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kpete

(72,018 posts)
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 11:55 AM Apr 2014

Robert Reich: ".....where’s the Democrat’s campaign manifesto?"

.....where’s the Democrat’s campaign manifesto? Senate Democrats should counter with a budget that (1) raises taxes on the rich and closes notorious loopholes (such as “carried interest” for hedge-fund managers); (2) exempts the first $15,000 of income from Social Security taxes and makes up the difference by eliminating the cap on income subject to it; (3) ends corporate welfare to oil and gas, big pharma, big agriculture, military contractors, and Wall Street; and (4) uses the savings to invest in education and infrastructure, and a new WPA for the long-term unemployed. You agree?

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Robert Reich: ".....where’s the Democrat’s campaign manifesto?" (Original Post) kpete Apr 2014 OP
That's part of the solution; another is to denounce trade agreements like NAFTA closeupready Apr 2014 #1
It's almost like we're trying to lose. Scuba Apr 2014 #2
Sometimes I think Colmes is the perfect representation of the democratic party... rwsanders Apr 2014 #12
+1 leftstreet Apr 2014 #14
+2! nt adirondacker Apr 2014 #16
I've gotten emails that make the claim... Blanks Apr 2014 #50
I'm really trying to figure out the psychology of voters... rwsanders Apr 2014 #57
It must be time for RepubliCon corporations to get some attention now. polichick Apr 2014 #19
So why don't ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #25
You've not heard of the Progressive Caucus Budget? Scuba Apr 2014 #26
Thanks Scuba Half-Century Man Apr 2014 #30
Yes I have ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #32
Here's the newest budget ProSense Apr 2014 #34
Thanks ProSense. Scuba Apr 2014 #35
Looks excellent. Have you posted that as a separate thread? It needs more attention JDPriestly Apr 2014 #38
Not recently, but it makes sense with Lyin' Ryan releasing his latest joke today. Will do. Scuba Apr 2014 #39
A few have tried (including ProSense); replies are rare, and so, it seems, is interest muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #54
Well to be fair... SomethingFishy Apr 2014 #48
He needs to add Springslips Apr 2014 #3
Big k & r lovemydog Apr 2014 #4
Bring up exploding trains, pipelines, fertilizer plants, and chemical spills House of Roberts Apr 2014 #5
+1 daleanime Apr 2014 #17
you know why they won't vote to raise the cap hfojvt Apr 2014 #6
Bernie's solution moves the cap raise to $250,000. grahamhgreen Apr 2014 #10
I agree but I ask why we have not written this up in our platform long ago? jwirr Apr 2014 #7
Gone with the Wind. Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #8
Who here doesn't agree? Let's hear your arguments:) grahamhgreen Apr 2014 #9
"We're not as crazy as the other side." That's it. polichick Apr 2014 #11
And the always present zeemike Apr 2014 #41
Well, there is ProSense Apr 2014 #13
These things seem so frigging obvious mindwalker_i Apr 2014 #15
+1 daleanime Apr 2014 #18
I doubt it ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #29
But that's exactly why Democrats have to do it dreamnightwind Apr 2014 #46
Well that is where the money is. eom zeemike Apr 2014 #42
there's my candidate for 2016. grasswire Apr 2014 #20
works for me! dionysus Apr 2014 #21
the K Berlum Apr 2014 #22
But we have the wonderfully engaging "FACTIVISM!" Auggie Apr 2014 #23
Fine, RR. Why don't you write it yourself? DinahMoeHum Apr 2014 #24
The answer is simple: We need to reach across the aisle so far that we're practically sitting there RufusTFirefly Apr 2014 #27
I hate the cartoon for it's accuracy. vi5 Apr 2014 #33
More like.. LiberalLovinLug Apr 2014 #45
Reich's a hater trying to divide our party MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #28
No, he isn't, but ProSense Apr 2014 #31
Reich's got our back. toby jo Apr 2014 #36
K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Apr 2014 #37
So far the main manifesto seems to be ... Kablooie Apr 2014 #40
That's been the manifesto for more than a decade. Do everything the GOP does, just apologize harun Apr 2014 #52
All winning issues. zeemike Apr 2014 #43
Great idea, but it'll never see the light of day. BlueNAlabama Apr 2014 #44
Kick,kick,kicked&Recommended! butterfly77 Apr 2014 #47
Amen. The ACA milestone today just threw a huge springboard into their collective lap Doctor_J Apr 2014 #49
Reich is going to be the next President harun Apr 2014 #51
We could do worse. nt Demo_Chris Apr 2014 #53
That would imply woo me with science Apr 2014 #55
Making the American People Better Off muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #56
 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
1. That's part of the solution; another is to denounce trade agreements like NAFTA
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 11:57 AM
Apr 2014

