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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 01:19 PM Apr 2014

My EYES!

George W. Bush unveils paintings of world leaders on 'Today' show



The paintings will be part of the former president's first solo art exhibition, "The Art of Leadership: A President's Personal Diplomacy," opening this month at the George W. Bush Presidential Library and Museum in Dallas. SOURCE: Los Angeles Times

Giggling mass murderers, no matter how untalented, should not be lauded in the nation's press. Their examples should serve as warnings to prevent treason, warmongering, war profiteering and other assorted crimes.
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My EYES! (Original Post) Octafish Apr 2014 OP
I wouldn't line my bird cage with them Autumn Apr 2014 #1
That should be the official review. Octafish Apr 2014 #5
I would FiveGoodMen Apr 2014 #11
It would be animal cruelty. GoCubsGo Apr 2014 #60
Are you sure the bird wouldn't enjoy shitting on Bush? FiveGoodMen Apr 2014 #62
Sure, but who knows what kind of crud is on those things? GoCubsGo Apr 2014 #71
I was about to say the same thing. nt Bonobo Apr 2014 #73
MOBA might take them after the empty libraries are closed Warpy Apr 2014 #51
Personally, I would happily JEB Apr 2014 #67
Well I would too, but I think it would be cruel to force my birds to. Autumn Apr 2014 #68
I would malaise Apr 2014 #103
I'd like to see him paint the inside of a prison cell. calimary Apr 2014 #2
That is an excellent suggestion. Octafish Apr 2014 #6
When you have money and connections, you get to be whatever you want in the US siligut Apr 2014 #3
Absolutely. Octafish Apr 2014 #8
So glad to get a chance to keep this link. Great 'toon, as well. Thank you. n/t Judi Lynn Apr 2014 #117
He's just as qualified to have his own art exhibit as he was to be president. Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2014 #4
Well said, Gidney N Cloyd. Octafish Apr 2014 #10
The sad part mc51tc Apr 2014 #7
Meals of bread and water and hard labor for the rest of 43's natural days... Octafish Apr 2014 #12
Disgusting. Solly Mack Apr 2014 #9
They stink, too, of sulfur. Octafish Apr 2014 #14
Worse. They're complicit in the cover-up. Solly Mack Apr 2014 #16
obstruction of justice questionseverything Apr 2014 #55
gag trusty elf Apr 2014 #13
I love you. Solly Mack Apr 2014 #17
Now THAT's Art. Octafish Apr 2014 #18
Perfect, just perfect SummerSnow Apr 2014 #19
brilliant Norman Rockwell style nt grasswire Apr 2014 #27
LMAO!!!!!! This is the best!!! I love you too!! BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2014 #29
Oh, gawd, that's wonderful! Warpy Apr 2014 #52
Would that be Moron "Rockwell"? calimary Apr 2014 #72
The pretzel is a nice touch Blue Owl Apr 2014 #78
Classic. Thanks! LibDemAlways Apr 2014 #106
That is awesome! n/t mockmonkey Apr 2014 #113
It's repulsive he gets a gallery opening and press for that trash. Avalux Apr 2014 #15
Damn lib'rul Media!!! blkmusclmachine Apr 2014 #23
This guy should have a show at a few Presidential Libraries. Octafish Apr 2014 #38
The "Gallery" is the GW Bush library... SomethingFishy Apr 2014 #122
Hitler was an artist too Ichingcarpenter Apr 2014 #20
If he could have, he would have taken everybody else with him. Octafish Apr 2014 #39
Worse than Hitler! Crabby Appleton Apr 2014 #21
Did more harm to the nation -- destroying liberty and justice, impoverishing the middle class... Octafish Apr 2014 #41
Please reconsider this demwing Apr 2014 #92
Why should people walk away from the truth? Octafish Apr 2014 #97
All of that is true, but none of it makes him worse than Hitler. demwing Apr 2014 #109
Did you know the bank Prescott Bush was a director of was seized for collaboration? jmowreader Apr 2014 #118
Yes, I was aware. /nt demwing Apr 2014 #119
Out, out, damned spot!!! blkmusclmachine Apr 2014 #22
That IS it. Octafish Apr 2014 #48
Classic use of bourbon & water colors LannyDeVaney Apr 2014 #24
George W. Bush's Story About Vladimir Putin's Dog Explains So Much Octafish Apr 2014 #50
My God! llmart Apr 2014 #25
Like Midas of Feces. Octafish Apr 2014 #57
The emperors new clothes liberal N proud Apr 2014 #26
After 9-11, even DUers were falling over themselves to worship the ground the drunk walked on. Octafish Apr 2014 #58
Well, you know who else was a crap painter... geardaddy Apr 2014 #28
There are similarities of style. Octafish Apr 2014 #64
