support integration of the races.

What a piece of shit.

Is it possible to be used in a way that it is NOT a slur?

There's no honour in having a sporting team named with an ethnic slur for your ethnicity. The owner's an ass.

I do not want to be identified as a racist pig ...

could somehow get all the US senators they deserve, maybe we could get the Redskins caught in the crosswalk.

i don't expect you to care about pedestrian safety
about racially derogatory team names
or about proportional representation being a facet of democracy

you've never indicated caring about any of these issues.

you just wanna keep your light bulbs and the rest of the population be damned.

that is your right. you go!

we all have to care about something and when you're ready to care about people, perhaps one of your posts will reflect that.

But I understand where the activists are coming from. To be truthful, I doubt that the name was chosen out of any real malice or purposeful negative objectification. With that said, though, it does carry plenty of unfortunate connotations. And if the name does change.....it would be a positive thing, if anything at all, TBH.

Not just Americans in general but native American's in general are more interested in things like generational poverty and education than the name of a sports team that predates political correctness. The polls have actually moved slightly towards keeping the name in recent years than away from the name. The answer to who would want to be associated with the name appears to be between 71 and 90 % of the population according to the polling. Which pretty much is the problem. Should the Redskins change their name-yes. Will the Redskins change their name... not with those kind of poll numbers. They have years of marketing wrapped up in that name and they aren't throwing that out until you make it clear to them where it counts, in the pocketbooks, that the name isn't okay. So far people just aren't very convinced about this. I don't know why exactly, but I don't think those polls are a lie.

i didn't realize we can only think of one thing at a time.

I don't know how to make them care. Once again other causes polled really low to begin with too. The numbers on gay marriage moved rather quickly once people understood "tradition" was not a good excuse. Perhaps the best thing for this issue is for a high price free agent to leave the Redskins or refuse to sign due to the name. But once again if you can't convince Native Americans to care, the general public to care then certainly the owner of the team isn't going to care.

Or more to the point he is attacking the issue by offering to tackle poverty and education which once again polls as issues Native American's care about. The owner of the team is not stupid and while most people see his actions as buying off people, other people see it as a man that can read the poll numbers.

is it ok to offend 5%? 10%

how many Native Americans, Indians, tribal members, on-reservation Native Americans and off, how few have you decided make it okay?

what's the threshold you've chosen for it to be acceptable to a group of people that you aren't a part of?

you see... enough to hurt the owner in the wallet where he is vulnerable or else the NFL as a whole as the other owners could likely force him to change. Until that happens these guys feel they can buy off the name by charity funding to Native Americans and there isn't a whole lot in the polling that so far says they can't.

African Americans in the 1950s hurt racists where it counts... in the wallet. The bus boycotts etc... had real economic impacts.

You don't have to convince me as my posts already state: I'm convinced. The general public not so much but many issues start this way.

i think then we can agree that the team shouldn't be deciding the issue for them either.

them also.

then they should drop the name, right?

It's far worse than Cleveland Indians and Atlanta Braves and FSU Seminoles (although their mascot is atrociously racist).

i wouldn't for a moment want people to think i approved or thought a single good thing about the team's name/logo/mascot.

thanks!

sarcasm, and they didn't!

and the Braves were going to use a ridiculous-looking throwback logo on their batting practice caps last year but they quickly cancelled that after receiving such a negative reaction.

I don't really have a problem with Florida State, if the Seminole Tribe supports them then I'm no one to say anything different. I do think they make an honest effort to respect Seminole history and culture even if it's not perfect.

As far as terms though, "Redskins" is definitely the most offensive hands-down.

I was really talking more about the terms themselves...Cleveland really should change that logo...

In fact most of us just say "Indian" in casual conversation.
I am only writing this because DUers tend to be overly sensitive about terminology.
Some leaders like "American" in the name because it is a source of pride that we are the only ethnic group with "American" as the first word.

and I'm more likely to be criticized for using the "Indian" term by white people and DU is more white than anything else.

I try to use the term that as many people as possible understand to be intended to not cause offense or harm.