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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 08:31 AM Apr 2014

Murder charges dismissed against Mississippi woman on trial for giving birth to a stillborn

The murder charge against Rennie Gibbs has been dismissed, but the state plans to re-present the case

KATIE MCDONOUGH


The murder charge against a Mississippi woman on trial for giving birth to a stillborn has been dismissed by a Circuit Court judge, according to a report from the Dispatch.

Rennie Gibbs was 16 years old and 36 weeks pregnant when she was admitted to a local emergency room, diagnosed with “fetal demise” and induced to give birth to a stillborn infant, a daughter she would name Samiya. According to experts who would later review her medical record, the most likely cause of death was “umbilical cord compression” — in plain terms, the umbilical cord had wrapped around the infant’s neck.

But Gibbs was charged with “depraved heart murder” after medical examiner Steven Hayne noted that an autopsy test had turned up trace amounts of a “cocaine byproduct” in Samiya’s blood. (No actual cocaine was found in the infant’s blood.) Hayne declared Samiya’s death a homicide, and Gibbs became the first woman in the state to face the charge of “depraved heart murder” — an act defined as having a “callus disregard for human life.” (For more on how this has unfolded over the last seven years, you should read Nina Martin’s excellent reporting on the case.)

But Circuit Court Judge Jim Kitchens this week dismissed the murder charge against Gibbs, noting that the law was unclear on the “appropriate” charge. “Gibbs was indicted prior to [Mississippi Supreme Court case Buckhalter v. State] and the law was unclear in Mississippi as to the appropriate charge, if any, to be levied when a pregnant woman allegedly consumed illegal drugs and allegedly caused the death of her unborn child,” Kitchens stated in the ruling.

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Murder charges dismissed against Mississippi woman on trial for giving birth to a stillborn (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2014 OP
Kick! Heidi Apr 2014 #1
. . niyad Apr 2014 #2
Thankful for the Mississippi Innocence Project and others like them mountain grammy Apr 2014 #3
Kick. riqster Apr 2014 #4
Good news for a very tragic situation davidpdx Apr 2014 #5
She can't EC Apr 2014 #6
It was a horrifying case in every possible respect: anti-woman, racist, hateful, and idiotic Hekate Apr 2014 #7
Is there anything decent to do in Mississippi.. LeftinOH Apr 2014 #8
Yes, the state was so concerned about Samiya's well-being before birth . . . Brigid Apr 2014 #9
Steven Hayne, Idiot Medical Examiner DeSwiss Apr 2014 #10
If it had been a white, middle or upper class mom gerogie2 Apr 2014 #11
I am certainly no expert in fetal development or childbirth, SheilaT Apr 2014 #12
These people are sick and depraved PumpkinAle Apr 2014 #13
This young woman needed comfort and support in a time of grief. klook Apr 2014 #14
+1 freshwest Apr 2014 #17
Sixteen? davidthegnome Apr 2014 #15
men sometimes makes me want to stand my ground. a lot. roguevalley Apr 2014 #16

mountain grammy

(26,623 posts)
3. Thankful for the Mississippi Innocence Project and others like them
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 10:18 AM
Apr 2014

around the country who are doing good works for nearly nothing to free innocent victims from a vicious and corrupt system. Since most of these victims are people of color while the prosecutors are white, there is no doubt at all that racism in play.

On a different thread there was a discussion about bigotry vs racism. A bigot will say "they all do drugs" and hate the teenager because she is African American. Racism tries to put her in prison for life.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
4. Kick.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 10:18 AM
Apr 2014

My rant on the topic:

Mississippi, your “justice” system sucks: teen mom accused of murder when her child was stillborn.
And they are vigorously pursuing the case, the bastards. The infant died because the umbilical cord was wrapped around its neck, 4 weeks before the due date. The young mother was traumatized, as you can imagine. Then the state decided that since she might possibly have had cocaine in her system, she was a horrible murdering scumbucket, and proceeded to charge her with murder.

Even though cocaine was never found in her system. Even though cocaine does not cause umbilical cords to strangle fetuses. Even though, in other words, there was no evidence to suggest a crime had been committed. Mississippi decided she was guilty as hell and indicted her.

A judge just called “bulls***” on these, well, bulls**** charges and threw the case out of court. The persecutor prosecuter is gonna try again. Why, you ask? Why would a “public servant” pursue such a case with no evidence of a crime or legal justification? Here’s why:

Number A, it’s Mississippi, and
Letter 2, here is a picture of the young lady being victimized by the DA:



Pretty much all you need to know about “why”, innit? F*** that DA.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
7. It was a horrifying case in every possible respect: anti-woman, racist, hateful, and idiotic
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 10:41 AM
Apr 2014

Others have covered the racism, which is blatant, but the anti-woman aspect goes to my heart like a knife. Good God, have Mississippi lawmakers no hearts? No mother, wives, or sisters? Why don't the women of Mississippi rise up as one against this?

