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karend62

(29 posts) Thu Apr 3, 2014, 08:43 PM Apr 2014

Mississippi just legalized same sex marriage with SB2681

Last edited Thu Apr 3, 2014, 10:05 PM - Edit history (2)

Governor Phil Bryant indirectly legalized same sex marriage[/link] when he signed SB2681 into law in Mississippi.

AN ACT TO ENACT THE MISSISSIPPI RELIGIOUS FREEDOM RESTORATION ACT; TO PROVIDE THAT STATE ACTION OR AN ACTION BY ANY PERSON BASED ON STATE ACTION SHALL NOT BURDEN A PERSON'S RIGHT TO THE EXERCISE OF RELIGION; AND FOR RELATED PURPOSES.

"Exercise of religion" is defined as actions that are substantially motivated by one's sincerely held religious belief

Matt Eichelberger, a political blogger in Mississippi, points out that the Unitarian Universalist Church has sanctioned gay marriage since 1996. We have a few congregations in the state mostly in college towns. These churches would love to perform marriage ceremonies for LGBT couples. Mississippi could become the marriage destination of the Southeast for same sex couples who live in neighboring red states.

If some action is part of your "sincerely held religious belief" then literally anything goes.

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Mississippi just legalized same sex marriage with SB2681 (Original Post) karend62 Apr 2014 OP

So toad licking would be okay in ole Miss Politicalboi Apr 2014 #1

Let's not forget peyote Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2014 #5

well, it's worth a try struggle4progress Apr 2014 #2

Can't wait until July 1st! joshcryer Apr 2014 #16

" THE EXERCISE OF RELIGION; AND FOR RELATED PURPOSES." dixiegrrrrl Apr 2014 #3

the bill was carefully worded to only refer to "state law" and marriage is regulated by the state... karend62 Apr 2014 #4

So that's an out then? TlalocW Apr 2014 #10

Actually, Section 1 (2) b may in fact argue the exact opposite. joshcryer Apr 2014 #14

My favorite law is the one of Unintended Consequences. (n/t) thesquanderer Apr 2014 #6

Title almost made my head explode illachick Apr 2014 #7

Fundamentalist Mormons will now flock to Mississippi. drm604 Apr 2014 #8

K&R DeSwiss Apr 2014 #9

The Buybull beaters will be quick to amend their noxious little poison bill identifying WHICH blkmusclmachine Apr 2014 #11

Don't start celebrating too quickly jmowreader Apr 2014 #12

Just use the economic argument. joshcryer Apr 2014 #13

They'll just counter with the "cake" argument jmowreader Apr 2014 #17

Text of the law: joshcryer Apr 2014 #15

More shoot-self-in-foot policy from Mississippi legislature karend62 Apr 2014 #18

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)

1. So toad licking would be okay in ole Miss

Reply to karend62 (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 08:50 PM

Apr 2014

It's my religious belief, along with some "spleaf".

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,023 posts)

5. Let's not forget peyote

Reply to Politicalboi (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 09:16 PM

Apr 2014

struggle4progress

(118,293 posts)

2. well, it's worth a try

Reply to karend62 (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 09:01 PM

Apr 2014

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)

16. Can't wait until July 1st!

Reply to struggle4progress (Reply #2)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 11:47 PM

Apr 2014

Hopefully thousands of gay Mississippians get married and get their certificates before the inevitable injunction goes out.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)

3. " THE EXERCISE OF RELIGION; AND FOR RELATED PURPOSES."

Reply to karend62 (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 09:10 PM

Apr 2014

Why, yes..........I do believe those letters ARE rainbow colored.

karend62

(29 posts)

4. the bill was carefully worded to only refer to "state law" and marriage is regulated by the state...

Reply to karend62 (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 09:13 PM

Apr 2014

TlalocW

(15,384 posts)

10. So that's an out then?

Reply to karend62 (Reply #4)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 10:51 PM

Apr 2014

If people start doing things based on their religious beliefs that the state doesn't like, or that's what's going to screw them in the end like gay marriages, etc? Not a legal mind here.

TlalocW

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)

14. Actually, Section 1 (2) b may in fact argue the exact opposite.

Reply to karend62 (Reply #4)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 11:43 PM

Apr 2014

(b) Laws "neutral" toward religion may burden religious exercise as surely as laws intended to interfere with religious exercise;

http://billstatus.ls.state.ms.us/documents/2014/html/SB/2600-2699/SB2681SG.htm

The anti-gay marriage law is intended to "interfere with religious exercise."

thesquanderer

(11,989 posts)

6. My favorite law is the one of Unintended Consequences. (n/t)

Reply to karend62 (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 09:58 PM

Apr 2014

illachick

(28 posts)

7. Title almost made my head explode

Reply to karend62 (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 10:15 PM

Apr 2014

Mississippi and "legalized same sex marriage" is like impossible in the same sentence without it being a joke, thank goodness it was unintentional or I might have leaped out of the window if Mississippi legislators intentionally gave people equal rights God forbid...

drm604

(16,230 posts)

8. Fundamentalist Mormons will now flock to Mississippi.

Reply to karend62 (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 10:16 PM

Apr 2014

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_fundamentalism

Mormon fundamentalism (also called fundamentalist Mormonism) is a belief in the validity of selected fundamental aspects of Mormonism as taught and practiced in the nineteenth century, particularly during the administrations of Joseph Smith, Jr. and Brigham Young, the first two presidents of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church). Mormon fundamentalists seek to uphold tenets and practices no longer held by mainstream Mormons (members of the LDS Church). The principle most often associated with Mormon fundamentalism is plural marriage, a form of polygyny first taught by Joseph Smith, Jr., the founder of the Latter Day Saint movement.

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)

9. K&R

Reply to karend62 (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 10:29 PM

Apr 2014

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)

11. The Buybull beaters will be quick to amend their noxious little poison bill identifying WHICH

Reply to karend62 (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 11:05 PM

Apr 2014

religions get to be raging assholes to everybody else. Lefty Churches obviously need NOT apply.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)

12. Don't start celebrating too quickly

Reply to karend62 (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 11:07 PM

Apr 2014

It allows them to burden your exercise of religion if it "is in furtherance of a compelling government interest."

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)

13. Just use the economic argument.

Reply to jmowreader (Reply #12)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 11:39 PM

Apr 2014

Gay marriage is good for the economy overall and thus is a "furtherance of a compelling government interest." Lee Badgett testified to those ends in the Proposition 8 case.

This ought to be good.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)

17. They'll just counter with the "cake" argument

Reply to joshcryer (Reply #13)

Fri Apr 4, 2014, 02:37 AM

Apr 2014

But...but...but...we wouldn't want to force someone with deeply held beliefs against homosexuality to bake a wedding cake for a gay wedding, now would we?

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)

15. Text of the law:

Reply to karend62 (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 11:46 PM

Apr 2014

http://billstatus.ls.state.ms.us/documents/2014/html/SB/2600-2699/SB2681SG.htm

I'm so confused as to what they're going for here. Section 5 is clearly intended to stop gay marriage since it would harm other religions, but banning an entire group of people is hardly the "least restrictive means of furthering that compelling governmental interest."

karend62

(29 posts)

18. More shoot-self-in-foot policy from Mississippi legislature

Reply to joshcryer (Reply #15)

Sat Apr 5, 2014, 10:24 AM

Apr 2014

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