and WPP, which are not 'fair' but rather, balanced WAY against labor.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
2. It's almost like we're trying to lose.
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 11:58 AM
Apr 2014

When I asked here why we don't have a 2014 platform I got a whole bunch of excuses, none of which made sense.

"We only do that every four years" just doesn't flip my flapjacks.

rwsanders

(2,606 posts)
12. Sometimes I think Colmes is the perfect representation of the democratic party...
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 12:35 PM
Apr 2014

Brought in to give the appearance of choice, but paid (by the corporations) to lose.
The MSM is already starting up with the mantra that the "polls" show that repugs are poised to gain seats and possibly take control of the senate.

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
50. I've gotten emails that make the claim...
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 08:23 PM
Apr 2014

That Nate Silver has predicted the republicans will take control of the senate in 2014.

Whether it's true or not - everyone needs to believe that if they don't vote we are gonna lose.

rwsanders

(2,606 posts)
57. I'm really trying to figure out the psychology of voters...
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 02:07 PM
Apr 2014

It seems the MSM tries to say OK the repugs are going to win, so instead of motivation, it has appeared at times (except when Obama defeated Rmoney) that it has worked and people have given up and stayed home. I don't know why that wouldn't make more left leaning voters rush to the polls, but it doesn't.
I'm also trying to understand the people that don't vote. I've read that 80% lean left. When I was young I thought it didn't matter, but it doesn't take much maturity at all to realize that it is a really big deal. Really big. Literally life and death to hundreds, or if you count the wars of conquest (Iraq and Afghanistan) millions of lives.
Finally, why do people tend to vote for the candidate that spends the most money? Maybe I just grew up contrarian, but that tends to appall me.
Voting really should be mandatory, with a "none of the above" option, but I'm not too hopeful for change today after the SCOTUS debacle that was just announced.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
25. So why don't ...
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 01:43 PM
Apr 2014

Merkle (D-Oregon), Wyden (D-Oregon) or Sanders (I-Vermont), that we hear so much about, draft a counter budget to serve as that "Manifesto"?

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/committees/SSBU

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
26. You've not heard of the Progressive Caucus Budget?
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 01:48 PM
Apr 2014

Perhaps you need to broaden your sources. I'm not sure the President has exactly been trumpeting this plan.

http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov/back-to-work-budget/

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
38. Looks excellent. Have you posted that as a separate thread? It needs more attention
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 02:37 PM
Apr 2014

from more DUers. Thanks.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
48. Well to be fair...
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 03:40 PM
Apr 2014

If they actually worked at it and fought for it, then if they lose, they might have to accept some blame instead of foisting it all on the "voters".

It's already started and we haven't even lost yet.

Why they don't hire an ad agency to streamline the message and hammer it home is beyond me. I mean could we not win on the "Republicans are hurting Veterans" message alone?

Springslips

(533 posts)
3. He needs to add
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 12:00 PM
Apr 2014

A $12 minimum wage, reinstate unemployment benefits and SNAP budget, and a 50k min on exempt manager who actually do hard work in terms of overtime.

House of Roberts

(5,186 posts)
5. Bring up exploding trains, pipelines, fertilizer plants, and chemical spills
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 12:04 PM
Apr 2014

and close with Deregulation Kills!

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
6. you know why they won't vote to raise the cap
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 12:10 PM
Apr 2014

Cap - $117,000
Senator salary - $174,000

tax increase on Senator if the cap was raised $3,534

perhaps we should start small - raise the cap to cover a Congressperson's salary. Why should a Senator pay 4.2% in FICA taxes while the voters pay 6.2%?

Couldn't an incumbent be hammered with that?

