaching a young person as a hulking adult. If he got close enough to the kid for the kid to throw a punch than that kid was doing EXACTLY as he'd been taught to do throughout his young life.
The kid had NO record of ever hitting or assaulting anyone did he? You think he'd choose a large man who had been following him with his car and who he said on the phone that he was uncomfortable about it as the first person he planned to assault?
You really have some reach there, Snake. All to absolve the shooter of an unarmed kid. You'd have to believe the phone records were manufactured to excuse what Zimmerman did. But - I'm pretty sure you know Zimmerman shot the kid unfairly but your 'side' is invested in the imagery you need to keep yourself deluded about your country.
Snake Alchemist
(3,318 posts)blm
(113,064 posts)Not unlike the tough corner the RW will often paint themselves into, time and time again just to pretend to themselves that they aren't just assholes.
Snake Alchemist
(3,318 posts)blm
(113,064 posts).
Snake Alchemist
(3,318 posts)You may want to read the entire post.
Snake Alchemist
(3,318 posts)Facts on either side seem to have little bearing.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)If someone follows your kid in a car and then gets out to confront them, do you expect the kid to let himself get assaulted? I think not.
Snake Alchemist
(3,318 posts)If Z's account is accurate. For all I or anyone knows, Z grabbed him first, but I'll wait to hear more.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)Snake Alchemist
(3,318 posts)CatWoman
(79,302 posts)who the fuck goes to bed at 7 p.m.?
you're one sick puppy.....
Snake Alchemist
(3,318 posts)CatWoman
(79,302 posts)a 5 year old Duke Lacrosse player
Snake Alchemist
(3,318 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,365 posts)"Getting out of a car does not entitle you to hit anyone. Please read the police report before
making comments."
http://sanfordfl.gov/investigation/trayvon_martin.html
"Trayvon Martin Investigation"
http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/Twin%20Lakes%20Shooting%20Initial%20Report.pdf
Trayon was shot and killed between 5:17 and 5:30pm, that's hardly late for a 17 year old even if that 17 year old is/was much closer to 16 than 18, date of birth being 2/5.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)Who knew that an evil brown kid would dare be out that late in the darkest of dark hours????
CatWoman
(79,302 posts)it just screams at you......
blm
(113,064 posts).
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Matter of time.
blm
(113,064 posts).
Snake Alchemist
(3,318 posts)You know that only applies when you're a minority. Otherwise, feel free.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)to discredit minorities and protect the right wing laws supporting gun ownership.
Snake Alchemist
(3,318 posts)blm
(113,064 posts)that needs doing is for his defense attorney to explain how it all happened so it can be examined through the LOGIC PRISM that you apparently find uncomfortable.
I would merely BET that the defense attorney will be somewhat uncomfortable himself in that pursuit.
Snake Alchemist
(3,318 posts)Z may be guilty as sin, but I'm willing to consider all the evidence before I start piling on. Especially when it's this emotionally charged.
blm
(113,064 posts)So, please let's not pretend that you are merely 'waiting' as you've reached pretty far already to latch onto the kid 'assaulted' the shooter position.
Snake Alchemist
(3,318 posts)blm
(113,064 posts)parents and law enforcement. Zimmerman did exactly what he was told by law enforcement NOT to do that night.
No honest parent would claim otherwise.
Snake Alchemist
(3,318 posts)Ian David
(69,059 posts)butterfly77
(17,609 posts)if a pedophile approaches a kid,or pretends to be law enforcement. The child should let them have their way.
blm
(113,064 posts)if they did they wouldn't have 99% of their positions, would they?
JVS
(61,935 posts)increase their level of danger. Never try to fight off a grown up, run and seek a grown up you know and trust.
Snake Alchemist
(3,318 posts)blm
(113,064 posts)to attract attention.