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Elizabeth Warren on cocaine and banking (Original Post) Scuba Apr 2014 OP
Well, I generally do my banking when sober... Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #1
LOL Yeah I did a double-take on the thread title too n/t VWolf Apr 2014 #3
It sounded like the good Senator had a new hobby waddirum Apr 2014 #4
If she ran, I'd be in line faster than geeks for the latest iWhat. Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #9
More Democrats Need To Stand Up Against The Drug War billhicks76 Apr 2014 #21
and then you buy a few senators. mucifer Apr 2014 #2
K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2014 #5
K & R mountain grammy Apr 2014 #6
Well, if you believe "The Wolf of Wall Street"'s tales... Moostache Apr 2014 #7
If O had actually prosecuted them, they wouldn't have paid $35,800 each to have dinner with him. Divernan Apr 2014 #8
The quotes are disgusting. JDPriestly Apr 2014 #12
+1 cui bono Apr 2014 #24
I kind of like this senator. n/t Comrade Grumpy Apr 2014 #10
Wll said. K&R. JDPriestly Apr 2014 #11
Elizabeth Warren for president! Enthusiast Apr 2014 #13
"Elizabeth Warren on cocaine" <--- worst unintentional headline ever Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #14
that's how I first read it DesertRat Apr 2014 #16
Yeah, she doesn't really strike me as the "8 ball in the bathroom" type. Warren DeMontague Apr 2014 #17
She's going for the jugular! reformist2 Apr 2014 #15
Been there, done that. ..nt TeeYiYi Apr 2014 #18
Call them all out Senator!!!! blue14u Apr 2014 #19
K & R Plucketeer Apr 2014 #20
Cocaine and Bankers RandallBurns Apr 2014 #22
++ thank you dougolat Apr 2014 #25
Why is she banking while on cocaine? cui bono Apr 2014 #23
Sure wish she'd run! cilla4progress Apr 2014 #26
 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
1. Well, I generally do my banking when sober...
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 08:32 AM
Apr 2014

but given what little I have to work with, maybe I should alter myself to lessen the pain.

waddirum

(979 posts)
4. It sounded like the good Senator had a new hobby
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 08:56 AM
Apr 2014

I really like her and think that she's got it going "on".

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
21. More Democrats Need To Stand Up Against The Drug War
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 08:25 PM
Apr 2014

Too many Dems are in the pockets of the banks and drug war industrial complex. Not nearly as many as Republicans but we need to separate even further from them. Democrats in the Justice Dept like Lanny Breuer made a mockery of decency, justice and fairness by letting HSBC bankers walk free for knowingly laundering billions for murderous cartels while targeting harmless US marijuana entrepreneurs even in states where it's legal. It's beyond disgusting and anyone on our team participating in these kinds of frauds should be purged immediately. The times aren't a changin'...they have already changed but greedy sellouts are holding the new paradigm back. The Bidens and Breuer types are not merely antiquated but are actively supporting criminal behavior while pretending to help families. The drug war(all drugs) had damaged families, justice, truth and wellness more than any drug itself could ever do. Time for talk and rants is over...call your representatives and hold their feet to the fire. We don't need more studies, waiting periods or moratoriums...ACT NOW...please.

Moostache

(9,897 posts)
7. Well, if you believe "The Wolf of Wall Street"'s tales...
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 09:26 AM
Apr 2014

If you're a Wall Street criminal, you go to "work" and steal money all day long (apparently while high in the first place), do the entire ounce of cocaine before 10 PM, have sex with several hookers at a seedy after hours club, nearly crash you helicopter into the pool and then sleep in your own bed (or on the couch or floor or wherever else you might pass out)...they are all scumbags of the highest order and the fact that they are rewarded for their anti-social tendencies is sickening, but the whole sordid tale of Jordan Belfort and the rest of the ethos of Wall Street makes me sick.

Modern day fall of Rome...and we get to live it on the outside looking in as these greedy, soulless bastards destroy the world and run America into the ground for their own amusement...and as if that was not enough I just got done seeing that one of the Koch-suckers wrote an Op-ed piece defending himself and bemoaning people saying bad things about him....oh clutch the pearls!!!

Stop the world already, I want to get off.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
8. If O had actually prosecuted them, they wouldn't have paid $35,800 each to have dinner with him.
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 09:31 AM
Apr 2014

Bankers are so thin-skinned! They were so pissed off O called them "fat cats", he had to really suck up to keep those donations coming in. Good grief! Wasn't it enough that they were bailed out with none of them being tried, convicted and jailed?

http://www.toobighasfailed.org/2013/05/17/quotes-about-wall-street/

“You want to know who owns America? A few at the top. And they’ve got one thing on their mind. No change. Look at Obama, all that hope and promise. No change. He went to Wall Street, had a fundraiser—$35,800 a ticket—and you know who the host was? Goldman friggin’ Sachs.”