My own daughter's firstborn had to be delivered by C-section because the cord was wrapped around his neck. My mother gave birth to a full-term stillborn boy, and her grief was immense. She named him David.

I rejoice that this young woman was exonerated, but what about all the other women and girls who are apparently to be treated like farm animals?

LeftinOH

(5,354 posts)
8. Is there anything decent to do in Mississippi..
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 10:45 AM
Apr 2014

besides to get the f*ck out of there? This isn't meant as South-bashing; specifically, it's Mississippi. Always, Mississippi.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
9. Yes, the state was so concerned about Samiya's well-being before birth . . .
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 10:45 AM
Apr 2014

Sure they were. What kind of prenatal care did her mom receive? And what kind of assistance would the state have provided this young mother to bring up her daughter after she was born? An African-American child in MS? Yeah, sure they gave a damn.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
12. I am certainly no expert in fetal development or childbirth,
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 10:55 AM
Apr 2014

but from everything I've ever read the umbilical cord getting wrapped around the neck is relatively common. It has NOTHING to do with anything the mother does while pregnant. Even if that mom had been doing cocaine every single day while she was pregnant (which probably wouldn't have been very good for the baby in other ways) the cord thing would have not have been the result.

PumpkinAle

(1,210 posts)
13. These people are sick and depraved
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 10:59 AM
Apr 2014

all wanting to be the "man" and taking this country and women's rights back a century.

And as to the pregnant women consuming drugs, etc. to stop her pregnancy - this is exactly why abortion should be legal.

klook

(12,157 posts)
14. This young woman needed comfort and support in a time of grief.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 11:01 AM
Apr 2014

Instead she was vilified, further traumatized, and treated as a criminal.

Beyond disgusting.

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
15. Sixteen?
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 11:36 AM
Apr 2014

A few things jump out at me. One - this girl is only sixteen. Not an adult by almost any stretch of the imagination. Hell, I'm turning thirty, and I still feel like a kid half the time. When I was sixteen, my main concern was the next awesome video game (now it's like, my third concern, or something) and not getting into trouble for forgetting to take out the garbage.

This poor girl went through 36 weeks of pregnancy, at sixteen years old - probably humiliated by school mates and neighbors, insulted, looked down upon for being a pregnant teen. A depraved heart murder? The people with the depraved hearts are the ones who wrote this idiotic legislation and the ones who indicted this poor kid. The depraved hearts belong to those who self-righteously judge a teenager for becoming pregnant, expecting a sixteen year old to be able to manage it on her own, despite the fact that all of these intolerant pricks judge with pre-conceived notions of what a pregnant sixteen year old must be like.

Note the last paragraph we see here: " “Gibbs was indicted prior to and the law was unclear in Mississippi as to the appropriate charge, if any, to be levied when a pregnant woman allegedly consumed illegal drugs and allegedly caused the death of her unborn child,” Kitchens stated in the ruling. "

A pregnant woman. Sixteen years old makes her a pregnant girl - not a woman, unless we are deciding to alter the definition of adulthood whenever it is convenient for religious fundamentalists and holier than thou dipshits.

Every time I hear a story of an infant born addicted to drugs, or stillborn because the mother was... I wonder where the Father was, I wonder where the parents of the pregnant teenager were. I wonder where our supposedly noble and just society was when someone needed help. Rather than reaching out a helping hand to these poor folks, so often people condemn them in ignorance and self righteous anger. "They were bad people because they did X". No. Society failed them because we paid their parents minimum wage, sent their grandparents to war in Vietnam as a result of the draft, cut the hell out of our social safety net, denied needed treatment and compassion to those who were ill or desperate.

I think of a co-worker of mine, who has five children, and a husband who cannot work due to illness. She makes eight dollars an hour and gets help from the state. Even when she and her husband both worked overtime, they still could not get by without it. Yet, in so many instances, they are judged for having children they "could not afford", or for "sitting around on their asses, getting paid for nothing". The greatest problem with our society is a lack of empathy. A lack of human understanding. The very foundation of most of our problems lies there. She did everything right - school, marriage, five kids, a house and a dog or three. But she struggles terribly because we live in a land of selfish, greedy assholes.

Depraved heart murder? The people who really murder hearts are the intolerant, the ignorant, the cruel - and most especially, the self righteous. I am so sick of their blather and arrogant babble that I frequently wonder what it would be like to live in the woods all by myself.

I feel deep sympathy for this girl. Had things been even slightly different - her story could very easily have been that of one of my sisters.

These so called concerned citizens, these so called Christians, these so called warriors for the common good - are bumbling, blathering imbeciles who need to stop writing legislation.


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