damn unionthug777 Apr 2014 #30
Velvet Smirko may bring accomplished missionary relief. Octafish Apr 2014 #85
thanks octafish unionthug777 Apr 2014 #95
Peace, my Friend. Peace. CLICK. Octafish Apr 2014 #100
Paint-by-numbers bearssoapbox Apr 2014 #31
DU helps people remember the Truth about the Drunken Coke Whore n Thief. Octafish Apr 2014 #91
Nope. He's Awful. Leith Apr 2014 #32
Experts agree: Idiocy In Art and Politics Octafish Apr 2014 #121
bad art by illiterate trash? already covered MisterP Apr 2014 #33
Here's good art. Octafish Apr 2014 #94
More proof the elite are increasingly corrupt - and totally out of touch with reality. reformist2 Apr 2014 #34
The quote on the wall got to me. Octafish Apr 2014 #120
Wonderful... zappaman Apr 2014 #35
In what way? Octafish Apr 2014 #37
Never heard of Triumph, huh? zappaman Apr 2014 #47
No. I just don't give attention to the same things you do, zappaman. Octafish Apr 2014 #87
Yes, those paintings you posted were soooooooo important. zappaman Apr 2014 #102
They help reveal the pysche of a mass murderer who served as figurehead for the United States. Octafish Apr 2014 #105
Sorry I thought you were making fun of Dubya's paintings and joined in... zappaman Apr 2014 #111
Smear all you want. Octafish Apr 2014 #112
Well...Elmer Wayne Henley Jr remains the best murderer/painter in Texas Tom Ripley Apr 2014 #36
Maybe there could be a show? Octafish Apr 2014 #88
He's no Bob Ross. edbermac Apr 2014 #40
Absolutely. Big, Big, Big Difference for Me. Octafish Apr 2014 #90
I did like the Whisp Apr 2014 #42
Art that Tells Us Nothing at All Octafish Apr 2014 #101
Bush or Serial Killer John Wayne Gacy Yavin4 Apr 2014 #43
This feels like a gallery of Hitler's wallpaper being displayed at Auschwitz. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #44
Recalling another fail 'artist' xxqqqzme Apr 2014 #45
It's so funny, everything they say and do turns out to be the opposite. Rex Apr 2014 #46
I have nothing, at all, to really say about those without a human soul. K&R n/t bobthedrummer Apr 2014 #49
Maybe we could sell prints of those paintings.......as dartboards! LongTomH Apr 2014 #53
Junior Bush sure is a lucky fellow. democrank Apr 2014 #54
He's better than me but... ryan_cats Apr 2014 #56
Yuk. The Toady Show devoted time to this crap for two days. GoCubsGo Apr 2014 #59
It's a way to present a murderous war monger in a folksy manner. Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #69
Look... Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2014 #61
I'm holding back judgement until the goat paintings are in view. L0oniX Apr 2014 #63
Did someone say goat? Octafish Apr 2014 #65
John Gacy was a painter too. Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #66
Mass Murder compared with Genocide Octafish Apr 2014 #86
I'm with you 110% my brother! Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #98
He's nowhere as good as Cecilia Gimenez. rug Apr 2014 #70
Criminal. Octafish Apr 2014 #75
That's all true, plus her intentions were good, unlike his. rug Apr 2014 #79
"Neanderthal Jesus" is a great way to describe * MisterP Apr 2014 #77
MAD did. rug Apr 2014 #80
Between the hideous art work and the BEYOND inane "motto" that whole wall needs to be blown up Number23 Apr 2014 #74
Who's the burn victim in the painting? bravenak Apr 2014 #76
The guy with no lips? Octafish Apr 2014 #83
Paint by numbers SoCalDem Apr 2014 #81
This is the Art of Forest Gump Octafish Apr 2014 #82
Wish he would have found his love for painting TBF Apr 2014 #84
his art of 'leadership' was to lead america into a disastrous, unnecessary war. spanone Apr 2014 #89
That is not even a good likeness of Pappy treestar Apr 2014 #93
The Charade in art polynomial Apr 2014 #96
They are all done in tempera paints. RoccoR5955 Apr 2014 #99
You know, my friend… when you think about it... MrMickeysMom Apr 2014 #104
The people who tried to overthrow FDR in 1933 had kids. Octafish Apr 2014 #107
I do believe you just linked one of the greatest threads from 2008, Octafish... MrMickeysMom Apr 2014 #108
Every. Day. Octafish Apr 2014 #110
...and SwampRat FlatBaroque Jul 2015 #123
Actually, I think W.'s painting is his strongest talent. DirkGently Apr 2014 #114
Good to see that George made it through the "Paint a Clown" class. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #115
K&R. I agree with you. Overseas Apr 2014 #116