And if the first $8,000 was exempted from FICA taxes that would be a tax cut of almost $500 for most workers.

Wouldn't it be unpopular to oppose that?

Of course, the other reason why Congress cannot do that - too many donations come from people making over $117,000 a year. Donors who do NOT want to pay more in taxes.

Donors for BOTH parties.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
13. Well, there is
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 12:36 PM
Apr 2014
.....where’s the Democrat’s campaign manifesto? Senate Democrats should counter with a budget that (1) raises taxes on the rich and closes notorious loopholes (such as “carried interest” for hedge-fund managers); (2) exempts the first $15,000 of income from Social Security taxes and makes up the difference by eliminating the cap on income subject to it; (3) ends corporate welfare to oil and gas, big pharma, big agriculture, military contractors, and Wall Street; and (4) uses the savings to invest in education and infrastructure, and a new WPA for the long-term unemployed. You agree?

... President Obama's budget.

What’s Not DOA in the Obama Budget

It’s of course tempting to decry the President’s budget as “dead on arrival” but I wouldn’t be nearly so quick to go there. To dismiss its content because it’s not going to become the nation’s budget is painting with far too broad a stroke. Here are a number of ways that some of the ideas that administration trotted out today will be referenced in months and even years to come.

–Though the budget, wisely, proposes to spend beyond the too-tight caps in place from earlier budget deals, that extra $55 billion may well not see the light of day. Still, while legislators, as part of the Murray/Ryan deal, agreed to top-line appropriation numbers, the President’s budget provides the White House’s recommendations as to how those spending levels should be spread across agencies and programs. That blueprint will surely be in the mix when appropriators allocate discretionary spending.

–Increasing the amount of the Earned Income Tax Credit going to childless adults is an idea that’s been espoused by partisans on both sides of the aisle...The fight will be over payfors, including closing the carried-interest loophole, which virtually no one defends—it’s awfully hard to provide a rationale for the favorable tax treatment of the earnings of private equity fund managers—but still remains in place. But I’d bet that eventually, some version of what the President proposed today will become law.

–Tax reform, at least on the corporate side. I stumbled on two articles today that ticked off tax reform ideas that both President Obama and Republican House chief tax-writer Dave Camp agree on (including carried interest, btw). Yes, it’s true that many of his fellow R’s ran from Camp (they decamped?) as quickly as they could. But especially on the corporate side, where both parties are arguing for a lower rate and broader base <...> –Transportation spending: The corporate proposals also relate to this one, as both President Obama and Rep. Camp take some one-time revenues raised from the transition to a new approach to taxing multinationals and use those resources for improving our transportation infrastructure. To be clear, Obama and Camp’s ideas for international tax reform are quite different, but any such change involves a one-time levy on something like $2 trillion in deferred foreign earnings...More broadly speaking, I’ve heard many dismiss the President’s budget as a “political document.” Um…yep. And, as such, it will play a significant role in our political debate on the role of government, much as I suggested here. In this regard, it’s far from DOA, both in the specifics noted above and in the broader case for a more activist role for government in meeting the challenges and market failures facing way too many Americans.

http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/whats-not-doa-in-the-obama-budget/


How corporate America is losing the debate on taxes

By Jia Lynn Yang

If there is one clear loser in President Obama's budget this year, it's U.S. multinationals...the 2015 budget proposes a total of more than $276 billion in higher taxes on overseas earnings for U.S. multinationals over the next decade, about $120 billion more than last year's budget....So much for the White House's attempts to strike common ground with big company chief executives, who have been howling for years about paying too much in taxes with the federal corporate tax rate at 35 percent.

The trouble with those complaints is that many companies don't pay nearly that rate. GE, for instance, in its most recent annual filing said it paid an effective tax rate of 4.2 percent. (See this graphic we ran last year showing taxes paid by companies in the Dow 30.) These firms insist that the high rate is merely forcing them to find complex ways to lower their tax bills. But with this budget, it's clear the administration isn't buying it.

"The problem is not an international tax system that unacceptably handicaps U.S. businesses," said Ed Kleinard, a professor at the University of Southern California's Gould School of Law who has done extensive research on the way companies shuffle their income overseas to lower their tax bills. "Instead the problem is an international tax system both in the United States and other countries that U.S. multinational firms have demonstrated they are highly skilled at gaming."

