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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 06:39 AM Apr 2014

White America Is Oblivious to the Truth About Black Poverty

http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/white-america-oblivious-truth-about-black-poverty



There’s been a fascinating debate over the past few weeks between Ta-Nehisi Coates from the Atlantic and New York magazine’s Jonathan Chait regarding the language President Obama employs in addressing African-American communities. Obama’s been criticized by Coates and other supporters for using rhetoric that reinforces the belief shared by many on the right, that personal initiative and hard work is sufficient to overcome the obstacles confronting many young black men despite the continued existence of institutional racism in education, employment, healthcare, criminal justice and civic participation (to name a few).

Chait replied with, “I agree that racial discrimination persists, but I don’t believe this fact abnegates the possibility that a culture of poverty exists as well.” Chait believes President Obama is uniquely suited to speak to black people about changing self-destructive behavior:

But Coates is committing a fallacy by assuming that Obama’s exhortations to the black community amount to a belief that personal responsibility accounts for a major share of the blame. A person worries about the things that he can control. ….Obama’s habit of speaking about this issue primarily to black audiences is Obama seizing upon his role as the most famous and admired African American in the world to urge positive habits and behavior.

In the most recent volley of exchanges, Chait takes Coates to task for ascribing views to him he does not hold. The column is titled: Ta-Nehisi Coates Disagrees With ‘Jonathan Chait,’ and So Do I. Chait states clearly he does not equate black culture with a "culture of poverty" as do Bill O’Reilly and many on the right, but he does see a link between persistent poverty and culture.

So let me explain what I do think. The culture of poverty is not solely or even primarily a black problem. It is a problem arising from concentrated poverty, and — as a result of both historic and ongoing racism — concentrated poverty disproportionately afflicts African-American communities. Obama understands that he commands prestige that can make him an inspirational figure in say, poor black neighborhoods in Chicago that he lacks in, say, poor white towns in West Virginia. As I’ve said, I understand Coates’ practical objections to this tactic.

The reaction I’ve seen online to this debate suggests a lot of readers on both sides investing a great deal of broader meanings into it — identity, authenticity, yet another endless iteration of the meta question of How We Talk About Race. I have no interest in playing a role in that drama. What interests me is a real and vital public-policy debate over the relationship between culture and poverty.


***the debate between coates and chait has been fascinating.
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White America Is Oblivious to the Truth About Black Poverty (Original Post) xchrom Apr 2014 OP
k&r for the truth, however depressing it may be. n/t Laelth Apr 2014 #1
How about the white Democrats who care? Larry the Cable Dude Apr 2014 #2
'caring' is nice. xchrom Apr 2014 #3
Not all of White America seveneyes Apr 2014 #4
In my area - 2 women 840high Apr 2014 #5
I think with each new generation racism is reduced. Omnith Apr 2014 #6

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
3. 'caring' is nice.
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 07:48 AM
Apr 2014

i'm not sure it has anything to do with getting as it relates to african american poverty -- and the very steep walls of structural racism.

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
4. Not all of White America
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 08:03 AM
Apr 2014

There are plenty of White Americans who have their own rough patch of ground to hoe. They know all too well the environment of poverty and hardship. Misery has no distinct lines, yet it always has contrast.

Omnith

(171 posts)
6. I think with each new generation racism is reduced.
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 12:22 PM
Apr 2014

I think the children of today do not encounter as much racism as their parents did. Just my observation, but I think it is encouraging.

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