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/06/23/wall-streets-dinner-with-obama-hold-the-scorn/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0

The $35,800-a-plate dinner, held at the eponymous Upper East Side restaurant of the famed chef Daniel Boulud, was hosted by a committee of bankers, private equity executives and hedge fund managers, including Marc Lasry, chief executive of the Avenue Capital Group, and Orin Kramer, general partner at Boston Provident.

A similar benefit was held in April at the home of the wife of Jon Corzine, the ex-governor of New Jersey and former chief executive of Goldman Sachs. Both events are part of a concerted effort to lure deep-pocketed donors back to Mr. Obama’s corner for his 2012 re-election campaign. Some longtime Democrats in the finance community, angered by Mr. Obama’s comparisons of Wall Street executives to “fat cats” with outsize bonuses, have chafed at Mr. Obama’s attempt at an election-year rapprochement, and only a handful of bank executives appear as donors in recent filings connected to the campaign.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
12. The quotes are disgusting.
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 04:07 PM
Apr 2014

And some DUers wonder why we criticize some of Obama's policies and actions.

Talks good talk. Doesn't follow through. Unwilling to make the sacrifices needed to do what is right and fair.

It isn't about the prison time. It's about getting new management, honest people, on Wall Street.

There is no way that bankers and brokers failed to notice that housing prices were rising at astronomically higher rates than wages. And that discrepancy, that one right there, is what told any intelligent person that the housing market was a huge bubble waiting to burst.

You didn't need more than the power of observation and your feet on solid ground -- an awareness of reality -- to know that the bubble would burst.

The only explanation for the bubble and the resulting recession is that bankers and brokers saw it coming, thought they would win the game of chicken by pulling out first, and knowingly allowed it to happen. As they were playing the game, the bankers and brokers enjoyed the feeling of being on a roller coaster -- the thrill of playing against the clock for big stakes.

Reckless gamblers.

And, what is more, they lied. They lied. They covered up. Because they had the numbers. It's easy to look at wage scales and then at housing prices. My neighbor and I did it as we watched houses for which we had paid modest sums sold by our neighbors for far more. The bankers and brokers and, yes, the appraisers, had to know that the market was a bubble, that a crash was imminent.

They played for big stakes, and then when it was over, they came running to the taxpayers to make them whole. Big, rich bankers begging from the poor and middle class. And then taking big bonuses.

What's more. A lot of the investors and bankers and brokers DON'T PAY A FAIR SHARE OF THE TAXES BECAUSE OF THE CARRIED INTEREST DEDUCTION. Should be ashamed of themselves.

Worse yet, even though many of them supported Obama, they now support the austerity program -- for everyone but themselves.

What a bunch of crooks. Pure and simple -- crooks.

They may claim they didn't know everything would crash. But they should have known. Any claim that they did not know just demonstrates better than anything their incompetence which makes them unsuited to run banks or brokerages.

If, as the Justice Department claims, the US government needs to update its laws to make this kind of fraud punishable, it should do so as soon as possible. It should be criminal to gamble so recklessly and then claim compensation for the losses from the taxpayers. Just hideous. And it will happen again because too few bankers, too few brokers have lost their jobs for this scam.

blue14u

(575 posts)
19. Call them all out Senator!!!!
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 07:53 PM
Apr 2014

My head is still spinning from the theft of so many homes lost to innocent

and unknowing people. Lives turned completely upside down and not one person

seriously held accountable. We have still not recovered as a Nation and may

never will..

How wrong. How incredibly sad. How grossly arrogant of them!

Elizabeth Warren for President 2016!!!!

RandallBurns

(5 posts)
22. Cocaine and Bankers
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 11:43 PM
Apr 2014

Cocaine is intimately linked to financial fraud beyond just the dollars it generates.
http://www.theguardian.com/business/shortcuts/2013/apr/15/cocaine-bankers-global-financial-crisis

I have personally seen some of this stuff working on investigation of financial profesionals.
(I spent two years on this one).
http://www.floridatrend.com/article/13701/riscorp-what-happened

I favor ceasing the war on drugs--legalizing or decriminalizing virtually all drugs--but that doesn't mean we can't regulate
folks like like elected officials, licensed professionals, and officers of publicly traded companies-and for that matter the police and prison guards.
Much legal malpractice is associated with cocaine or alcohol abuse. The tests exist to measure alcohol use over a 90 day period now also
(See Substance Abuse and Attorney Discipline, by John P. Ratnaswamy, The Bencher, September/October 2011)
Why shouldn't leaders be held to high standards?

We need a new type of leadership in congress if that institution is to regain any respect. Michele Bachmann is stepping down. The current leader in fund raising to replace her is two time DWI offender, Tom Emmer-sponsor of legislation to pull welfare from pot smokers and sponsor of legislation to soften DWI penalities. David to this Goliath is Jim Read-a Harvard Ph.D. and Eagle Scout. Read's web site is http://www.jimreadforcongress.com.

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