Autumn

(45,105 posts)
1. I wouldn't line my bird cage with them
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 01:21 PM
Apr 2014

and they would be at the Goodwill for a quarter if anyone else had painted them.

 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
67. Personally, I would happily
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 08:32 PM
Apr 2014

defecate on them. The sick fuck should crawl under a rock and be glad he's not hanging from a rope.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
3. When you have money and connections, you get to be whatever you want in the US
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 01:24 PM
Apr 2014

And no one will laugh, at least not where they will be heard.

mc51tc

(219 posts)
7. The sad part
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 01:29 PM
Apr 2014

He signs them with 43 and will probably make millions selling them down the line.

I think the paintings are his "therapy dogs" for all he has to live with for the rest of his life.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
12. Meals of bread and water and hard labor for the rest of 43's natural days...
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 01:37 PM
Apr 2014

...making little rocks out of big rocks and he still would be getting off easy.



Some revealing art by the late Mark Lombardi.

Solly Mack

(90,769 posts)
16. Worse. They're complicit in the cover-up.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 01:45 PM
Apr 2014

Complicit in the revision of history.

Just like the universities and colleges that have his war criminal cohorts as honored speakers and such.

When you do your part to turn a war criminal into something other than a war criminal - you're part of the cover-up. Part of the promotion of a narrative that says torture didn't happen. That war crimes weren't committed.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
18. Now THAT's Art.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 01:46 PM
Apr 2014

Notice how the alcohol in the glass shows the true level of the artist and the discarded pretzel, his mind.

Warpy

(111,270 posts)
52. Oh, gawd, that's wonderful!
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 05:02 PM
Apr 2014

It makes me wish we had the old screen format so I could more easily crop it to fit.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
38. This guy should have a show at a few Presidential Libraries.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 03:54 PM
Apr 2014

Through his art, Colombian painter Fernando Botero breathes a new reality into the war in Iraq.



This exhibition opened a ways back at UC Berkeley. Details on the show and artist:



The art of Abu Ghraib

Louis Freedberg
Monday, January 22, 2007
SF Chronicle



AT LEAST two questions hang over the exhibit of Fernando Botero's paintings and drawings on the shameful abuses at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq that will open at the main library at UC Berkeley a week from today.

The first is what drove Botero, who typically draws whimsical, oversized pneumatic figures that have enormous popular appeal, to undertake these paintings in the first place.

The second is why they'll be displayed in a Berkeley library, rather than in the Museum of Modern Art, the Guggenheim in New York, or SFMOMA.

SNIP…



He said he wasn't intending to “shock people or to accuse anyone” with his Abu Ghraib depictions. He didn't do them for commercial reasons (they're not for sale). “You do it because it is in your gut, you are upset, you are furious, you have to get it out of your system.”



Nonetheless, he hopes that as Abu Ghraib fades from memory -- the prison is slated for demolition -- the paintings will be a reminder of what happened there. “People would forget about Guernica were it not for Picasso's masterpiece,” he said. “Art is a permanent accusation.”



CONTINUED…

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/CALIFORNIA-CULTURES-The-art-of-Abu-Ghraib-2622260.php



In the process of interpreting his reactions to what he learned about the secret torture prison in Iraq, the artist has revealed Bush and his cronies to be sadistic, brutal, criminal, undemocratic and most NAZI like. That’s what the craziest emperors of Rome and the Fuehrer of the Third Reich and the kleptocratiest Mafiya boss do. May history record the policies and behavior of Bush and his cronies to be what it is, most un-American.



Of course, the actions of the Bush Empire gives rise to the question:

Will there be an Amerikan Gulag?

Perhaps not, if enough Americans see these pictures and understand the stories they tell.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
122. The "Gallery" is the GW Bush library...
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 02:58 PM
Apr 2014

The only other place that offered to hang the pictures was Mrs Leman's 3rd grade art class.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
39. If he could have, he would have taken everybody else with him.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 03:57 PM
Apr 2014

As it was, the warmongering psychopath did not like the idea of Stalin getting hold of his sorry ass.



Dali captured the man's, uh, essence.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
41. Did more harm to the nation -- destroying liberty and justice, impoverishing the middle class...
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 04:05 PM
Apr 2014

...protecting the fascists and plutocrats above all.

Absolutely, Crabby Appleton. These are things Hitler was not able to achieve.



How they worked it.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
92. Please reconsider this
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 10:24 AM
Apr 2014

There's no way Bush is worse than Hitler, and saying so puts people in a position where they either have to just walk away from the truth, or defend that ratfuck Bush.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
97. Why should people walk away from the truth?
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 11:09 AM
Apr 2014

The similarities are there. So is the history.

If you disagree, I'll listen why. Until then, I'll keep reminding people George W Bush said:

"Money trumps peace."

The opposite of what President John F. Kennedy said, soon, 51 years ago:

"The United States, as the world knows, will never start a war."

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
109. All of that is true, but none of it makes him worse than Hitler.
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 12:18 PM
Apr 2014

To believe otherwise is to walk away from the truth.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
118. Did you know the bank Prescott Bush was a director of was seized for collaboration?
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 04:05 AM
Apr 2014
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

He was nailed under the Trading with the Enemy Act in 1943 for doing business with the Nazis long after it had been banned by the US Government.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
50. George W. Bush's Story About Vladimir Putin's Dog Explains So Much
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 04:55 PM
Apr 2014
"I looked in his eyes and saw his soul." -- George W Bush, upon first meeting Vladimir Putin



George W. Bush's Story About Vladimir Putin's Dog Explains So Much

BRETT LOGIURATO
Business Insider, APR. 4, 2014, 10:48 AM

Former president turned painter George W. Bush's haunting portrait of Russian President Vladimir Putin came with an interesting story that Bush said served as the basis for the portrait.

As Bush told it, during one encounter between him and Putin, the Russian president "dissed" Bush's Scottish terrier, Barney.

"As you know, our dear dog, Barney, who had a special place in my heart — Putin dissed him and said, ‘You call it a dog?'" Bush told his daughter, Jenna Bush Hager, in an interview Friday on the "Today" show.

