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kpete

(71,994 posts)
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 09:44 AM Mar 2014

Oooof! Christie Insults Adelson; GOP In Full Panic

Christie Raises Eyebrows With 'Occupied Territories' Remark
Christie
Apologizes To Donor In Private Meeting


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Just when you thought Christie's disastrous week couldn't get any worse, it does. Christie lost the $100,000,000 dollar Sheldon Adelson primary today by insulting him and his guests in Las Vegas.

Adelson, a notorious Likudnik, hosted a number of 2016 hopefuls this afternoon. One after another, they groveled on their knees for Adelson's cash by shamelessly pandering on Middle East policy. But then it happened. Running his big mouth, Christie described the West Bank as.... wait for it... "the occupied territories". Yikes!

Now it doesn't sound like a big deal to a person living in a reality based community. It's merely a neutral descriptive term. But it causes wingnuts on Mid East issues to flip out. They prefer the Orwellian term "disputed territories".

Then making matters worse, one of Adelson's cronies attempted to correct Christie and Christie reflexively bullied him:

Mr. Christie warmly recalled a trip he took with his family to Israel, calling it an extraordinary personal experience. But he touched off disapproving whispers from the crowd when he described flying over the “occupied territories” where Palestinians live.

A prominent Jewish leader, Morton A. Klein, said he tried to correct Mr. Christie as he left the stage, urging him to use different language, like “disputed territory.” Mr. Christie, he said, “scowled” and did not say whether he would do so in the future. “I was shocked,” said Mr. Klein, national president of the Zionist Organization of America.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/30/us/politics/at-republican-gathering-top-2016-contenders-bring-a-unified-message.html?hpw&rref=politics&_r=0



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more, delicious:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/03/29/1288340/-Oooof-Christie-Insults-Adelson-GOP-In-Full-Panic-Turning-to-Box-Office-Poison
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/30/christie-occupied-territo_n_5058356.html


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In response, there were some "audible murmurs" in the crowd, according to Time magazine's Zeke Miller, who was in the room.

The term "occupied territories" is a cause of dispute and controversy. Palestinians, along with the United Nations, consider the West Bank to be Palestinian, but under military occupation by Israel. Israel says that the land is "disputed," arguing the Palestinians do not have a legitimate claim to all of it.

Matt Brooks, executive director of the Republican Jewish Coalition, downplayed the concerns, telling CNN Christie "wasn't trying to set policy. He just misspoke in the moment."
http://www.abc17news.com/news/politics/GOP-2016-hopefuls-address-big-donors-in-Vegas/25231416


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/30/christie-occupied-territo_n_5058356.html
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Oooof! Christie Insults Adelson; GOP In Full Panic (Original Post) kpete Mar 2014 OP
Wouldn't it be easier to spend the weekend smoking buds in Colorado? BeyondGeography Mar 2014 #1
But smoking buds with buds in Colorado while watching this going on? Priceless. Chris Christy.... marble falls Mar 2014 #10
I guess being a bully does mean you are smart warrior1 Mar 2014 #2
Chrispie knows Sheldon's boy is Jeb n/t n2doc Mar 2014 #3
This story is so revealing in so many ways. (nt) enough Mar 2014 #4
Bwah-ha-HAH!1 When he gloated being "cleared" - does he really *believe* himself?!1 n/t UTUSN Mar 2014 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #6
Jabba the Burnt Toast. PeoViejo Mar 2014 #7
I dislike christie lots dotymed Mar 2014 #8
... Mira Mar 2014 #11
Not from the Zionist nutbag perspective catbyte Mar 2014 #12
Yes it is. There is no dispute. LuvNewcastle Mar 2014 #30
Was the winner announced? Hoppy Mar 2014 #9
you betcha! kpete Mar 2014 #13
big headed? greymattermom Mar 2014 #17
Jeb's got to have tons of shady shit in his past. octoberlib Mar 2014 #23
investigative reporter friend of mine who took down a ... grasswire Mar 2014 #33
This should be entertaining.nt octoberlib Mar 2014 #35
it has given me some peace of mind regarding Jeb. grasswire Mar 2014 #36
Nothing like pushing this out in the news . good going Christie lol PatrynXX Mar 2014 #14
I at least appreciate... paleotn Mar 2014 #15
Christie unleashed tooeyeten Mar 2014 #16
So when republican Candidate "A" promises their undying fealty to Adelson and Israel -- but Buns_of_Fire Mar 2014 #18
Bush vs Clinton in 2016? Deny and Shred Mar 2014 #19
+1000 abelenkpe Mar 2014 #21
That's the way it's shaping up. I'd really like an alternative. LuvNewcastle Mar 2014 #31
I've been saying it here for a while BrotherIvan Mar 2014 #37
He tells the truth for once.... Helen Borg Mar 2014 #20
Shades of Romney's presidental "foreign policy chops" trip rocktivity Mar 2014 #22
Look at the bright side, he sewed up the conservative Muslim-American vote Brother Buzz Mar 2014 #24
Just so I'm clear... Orrex Mar 2014 #25
I was going to ask the same question about Crimea. nt TexasTowelie Mar 2014 #27
Here and in most of the world karynnj Mar 2014 #29
I'm amused noting how some try to make a case that the situation for Israel in the West Bank is TexasTowelie Mar 2014 #26
1%ers buy their politicians while making them stand in line like at a Lubys restaurant. nt. Rex Mar 2014 #28
Good for him for telling the truth. As they say, even a broken clock.... Douglas Carpenter Mar 2014 #32
And Immediately Thereafter.... Laxman Mar 2014 #34
Fucking groveler.. Cha Mar 2014 #38

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
1. Wouldn't it be easier to spend the weekend smoking buds in Colorado?
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 09:50 AM
Mar 2014

The things people put themselves through.

marble falls

(57,097 posts)
10. But smoking buds with buds in Colorado while watching this going on? Priceless. Chris Christy....
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 11:12 AM
Mar 2014

could become the next Harold Stassen. Its almost like a NJ version of Nixon and Watergate. Don't get me wrong, Adelson deserves any amount of abuse handed him.

warrior1

(12,325 posts)
2. I guess being a bully does mean you are smart
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 09:56 AM
Mar 2014

just that you have a smart mouth.

suck to be you christie.

