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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 03:56 PM Mar 2014

Senator Bernie Sanders: “How many people will die if the Affordable Care Act is repealed?”

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The Week in Review

The government shutdown dragged into a second week. A growing majority of Democrats and about 20 Republicans in the House favor a Senate-passed resolution to reopen the government, but Speaker John Boehner refused to bring the resolution up for a vote. When House Republicans first forced a shutdown on Oct. 1, they were demanding the defunding of Obamacare as part of any deal. That would be a death sentence for thousands of Americans without health insurance, Sen. Bernie Sanders told a Senate hearing on Thursday. As the week wore on, Republicans shifted their rationale for closing the government and defaulting on the country’s debts. Now they demand deep cuts in Social Security and other programs. The whole spectacle drove public approval of Congress, especially Republicans and the Tea Party, to new lows. As Sanders sized up the situation in a Friday floor speech, he began by citing a piece in The Onion. “Psychiatrists Deeply Concerned for 5% of Americans Who Approve of Congress,” the headline said.

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Obamacare “How many people will die if the Affordable Care Act is repealed?” Sanders asked at a hearing he chaired Thursday on what would happen if Obamacare is repealed. The hearing came on the 10th day of a government shutdown forced by House Republicans insisting that any deal to reopen the government defund the health care law. Watch excerpts from the hearing, Read Greg Kaufmann’s piece in The Nation

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http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/recent-business/the-week-in-review-101113

GOP's Obamacare spite means death toll for red states
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024754281
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Senator Bernie Sanders: “How many people will die if the Affordable Care Act is repealed?” (Original Post) ProSense Mar 2014 OP
And yet, to the voting public, the shutdown is now a distant memory Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2014 #1
Republicans ProSense Mar 2014 #2
Lying works surprisingly well. Whisp Mar 2014 #6
Kick! n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #3
Not enough for Republicans to care Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #4
They can be ProSense Mar 2014 #7
big kick and big rec ! nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #5
"she was rejected 34 times before the aca" ProSense Mar 2014 #8
Millions of lives don't count...because, you know Single Payer.... Sheepshank Mar 2014 #9

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
1. And yet, to the voting public, the shutdown is now a distant memory
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 04:05 PM
Mar 2014

at best, and Republicans are beating Dems in generic polling in many places, and are on track atm to actually take the Senate.

That complete lack of memory is the most infuriating thing about American politics. Republicans can do anything idiotic or dastardly as a whole, and get away with it electorally, as long as they make sure they do it more than 8 months or so before an election.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
2. Republicans
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 04:21 PM
Mar 2014
And yet, to the voting public, the shutdown is now a distant memory

at best, and Republicans are beating Dems in generic polling in many places, and are on track atm to actually take the Senate.

That complete lack of memory is the most infuriating thing about American politics. Republicans can do anything idiotic or dastardly as a whole, and get away with it electorally, as long as they make sure they do it more than 8 months or so before an election.

...benefit from everyone repeating their talking points often.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
6. Lying works surprisingly well.
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 05:46 PM
Mar 2014

If there is anything I have learned in the past while, is that. The Pugs are master liars and know how human nature works in this department. They know how to divide and conquer like no one else. Pity people are so stupid to fall for it - like witless little children.

Tell something often enough and even what you think are intelligent people, will fall for it - far, far too many fall for it.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
7. They can be
Mon Mar 31, 2014, 12:13 AM
Mar 2014

"Not enough for Republicans to care"

...made to care.

ACA Tide Turns: Protesters Arrested In GA, GOPer Schools Scottie
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024695722

When reality hits them hard enough, which I'm sure is why NH's legislature cave on Medicaid expansion: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024752890

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
8. "she was rejected 34 times before the aca"
Mon Mar 31, 2014, 11:49 AM
Mar 2014
...senator bernie sanders says it was an awful rollout... but he says it's still a worthwhile program... that he expects to help a lot of people who need health care. "what you're looking at now is an end to this obscenity of preexisting conditions. we heard the other day about a woman who's kid has diabetes -- she was rejected 34 times before the aca in terms of being able to get insurance for her kid. that is just crazy stuff. that's gone." ...

http://mms.tveyes.com/Transcript.asp?StationID=1665&DateTime=3%2F31%2F2014+6%3A13%3A27+AM&Term=%22Bernie+Sanders%22&PlayClip=TRUE

Long Lines As Obamacare Enrollment Deadline Fast Approaches (PHOTOS)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024754810

Hospitals chart ways to boost care, funding under ACA
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024757937

A Brief History: Universal Health Care Efforts in the US
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024755799
 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
9. Millions of lives don't count...because, you know Single Payer....
Mon Mar 31, 2014, 12:04 PM
Mar 2014

I have seen the counter arguments so many times on DU recently: because there was no single payer, universal, socialized health, there should have been nothing, holding out for the gold standard !!

Such short sighted extremism is the norm here lately *sigh*

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