A year later, Bush said he and former First Lady Barbara Bush went on a trip to Russia.

"Vladimir says, 'Would you like to meet my dog?' Out bounds this huge hound, obviously much bigger than a Scottish terrier, and Putin looks at me and says, 'Bigger, stronger, and faster than Barney.'"

Bush thought that anecdote revealed a lot about Putin's character, and he said he tried to reflect it in the portrait — one of a hollow, stone-faced Putin.

CONTINUED...

http://www.businessinsider.com/george-bush-vladimir-putin-dog-2014-4

llmart

(15,540 posts)
25. My God!
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 02:17 PM
Apr 2014

Those are just awful. Every damned thing that bloke has ever touched turns to shit. EVERYTHING.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
58. After 9-11, even DUers were falling over themselves to worship the ground the drunk walked on.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 08:14 PM
Apr 2014

Then, the true picture emerged. And we all knew the little turd from Crawford was all that.



The Odd Hypocrite: The NAZI Bush Celebrates the NAZI Defeat

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
100. Peace, my Friend. Peace. CLICK.
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 11:16 AM
Apr 2014
CLICK!

by Gahan Wilson



PHIL: This first slide here shows Madge and Bill standing right there in front of the New York Space Authority building, ready to start our trip. You can tell it was a pretty nice day on account they're not wearing any protective clothing except for goggles and a mask. The old guy got hit by our taxi–that was some wild driver we had–and the kid's playing a trick on him. Cute, hah?

MADGE: If he hadn't of done it someone else would of. CLICK.




PHIL: Now this here was some lucky shot. I was going to take a picture of Billy there, when this guy steps on the Hijacker Sentinel and pow, huh? What I mean is it really got him good. I asked why it done it and they said it was on account of he looked suspicious and if you study the expression on his face you can see how they got to wondering about him.

MADGE: It turned out he didn't have no gun or bomb or anything.

PHIL: Look, all they can do is the best they can and I'm glad they got those things up there protecting us, anyways. CLICK.




PHIL: Well then, after we got settled in our cabin and the ship took off and all, we went up to the observation lounge and I mean they had the place really fixed up swell. No less than sixteen TV sets all going at the same time, each on a different station, of course, and a bar and every kind of a slot machine and game like that you could wish for. Back there through that window you could see the universe out there if you wanted.

MADGE: I won a whole lot of credit at the Lucky Astronaut game but lost it all on the Zodiac Wheel. CLICK.




PHIL: Just a day out from Mars they announced everybody had to come and see the indoctrination lecture, and I hadn't been looking forward to that. It was something those stiffs at the United Nations had whipped up to teach you all about the Martians' customs and way of life and even their goddamn religion, for Christ's sake. But then I saw it was our social director, Earl, going to do it, and I relaxed right off.

MADGE: That Earl!

PHIL: You see, those UN creeps had given Earl a whole bunch of pictures and graphs and stuff he was supposed to teach us with, and I guess they'd bust a gut if they ever saw what he done with them. Here he is pretending to explain the sex life of a Martian; can you beat it? Only they don't have no sex life on account of they haven't had any babies in thousands of years. He sure had us all laughing. CLICK.




PHIL: Right at the space port they got these weird Martians trying to sell you pots and statues and stuff. Nothing but a lot of junk, if you ask me. Anyhow I was taking a picture of one of them when Billy did this here. It's a good thing those Martians can't talk or this one here would have really given the kid a couple of bad words I bet you.

MADGE: It's not that they can't talk, it's that they've taken an oath of silence. Don't you remember the joke Earl made on that, honey?

PHIL: Well, anyhow, the way that stuff broke up, he had a nerve trying to sell it. CLICK.


SOURCE and COMPLETE STORY:

http://www.bizbag.com/Click/click.htm

bearssoapbox

(1,408 posts)
31. Paint-by-numbers
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 03:15 PM
Apr 2014

done by a dry(?) drunk,(past?)cocaine user and war criminal.

The bushies will eat it up.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
121. Experts agree: Idiocy In Art and Politics
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 01:53 PM
Apr 2014

What George Bush should've painted, but didn't:



Idiocy In Art and Politics

by Abby Zimet
Common Dreams, 04.04.14 - 11:30 PM

Jesus. George Bush is painting now. Today marks the opening of an exhibit of two dozen clumsy portraits of world leaders - "Bush's little paintings" - at his presidential library in Dallas in a show dubbed "The Art of Leadership: A President's Personal Diplomacy." W is all excited, he told his daughter in an interview on NBC's "Today Show:" "I think they're going to be (like), 'Wow, George Bush is a painter." It's unclear which is more sickening: To read this drivel, or see the unironic, fawning coverage from the likes of CNN, which reports the paintings "reveal his softer side." Just kill us now. Thankfully, others are more astute about the "botched certainty" of these and earlier "treacly vacant scenes" and "empty-headed daubs" that reveal only a frightening "failure to grasp reality," with one critic likening it all to "being nice about the family idiot's latest art project: Aw, isn't that sweet, poor George has done paintings of world leaders. He's putting them in his little museum." He goes on, "Idiocy in art has its charms. In the man who ran the free world into bloodstained buffers, those charms quickly sour...This is the art of Forrest Gump." Best is a grimly hilarious series of faux torture portraits presented last year in Vanity Fair by Bruce Handy, and a suitably savage account in The Guardian of the paintings' "counterfeit studio banality" and the way they reflect Bush's "nightmare presidency," beginning with, "Many good artists do bad things.... So just because a painter has - for example - the blood of up to 136,012 dead Iraqis on his hands does not, in itself, prove that he lacks talent."