The president's budget is the latest sign for corporate tax lobbyists that the winds are perhaps shifting against them. Last month's tax reform plan from House Ways and Means Chairman Dave Camp (R-Mich.) also included a number of ideas unpopular with business, including a bank tax. His section on international tax reform was somewhat more generous to big firms, giving them a lower rate on overseas earnings with anti-abuse measures that Kleinbard says don't go far enough...expectations are low that either the president or Camp's policies will ever make the leap to reality. But after spending hundreds of millions of dollars on lobbyists, corporate America is not exactly seeing its worldview reflected in these blue prints.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/03/05/how-corporate-america-is-losing-the-debate-on-taxes/

From the two articles linked to in Berstein's piece:

<...>

But the overlap may one day form the basis for the first tax revamp since 1986. Here is a list of tax changes in the president's budget that Camp also highlighted for reform.

* Carried interest.

The "carried interest" tax provision lets private equity partners pay lower taxes on large portions of their incomes. Camp wants to eliminate this tax break, putting him at odds with other Republicans who steadfastly defend it. Obama's budget reiterates his longstanding call for repealing carried interest, which helped former Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney pay a low effective tax rate. Eliminating carried interest could raise $17.4 billion over 10 years, according to a November 2013 estimate from the Congressional Budget Office.

<...>

* Oil and gas.

While Republicans usually defend corporate oil and gas tax breaks whenever Obama targets them for repeal, Camp's reform plan would eliminate the industry's tax breaks and preferred accounting rules. Obama recommends repealing $4 billion in tax subsidies for oil, gas and other fossil fuel producers.

- more -

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/04/us-usa-fiscal-tax-factbox-idUSBREA231LI20140304


<...>

Bank tax: To the chagrin of Wall Street, Camp’s plan included a tax on the biggest U.S. banks and insurance companies. Obama also proposes what he calls a financial crisis responsibility fee, designed to raise about $56 billion over 10 years. Camp’s would raise more — about $86 billion.

Cutting corporate taxes: Obama would cut the U.S. corporate tax rate to 28%, down from its current top rate of 35%. For manufacturers, however, Obama would lower the corporate rate to 25%. The difference with Camp is just a few percentage points: the Michigan Republican wants a top corporate rate of 25%.

- more -

http://blogs.marketwatch.com/capitolreport/2014/03/04/what-tax-plans-from-barack-obama-and-dave-camp-have-in-common/

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
15. These things seem so frigging obvious
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 12:41 PM
Apr 2014

I get the feeling that if the Democratic party made this their platform and pushed it, we'd be mopping the floor with the Republicans. Even with gerrymandering. Unfortunately, it might make some rich dudes mad.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
29. I doubt it ...
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 01:50 PM
Apr 2014

The typical disengaged voter would have no idea what most of that means, or how it would affect them.

The academic research indicates that people are far more moved to act to prevent a loss than achieve a gain, i.e., "Their gonna take away your guns/rights/religion" is a more compelling call to action than, "I'll give you {Insert Policy Item here}.

That's why negative campaigning is so effective.

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
46. But that's exactly why Democrats have to do it
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 03:08 PM
Apr 2014

and illustrates the folly of keeping policies that don't immediately have the votes to win "off the table" while negotiating with corporate lobbyists on what policies are pragmatic or sensible. The public doesn't learn from it what is actually needed.

Nobody fights for the kind of reforms we really need. Nobody that matters even makes it their cause to educate the public on these things, puts them on their back and carries them for all to see and learn about. Some exceptions to "nobody" but not many. The result is the public hears only what has been pre-approved by corporate donors, corporate media, and corporate think-tanks, and has no idea what the country really needs.

It won't be possible until Democrats stand up obstinately for what they really believe in. They can compromise off of that to get piecemeal legislative reform if they have to, but in doing so they need to go kicking and screaming from the positions we really need, re-educating the public in the process which will benefit future policy battles.

ETA: I was mostly referring to your first sentence rather than the negative response assertion. It would be pretty easy to properly frame our issues to take advantage of the losing stuff or accentuation of the negative bias you're talking about.

