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Now available on DVD: Let the Fire Burn
On May 13, 1985, Philadelphia police dropped two pounds of military explosives onto a city row house occupied by the radical group MOVE. The resulting fire was not fought for over an hour although firefighters were on the scene with water cannons in place. Five children and six adults were killed and sixty-one homes were destroyed by the six-alarm blaze, one of the largest in the city's history. This dramatic tragedy unfolds through an extraordinary visual record previously withheld from the public. It is a graphic illustration of how prejudice, intolerance and fear can lead to unthinkable acts of violence.
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NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)a good example of what not to do all the way around
was isolated to just the compound. Yes, innocent kids and others were burned to death. But in the Philly MOVE case, people with no connections to MOVE were affected as the fire jumped from rooftop to rooftop. And that they did not even try to contain the fire was even more atrocious.
The Waco fire might have been started from within, and with live rounds of ammunition filling the compound, it was justifiable that no one from the outside dared venture near to stop the fire.
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Iggo
(47,552 posts)discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)Sorry couldn't resist.
drm604
(16,230 posts)MOVE was a bunch of nutty troublemakers hated by pretty much the whole neighborhood, but none of that justified the ridiculous police overreaction which ended up killing 11 people and destroying an entire neighborhood. Something like 60 houses were destroyed by the fire resulting from that explosion.
PCIntern
(25,550 posts)I actually treated the MOVE members as a dental student...there were three of us who saw the family, as it were, at Penn's Dental School. I then knew a number of the higher-ranking police and City Hall officials later thru political action as well as some became my patients. You could add everyone's IQ points together and still have a two-digit number when you were done. The administration were the dumbest bunch of MFers I have ever met. Unbelievable.
went to the dentist? Now that I would not have figured.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)When I saw your headline,
i thought,
"NOT AGAIN!!!????
You know,
the USA and NATO will go to war with countries where the government kills their OWN people!!!
...especially if they drop BOMBS on their own people.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)But do you remember the whole rebuilding fiasco?
bvar22
(39,909 posts)I was living across the country,
and I don't recall anything about that on our Media.
I have no doubt that the rebuilding was a Disaster Capitalism disaster.
Freddie
(9,265 posts)Didn't they have to totally rebuild all the rebuilt houses? Bureaucracy at its finest.
Had the same reaction when I saw this post--no, not again!! Hoping the documentary will be available on Netflix.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)...then they rebuilt many of them again.
Currently, Philadelphia Redevelopment owns a high percentage of them.
SamKnause
(13,106 posts)I look forward to seeing this.
I can not afford to buy the DVD.
I will have to wait until it pops up on PBS, satellite, or you tube.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)brooklynite
(94,572 posts)...while I don't endorse the Philadelphia Police Dept's tactics, MOVE was not a harmless bunch of eccentrics, and I'm not certain what tactic would have allowed the police to safely enter the building.
PCIntern
(25,550 posts)But I will say that they routinelyleft their compound and could have been picked up one by one for "observation" as we used to call it here in those days.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)...bunch of sock knitters, I have a huge problem with the police using explosives and letting a neighborhood burn.
BReisen
(114 posts)I watched this happen live on the local TV that day. It was really horrible to watch as that house, and then all those others, were allowed to burn. Helpless feeling!
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)Iggo
(47,552 posts)They're the best!
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)Iggo
(47,552 posts)...then I should just shut the fuck up.
PeteSelman
(1,508 posts)But the scumbags from MOVE soaked the rooftops in gasoline and caused the fire to engulf the whole block. I know people with firsthand experience on this event and I wonder how much truth will be in this documentary.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)from the description
IronLionZion
(45,442 posts)Not Philly PD
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOVE
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)I have no idea who was manning it.
Feral Child
(2,086 posts)Where did the cops get the explosives?
Police officers are not routinely issued C-4.
Did they take it out of evidence or requisition it from the National Guard?
It doesn't seem to be Public Safety equipment.