Thus: "Their vacancy, their stubborn refusal to offer anything beyond this: both the painting and the policy reflect a man untroubled by outside judgment, certain beyond any doubt of his rectitude and self-worth....We know how that turned out. One imagines that the excitement over Bush’s paintings forms part of a desperate national hunger for expiation from the unforgivable crime of his presidency, as if translating Bush into a sweet retiree at his easel will erase the illegal war, the obscene economic policy, the environmental spoliation, the executive power grab, the drowning of New Orleans. It is not to be. Bush’s little paintings will be forgotten, churned like a million other images through an unceasing news cycle and replaced tomorrow by a pop star’s accidental nudity or the 17 cutest animal pictures of all time. The Bush presidency, by contrast, endures all around us – and as we feel our way through the collapsing plutocracy he has bequeathed to us, we will need more than these wan portraits to ease the pain."


reformist2

(9,841 posts)
34. More proof the elite are increasingly corrupt - and totally out of touch with reality.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 03:33 PM
Apr 2014

In what world does anyone give the go ahead for a project like this, displaying this collection of horrendous artwork as if it is worthy of anyone's attention, beyond that of a team of psychologists and psychiatrists????

This world, sadly.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
120. The quote on the wall got to me.
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 10:30 AM
Apr 2014

"I was a big believer then, and still am, that personal diplomacy can be very useful and productive." -- George W Bush



Smiling salesmen learned on the knee, or whatever the bent is called, of a master.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
47. Never heard of Triumph, huh?
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 04:23 PM
Apr 2014

Why am I not surprised.
Here for anyone else who is humor challenged.

Triumph also had several memorable segments filmed during the 2004 Presidential Campaign. During that year's Democratic National Convention in Boston, which Triumph was eventually thrown out of, he and Michael Moore attempted to crash Bill O'Reilly's set. O'Reilly, getting makeup at the time, shouted, "If I have to come out there, Insult Dog, you're gonna be talking a lot higher than you are now." Later in the campaign, after the third presidential debate, Triumph went on a memorable tour of 'Spin Alley', the traditional post-debate press briefing in which high-profile members of both parties "in the tradition of Joseph Goebbels, Baghdad Bob, and Carson Daly, ladle out poop stew", according to Triumph. During this segment Triumph insulted many famous political strategists, including Karl Rove ("You're Bush's brains, Karl. I was expecting a much smaller man&quot , Paul Begala ("This guy's head was so far up Clinton's butt, they called him The Colonoscope&quot , and Joe Lockhart ("Can you spin a woman into thinking you don't look gross in the shower?&quot In an exchange with conservative commentator Ralph Reed, Triumph tried to ask a question about gay marriage, only to be rebuffed as Reed said, "I don't take questions from dogs." Triumph responded: "Oh, you'll take it, bitch!"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triumph,_the_Insult_Comic_Dog#2004_Presidential_Campaign

Off topic, but who are you picking this weekend for the NCAA tournament, my friend?
Remember, all work and no play makes for a dull, dull boy!

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
87. No. I just don't give attention to the same things you do, zappaman.
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 10:08 AM
Apr 2014

Seeing what you write about, though, gives me confidence I'm not missing anything important.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
105. They help reveal the pysche of a mass murderer who served as figurehead for the United States.
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 11:49 AM
Apr 2014

He was appointed to the job by the Supreme Court by a vote of 5-4.

Read and learn:



The Stolen Presidential Elections

Michael Parenti

In one of the closest contests in U.S. history, the 2000 presidential election between Democratic Vice-President Al Gore and Republican governor of Texas George W. Bush (hereafter referred to as Bush Jr. to distinguish him from his father who was also a president), the final outcome hinged on how the vote went in Florida. Independent investigations in that state revealed serious irregularities directed mostly against ethnic minorities and low-income residents who usually voted heavily Democratic. Some 36,000 newly registered voters were turned away because their names had never been added to the voter rolls by Florida’s secretary of state Kathleen Harris. By virtue of the office she held, Harris presided over the state’s election process while herself being an active member of the Bush Jr. state-wide campaign committee. Other voters were turned away because they were declared--almost always incorrectly--“convicted felons.” In several Democratic precincts, state officials closed the polls early, leaving lines of would-be voters stranded.