The actual obstacle, in my opinion, isn't voter's fear of losing things, it's corporate money and its stranglehold not only on the Republicans but on our own party, preventing our politicians from angering their potential corporate donors and potential future corporate employment (for themselves, as high-paid lecturers and/or consultants o board members) with any serious discussion of actual progressive reform of powerful interest malfeasance.

DinahMoeHum

(21,809 posts)
24. Fine, RR. Why don't you write it yourself?
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 01:24 PM
Apr 2014

RR should GTFO his ivory tower and get down and dirty with the actual campaign troops.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,176 posts)
45. More like..
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 03:00 PM
Apr 2014

Obama:
...I fold.

Boehner:
He hasn't finished dealing the cards yet.
You have to at least pretend to play a few rounds first before you fold.

Obama:
Oh....right, ...hit me.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
31. No, he isn't, but
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 01:51 PM
Apr 2014
Reich's a hater trying to divide our party

like this loser troll: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024757040

...apparently someone is.

Reich is calling for a lot of the same things in the President's budget.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024764221#post13

Kablooie

(18,641 posts)
40. So far the main manifesto seems to be ...
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 02:43 PM
Apr 2014

We aren't as bad as the crazy Republicans so vote for us.

harun

(11,348 posts)
52. That's been the manifesto for more than a decade. Do everything the GOP does, just apologize
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 09:39 AM
Apr 2014

for having to do it.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
43. All winning issues.
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 02:56 PM
Apr 2014

And none of it is being said by our party...instead we are being told to play defense.

 

BlueNAlabama

(27 posts)
44. Great idea, but it'll never see the light of day.
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 02:58 PM
Apr 2014

If we truly had a representative government this kind of budget proposal would pass with flying colors. But we don't and never will as long $$$$$$ corrupt the entire election process, TOP TO BOTTOM.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
49. Amen. The ACA milestone today just threw a huge springboard into their collective lap
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 08:08 PM
Apr 2014

actually combination springboard/sledge hammer. Still 7 months to get a fucking platform and start blaring about it.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,364 posts)
56. Making the American People Better Off
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 11:52 AM
Apr 2014

Creating Good Jobs – creates 8.8 million jobs by 2017.
 Long-term Unemployed – provides access to training and employment services to match employee potential with employer demand.
 Infrastructure – creates jobs in building and construction industries to repair and modernize our ailing roads, bridges and water infrastructure.
 State Aid – provides assistance to states to allow them to hire and rehire public employees such as police, firefighters and health care workers.
 Public Works and Education – a direct hire program that includes seven jobs corps to hire physicians, students, construction and community workers and an education program boost to hire more teachers and improve schools.
Reversing Harmful Cuts – repeals the Budget Control Act and Sequester, restores Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) benefits, restores unemployment insurance, fully funds the Prevention and Public Health Fund, and ends the federal worker pay freeze.
Equity for Women and People of Color – enhances federal programs targeted at creating equity and improving outcomes for women, people of color, and their families.
Protecting Veterans and Workers through Retirement –adopts a cost-of-living adjustment that takes into account realistic retiree expenses and fully funds veterans programs in advance.
FAIR INDIVIDUAL TAXES
 Implements a new Hard Work Tax Credit for households earning less than $150,000.
 Returns to Clinton tax rates for households making over $250,000 and implements new brackets for those making over $1 million.
 Equalizes tax rates for investment income and income from a hard day’s work.
FAIR CORPORATE TAXES
 Eliminates the ability of U.S. corporations to defer taxes on offshore profits.
 Enacts a Financial Transaction tax on various financial market transactions.
 Implements Chairman Dave Camp’s financial institution excise tax.
HEALTH CARE
 Protects and strengthens Medicare and Medicaid without cutting benefits for seniors.
 Builds on Affordable Care Act savings and successes, including implementing a public option and expanding payment reforms.
 Allows states to transition to single-payer health care systems.
ENVIRONMENT
 Closes tax loopholes and ends subsidies provided to oil, gas and coal companies.
 Addresses the climate change crisis by enacting a price on carbon pollution while holding low-income families harmless.
 Invests in clean and renewable energy, which creates middle class jobs, boosts the economy, and cuts pollution.

That would be The Better Off Budget, from the Congressional Progressive Caucus.

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