Response to kpete (Original post)

dotymed

(5,610 posts)
8. I dislike christie lots
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 10:55 AM
Mar 2014

but he did not misspeak on this occasion. Palestine is an occupied territory from any perspective.

kpete

(71,994 posts)
13. you betcha!
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 11:18 AM
Mar 2014

the Republican Party’s most powerful insiders and financiers have begun a behind-the-scenes campaign to draft former Florida governor Jeb Bush into the 2016 presidential race, courting him and his intimates and starting talks on fundraising strategy.

OMG! Yeah! You read that right! They're so desperate they're turning to this guy!



http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/03/29/1288340/-Oooof-Christie-Insults-Adelson-GOP-In-Full-Panic-Turning-to-Box-Office-Poison

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
33. investigative reporter friend of mine who took down a ...
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 01:06 PM
Mar 2014

....top GOPer told me he has stuff on Jeb. Says there are two bimbo eruptions, for starters.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
14. Nothing like pushing this out in the news . good going Christie lol
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 11:19 AM
Mar 2014

Now even more people know Israel is doing the same thing the west bank as Russia is to Crimea but even more so than Crimea

paleotn

(17,918 posts)
15. I at least appreciate...
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 11:21 AM
Mar 2014

...Christie sticking with reality and I'll do him one better. The Gaza Strip is nothing more than a Palestinian ghetto.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,180 posts)
18. So when republican Candidate "A" promises their undying fealty to Adelson and Israel -- but
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 11:46 AM
Mar 2014

thinks that perhaps a few regulations on business aren't a bad thing...

...and republican Candidate "B" promises their undying fealty to The Almighty "Free Market"/Koch Brothers/JBS, and vows to abolish the EPA and any restrictions on American-style Capitalism -- but doesn't see themselves as running for P.M. of Israel...

We might get to see what happens when the three black holes of American politics collide.

("Okay, Shel, we'll see your $100 Million and raise you another $100 Million...&quot

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
37. I've been saying it here for a while
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 04:31 PM
Mar 2014

but most people shout me down citing Mama Bush's quote. (That grand dame can lie with the best, BTW). It's gonna be Jeb if they can run the numbers and come up winning against Clinton. If not, they'll save him for 2020. They ALWAYS wanted Jeb, "the smart one." But they knew the boosh name was toast after lil boots, and that ANY Democrat would win 2008. So they waited, and slowly, he's been slithering up in the national psyche. Jeb is the end game, the culmination of everything they wanted to do. Bush III will be the Koch agenda on steroids. If he wins, I'm outta here.

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
20. He tells the truth for once....
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 11:48 AM
Mar 2014

And he gets slammed for it!... No wonder he's become a pathological liar.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
22. Shades of Romney's presidental "foreign policy chops" trip
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 12:04 PM
Mar 2014

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When he scheduled a fundraiser in Jerusalem on a Jewish fasting day.

And he "scowled" and didn't respond when someone tried to correct him afterwards? Yum!


rocktivity

Orrex

(63,213 posts)
25. Just so I'm clear...
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 12:08 PM
Mar 2014

Is it ok to use the phrase "occupied territory" on DU when describing the West Bank?

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
29. Here and in most of the world
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 12:27 PM
Mar 2014

The real scary think for me as a Jew is that the failure of the unprecedented push for a two state solution would mean very serious thoughts of whether I personally could support Israel at all. It would be a de facto proof that there will not be a two state solution any time in the near future. Given that Israel is still continuing to build settlements, it will become even more impossible. (Additionally, I doubt anyone of similar stature would have been willing to work as hard as Kerry has on this - and if it fails, they would be even less likely.)

That leaves only the possibility of one state. I would gladly support one state, where all inhabitants have the same rights throughout the entire Israel/occupied territories area. However, I see NO WAY that Israeli politicians would ever voluntarily allow this to happen at this time. That leaves Israel and its occupied territories - that are not free nor part of Israel. Add the settlement process that gives more and more land to Jews and it is completely anti democratic and immoral that this has continued to be the case since 1967.

TexasTowelie

(112,209 posts)
26. I'm amused noting how some try to make a case that the situation for Israel in the West Bank is
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 12:11 PM
Mar 2014

different than for Russia in Crimea. How many Hebrew speakers were there in the West Bank before the Israelis built settlements over there?

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
28. 1%ers buy their politicians while making them stand in line like at a Lubys restaurant. nt.
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 12:17 PM
Mar 2014

nt.

Laxman

(2,419 posts)
34. And Immediately Thereafter....
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 01:08 PM
Mar 2014

Mr. Adelson hit Mr. Christie on the nose with a rolled up newspaper and said "bad governor!". Christie then went on to roll over, sit up and fetch Adelson's slippers for him hoping to prove that he was the best lap dog of them all.

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