Under orders from Governor Jeb Bush (Bush Jr.’s brother), state troopers near polling sites delayed people for hours while searching their cars. Some precincts required two photo IDs which many citizens do not have. The requirement under Florida law was only one photo ID. Passed just before the election, this law itself posed a special difficulty for low-income or elderly voters who did not have drivers licenses or other photo IDs. Uncounted ballot boxes went missing or were found in unexplained places or were never collected from certain African-American precincts. During the recount, GOP agitators shipped in from Washington D.C. by the Republican national leadership stormed the Dale County Canvassing Board, punched and kicked one of the officials, shouted and banged on their office doors, and generally created a climate of intimidation that caused the board to abandon its recount and accept the dubious pro-Bush tally.1

Then a five-to-four conservative majority on the U.S. Supreme Court in a logically tortured decision ruled that a complete recount in Florida would be a violation of the Fourteenth Amendment’s equal protection clause because different counties have different ways of counting the votes. At that point Gore was behind by only a few hundred or so votes in Florida and was gaining ground with each attempt at a recount. By preventing a complete tally, the justices handed Florida’s electoral votes and the presidency to Bush, a stolen election in which the conservative activists on the Supreme Court played a key role.

Even though Bush Jr. lost the nation’s popular vote to Gore by over half a million, he won the electoral college and the presidency itself. Florida was not the only problem. Similar abuses and mistreatment of voters and votes occurred in other parts of the country. A study by computer scientists and social scientists estimated that four to six million votes were left uncounted in the 2000 election.2

The 2004 presidential contest between Democratic challenger Senator John Kerry and the incumbent president George W. Bush amounted to another stolen election. Some 105 million citizens voted in 2000, but in 2004 the turnout climbed to at least 122 million. Pre-election surveys indicated that among the record 16.8 million new voters Kerry was a heavy favorite, a fact that went largely unreported by the press. In addition, there were about two million progressives who had voted for Ralph Nader in 2000 who switched to Kerry in 2004. Yet the official 2004 tallies showed Bush Jr. with 62 million votes, about 11.6 million more than he got in 2000. Meanwhile Kerry showed only eight million more votes than Gore received in 2000. To have achieved his remarkable 2004 tally, Bush would needed to have kept all his 50.4 million from 2000, plus a majority of the new voters, plus a large share of the very liberal Nader defectors. Nothing in the campaign and in the opinion polls suggest such a mass crossover. The numbers simply do not add up.

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http://www.michaelparenti.org/stolenelections.html



Perhaps you'd know some of this if you weren't so busy doing whatever it is you do.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
111. Sorry I thought you were making fun of Dubya's paintings and joined in...
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 02:59 PM
Apr 2014

I didn't realize you actually like them.
My bad.
Please carry on with your "research" into the connection between crop circles and the BFEE.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
90. Absolutely. Big, Big, Big Difference for Me.
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 10:14 AM
Apr 2014

Not only does Bush seem down, he seems to be missing more and more boats in life.



While I didn't agree with his politics or style as an artist, I respected Mr. Ross.

Thanks for the kind reminder, edbermac.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
42. I did like the
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 04:07 PM
Apr 2014

gallery walls. The blue depicting the oceans the Chimperor would cross to kill people and the deep red for all the blood on his imbecilic hands.

But on a real note, I thought his daugher (Barbara? always get them mixed up) did the interview well. Considering it was a mass murdering freak, she had a pretty good presence about her.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
101. Art that Tells Us Nothing at All
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 11:25 AM
Apr 2014


George W Bush's portraits of world leaders: art that tells us nothing at all

Presidential library in Dallas exhibits two dozen paintings that are vacant, stubborn and servile – precisely what Bush intended

Jason Farago in New York
The Guardian, Friday 4 April 2014

Many good artists do bad things. Cellini and Caravaggio were both murderers; Schiele and Balthus had a thing for young girls; and more than one contemporary artist I could name has been tied up with tax evasion troubles. So just because a painter has – for example – the blood of up to 136,012 dead Iraqis on his hands does not, in itself, prove that he lacks talent.

George W Bush, whose nightmare presidency unleashed its latest aftershock this week when his dauphin John Roberts gutted our already minimal campaign finance laws, has been painting these past few years, and at his presidential library in Dallas he is exhibiting two dozen portraits of fellow world leaders. The show opens Saturday, and it has a title: The Art of Leadership: A President’s Personal Diplomacy.

“Diplomatic” is actually not a bad word to describe the orientation of these paintings. They are not bad so much as cautious, vacant, even servile – paintings by an artist anxious, or perhaps incapable, of doing anything that might leave a mark.

A responsible art critic, I should say at the start, does not review a show without seeing it, still less solely from stills taken from a hagiographic embarrassment of a Today show interview conducted by the artist’s daughter. (That is some serious media control: interviewed by your own child in your own library on a topic of your own choosing.) But with Bush, who famously made some of the worst decisions of any president since Reconstruction based on his “gut feeling”, an exception is in order. It’s hard to imagine that his portraits, with their notably flat composition and thin brushwork, gain much from being seen in situ.

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http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2014/apr/04/george-bush-portraits-world-leaders

PS: Thank you, Whisp. Your review of the show and analysis of the interview and its subject are spot-on. I've always felt sorry for the women in the Bush family. Their expressions often are very revealing.
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
46. It's so funny, everything they say and do turns out to be the opposite.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 04:23 PM
Apr 2014

When they say Peace and Prosperity, they mean War and Famine.

democrank

(11,096 posts)
54. Junior Bush sure is a lucky fellow.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 05:18 PM
Apr 2014

He still has hands to paint with, legs to stand on in front of his easel, unlike some of the soldiers who, because of his sickening lies, are at Walter Reed.

