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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 04:12 AM Apr 2014

Hm. Is the third verse of "Jailhouse Rock" a prison rape reference?

Or am I overthinking this?

Number forty-seven said to number three:
You're the cutest jailbird I ever did see.
I sure would be delighted with your company,
Come on and do the jailhouse rock with me.
Lets rock, everybody, lets rock.
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Hm. Is the third verse of "Jailhouse Rock" a prison rape reference? (Original Post) Recursion Apr 2014 OP
I think so davidpdx Apr 2014 #1
I don't think so. LumosMaxima Apr 2014 #2
You're over-thinking. Behind the Aegis Apr 2014 #3
I agree. Just because two prisoners are dancing, or possibly other things, LuvNewcastle Apr 2014 #6
I haven't heard that song in a long time... NaturalHigh Apr 2014 #4
Oh, I don't know. "Short Fat Fanny" charted then. Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #10
Oh, lots of pipi_k Apr 2014 #17
If you look hard enough, you'll find something like this or similar in all rock songs Nanjing to Seoul Apr 2014 #5
Run for you Life by John Lennon - the Beatles el_bryanto Apr 2014 #11
It does refer to a homosexual encounter, but not of the forced variety. I'm sure you can find okaawhatever Apr 2014 #7
The whole song is about prison sex. Scuba Apr 2014 #8
+1000 Tom Ripley Apr 2014 #18
Take a look at the choreography created by Elvis and Alex Romero Bluenorthwest Apr 2014 #9
True dat. In_The_Wind Apr 2014 #13
I'm reading nothing that suggests a non consensual relationship.nt msanthrope Apr 2014 #12
Way overthinking, but... TreasonousBastard Apr 2014 #14
Yes. The song is about a prison riot. 6000eliot Apr 2014 #15
How is that prison rape? It sounds like he is asking the other prisoner if it's ok. cbdo2007 Apr 2014 #16
No. Iggo Apr 2014 #19
Never pipi_k Apr 2014 #20
"Little Joe was blowin' on the slide trombone". VScott Apr 2014 #21
Dancing is a common metaphor for sexual activity Jeff In Milwaukee Apr 2014 #22
Also, remember that the term "rock n' roll" was itself a slang term for sex. LuvNewcastle Apr 2014 #23

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
1. I think so
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 04:21 AM
Apr 2014

I've seen the clips of those and in fact I have some of them on my computer (I downloaded them because I teach ESL and the ones like "interjections" are good). I probably don't have that one though.

LumosMaxima

(585 posts)
2. I don't think so.
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 04:26 AM
Apr 2014

In the movie, they're just dancing in that scene. It sounded to me like a joke, something like, "There aren't any women to dance with, but you're not bad for a jailbird."

Behind the Aegis

(53,986 posts)
3. You're over-thinking.
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 04:34 AM
Apr 2014

If anything, it is an invitation to dance, or possibly for sex, but it doesn't mean it is going to be forced.

LuvNewcastle

(16,856 posts)
6. I agree. Just because two prisoners are dancing, or possibly other things,
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 05:37 AM
Apr 2014

doesn't mean it's forced. A lot of the sex that happens in prison is consensual. Probably most of it, in fact.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
4. I haven't heard that song in a long time...
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 04:41 AM
Apr 2014

and I never really knew the lyrics. However, I would think that a reference to prison rape in that day and age would have been pretty taboo. Just my opinion.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
17. Oh, lots of
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 10:00 AM
Apr 2014

taboo subjects were referenced back in those days, in songs and other places.


"Whoopee Blues", 1932

"You'se a Viper" - 1936

"A to Z Blues" - 1956

"Butcher Pete" - 1950

 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
5. If you look hard enough, you'll find something like this or similar in all rock songs
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 05:36 AM
Apr 2014

I mean, John Denver talked about sitting around a campfire in Colorado and getting hi.

And don't get me started on Gordon Lightfoot and his stalking of a girl in "If You Could Read My Mind."

Oh. . .Harry Chapin isn't innocent too. "They Call Her Easy," "Why Do Little Girls," and he advocates underage drinking and having his kid mingle with music playing strangers in "There Only Was One Choice."

I'm being snarky, but yes. . .you are overthinking this big time!!!

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
11. Run for you Life by John Lennon - the Beatles
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 08:50 AM
Apr 2014

Actually is pretty creepy even without reading into it.

Different times.

Many Cole Porter tunes have some disturbing elements to them.

Bryant

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
7. It does refer to a homosexual encounter, but not of the forced variety. I'm sure you can find
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 05:48 AM
Apr 2014

confirmation if you Google it. I've heard songwriter friends mention it, but it wasn't something that was really publicly discussed for years after the song came out.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
9. Take a look at the choreography created by Elvis and Alex Romero
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 08:31 AM
Apr 2014

Looks to me like those guys are having some fun now....


&feature=kp

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
14. Way overthinking, but...
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 09:16 AM
Apr 2014

"blowin' on the slide trombone" does make it clear waht's going on.

BTW, lyrics from back then, especially blues, were X-rated as often as not-- it's just that the censors weren't all that bright.

(And didn't spend much time in Harlem)

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
16. How is that prison rape? It sounds like he is asking the other prisoner if it's ok.
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 09:40 AM
Apr 2014

If I walk up to a woman at Target and say,

"You're the cutest Target customer I ever did see,
I sure would be delighted with your company,
Come on and go see a movie with me."

It surely isn't forcing her to go see a movie, it is a casual invitation.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
20. Never
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 10:04 AM
Apr 2014

actually thought about that side of it, but no...I don't believe it implies prison rape, mostly for the reasons others have given for their own opinions that it's not prison rape.

Just an invitation to dance. Or, if people really want to insert sex into the mix, consensual sex, at the very worst.

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
22. Dancing is a common metaphor for sexual activity
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 10:06 AM
Apr 2014

"Dirty Dancing" is just a very, very obvious example, but you'll find it throughout popular culture. Dancing is often used a substitute for sex, or as a form of ritualized foreplay.

So what when Audrey Hepburn sings that "I could have danced all night," you know that she's just getting her freak on.

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