The only solo exhibition I care to see involving Junior Bush would be him behind bars wearing a war criminal jumpsuit.

George W. Bush, the worst president in American history.

ryan_cats

(2,061 posts)
56. He's better than me but...
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 05:59 PM
Apr 2014

He's better than me but that isn't saying much.
Luckily this solo art exhibit is at his presidential library and trailer.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
59. Yuk. The Toady Show devoted time to this crap for two days.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 08:18 PM
Apr 2014

I'm sure it has a lot to do with the fact that his kid works for them, but still... Disgusting. I had to turn it off and think about all the good Jimmy Carter has been doing since he left office as my brain bleach.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
69. It's a way to present a murderous war monger in a folksy manner.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 08:38 PM
Apr 2014

It's a deliberate strategy to market the Bush family.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
66. John Gacy was a painter too.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 08:29 PM
Apr 2014


That this guy is rehabilitating his murderous self as a folksy painter and not facing the international tribunal in the hague says volumes about the mistakes of looking forward.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
86. Mass Murder compared with Genocide
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 10:05 AM
Apr 2014


John Wayne Gacy was convicted of killing 33 boys and young men. George Walker Bush ordered 4,486 American men and women to unnecessary death in an illegal, immoral, unneeded and disastrous invasion on Iraq. No one knows how many innocent Iraqis died, but a good estimate is more than 130,000 people -- innocent victims of murder, killed merely for being residents of a country that had never committed a crime or act of aggression against the United States. And the people of Iraq certainly were no threat to the United States.

I know you know all that stuff, Jesus Malverde. My hands wouldn't stop typing.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
75. Criminal.
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 12:46 AM
Apr 2014


Demands Justice.

As you know, rug, what the panicked Ms. Gimenez did pales in comparison to treason, mass murder, and war profiteering that goes unpunished.

It's also important to note that, on any level of taste, she has a better eye than Bush.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
77. "Neanderthal Jesus" is a great way to describe *
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 12:58 AM
Apr 2014

though I'm surprised nobody's mentioned Bil Keane yet...

Number23

(24,544 posts)
74. Between the hideous art work and the BEYOND inane "motto" that whole wall needs to be blown up
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 12:43 AM
Apr 2014

"I was a big believer then, and still am, that personal diplomacy can be very useful and productive."

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
76. Who's the burn victim in the painting?
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 12:49 AM
Apr 2014

Is it a wounded warrior?





Oops.
On Edit: i see now that it is his father. Hitler was a better artist. Just saying.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
83. The guy with no lips?
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 09:42 AM
Apr 2014


Robbie Conal is the Real Deal: an artist, a sage, a warrior, a truth teller, a good guy.



Also illuminating, "Women with Teeth."

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
82. This is the Art of Forest Gump
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 09:33 AM
Apr 2014


This is the Art of Forest Gump

The comedy of a naive self-portrait apparently helped humanise the man most responsible for the 2003 invasion of Iraq

Jonathan Jones
theguardian.com, Friday 4 April 2014 14.05 EDT

George W Bush has found that magic recipe for public redemption that eludes Tony Blair. Don't waste time on globetrotting missions and elder-statesman opinions that do nothing to appease people who see you as a liar and warmonger and think you should be arrested. Take up painting instead.

That gentle, civilised art can wipe away a surprising quantity of blood.

SNIP...

It's like being nice about the family idiot's latest art project. Aw, isn't that sweet, poor George has done paintings of world leaders. He's putting them in his little museum. The soppiness is unmitigated: early online reactions blathered moist-eyed about him capturing Vladimir Putin's "soul".

His portrait of Putin actually looks like something you would find in one of America's trash-rich Salvation Army stores and buy to laugh at. It's got a classic amateur clumsiness and oddity to it. Bush has attempted to render shadow and shape in stylish blocks of fawn and woodchip and cookies 'n cream, but they don't sit right and the whole head looks mildly crazed. Perhaps this mad look is what is meant by revealing Putin's "soul", but it seems inept rather than insightful.

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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/04/george-bush-paintings

PS: I've seen your art via DU, SoCalDem. I'd bet at age 8 you also exhibited the talents of an artist.

TBF

(32,064 posts)
84. Wish he would have found his love for painting
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 09:49 AM
Apr 2014

much earlier in life. Would've saved the country a lot of $$$.

polynomial

(750 posts)
96. The Charade in art
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 11:07 AM
Apr 2014

Those that are connected to power and money, and act in foolish political ways still think they cannot be caught swindling the public.

George Bush is a glaring example of hubris, yet the Bush family after decades of business partnership with the Bin Laden family, the Arabs known to finance the Al Qaeda primary family the carried out 911, with efforts laced arrogance of a seventh century monarch displays his political chameleon patterns. George Bush makes the basic soul shattering attempt to public Pease by his art.

The lie maybe in that art piece, my wonder is if Bush really did that art piece from scratch, or several attempts? It has the maturity of a k-12 level that provokes a stare, not of admiration but of the arrogance that he, George, claims the talent of Rembrandt. We all know Picasso meant to draw with such abstract. But Rembrandt was one of the first great Realist.

That wall hanging could be the death of the Bush dynasty. If some were to find that the canvas’ are actually a huge picture likely enlarged by Photoshop numbered for color. Bright colors, we could understand why America is crawling out of the abyss, heck of job George.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
99. They are all done in tempera paints.
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 11:14 AM
Apr 2014

Like the kind that you use in Kindergarten.
Actually he had help. They were color by numbers, and he had assistance in reading the numbers, and matching them up to the colors.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
104. You know, my friend… when you think about it...
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 11:34 AM
Apr 2014

Poppa Bush, the war criminal's credo, after he posed his post WWII years as a leader of democracy, dovetailed so nicely into the Mission and Vision of his Carlyle Group ...

The only difference is, how one defines productive use of socialized subsidies of the war machine to specialize in private equity.

What an American icon, eh?

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
107. The people who tried to overthrow FDR in 1933 had kids.
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 12:05 PM
Apr 2014

Generation upon generation, knowing only service to power and property.



Kevin Phillips called them a ''multigenerational family of fibbers.''



The Barreling Bushes

Four generations of the dynasty have chased profits through cozy ties with Mideast leaders, spinning webs of conflicts of interest

by Kevin Phillips
Published on Sunday, January 11, 2004 by the Los Angeles Times

EXCERPT...

During these years, Bush's four sons - George W., Jeb, Neil and Marvin - were following in the family footsteps, lining up business deals with Saudi, Kuwaiti and Bahraini moneymen and cozying up to BCCI. The Middle East was becoming a convenient family money spigot.

Eldest son George W. Bush made his first Middle East connection in the late 1970s with James Bath, a Texas businessmen who served as the North American representative for two rich Saudis (and Osama bin Laden relatives) - billionaire Salem bin Laden and banker and BCCI insider Khalid bin Mahfouz. Bath put $50,000 into Bush's 1979 Arbusto oil partnership, probably using Bin Laden-Bin Mahfouz funds.

In the late 1980s, after several failed oil ventures, the future 43rd president let the ailing oil business in which he was a major stockholder and chairman be bought out by another foreign-influenced operation, Harken Energy. The Wall Street Journal commented in 1991, "The mosaic of BCCI connections surrounding Harken Energy may prove nothing more than how ubiquitous the rogue bank's ties were. But the number of BCCI-connected people who had dealings with Harken - all since George W. Bush came on board - likewise raises the question of whether they mask an effort to cozy up to a presidential son."

Other hints of cronyism came in 1990 when inexperienced Harken got a major contract to drill in the Persian Gulf for the government of Bahrain. Time magazine reporters Jonathan Beaty and S.C. Gwynne, in their book "The Outlaw Bank," concluded "that Mahfouz, or other BCCI players, must have had a hand in steering the oil-drilling contract to the president's son." The web entangling the Bush presidencies was already being spun.

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http://faculty.plts.edu/gpence/html/kevin_phillips.htm




The people who tried to overthrow FDR in 1933 had kids.

And they are the ones* screwing America now.

What's different today, is we don't have Smedley Butler or FDR to stop them.



Baron de Rothschild and Prescott Bush, share a moment and some information, back in the day.

* Of course, it's not just a few rich families's offspring who screw the majority today. They've hired help and built up the giant noise machine to continue their work overthrowing the progress FDR and the New Deal brought America for 80 years.

Why would the nation and world's richest people do that? Progress costs money. And they don't want to pay for it, even when they've gained more wealth than all of history put together. Instead, whey continue to work -- legally, through government and lobbyists -- to amass even more, transferring the wealth of the many to themselves.

And instead of an armed mob led by a war hero on a white horse, as planned in 1933, their weapon since Pruneface made his first payment to the Ayatollah has been "Supply Side Economics." To most Americans, that means Trickle-Down.



Rothschild and Freshfields founders’ had links to slavery, papers reveal

By Carola Hoyos
Financial Times

Two of the biggest names in the City of London had previously undisclosed links to slavery in the British colonies, documents seen by the Financial Times have revealed.

Nathan Mayer Rothschild, the banking family’s 19th-century patriarch, and James William Freshfield, founder of Freshfields, the top City law firm, benefited financially from slavery, records from the National Archives show, even though both have often been portrayed as opponents of slavery.

Far from being a matter of distant history, slavery remains a highly contentious issue in the US, where Rothschild and Freshfields are both active.

Companies alleged to have links to past slave injustices have come under pressure to make restitution.

JPMorgan, the investment bank, set up a $5m scholarship fund for black students studying in Louisiana after apologising in 2005 for the company’s historic links to slavery.

CONTINUED (with registration, etc) ...

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7c0f5014-628c-11de-b1c9-00144feabdc0.html



And Americans wonder why Wall Street gets ahead.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
108. I do believe you just linked one of the greatest threads from 2008, Octafish...
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 12:18 PM
Apr 2014

I was more of a lurker then. I'm saving that sucker to later indulge.

P.S. I miss SLaD, don't you?



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