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rsmith6621

(6,942 posts)
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 05:01 PM Apr 2014

Seattle Police Shoot and Kill a 26 Year Old Chef



http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2014/04/04/the-man-seattle-police-killed-yesterday-26-year-old-chef-cody-spafford

Posted by Ansel Herz on Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 11:36 AM

Yesterday afternoon, Seattle police officers shot and killed a man they said had robbed a bank and fled, and then crashed his silver sedan. According to police, the man was holding a knife when he was killed.

Cody Spafford, a chef at Ballard oyster bar Walrus and Carpenter, was his name. He was 26 years old and had no violent criminal record.

"He was incredible. He worked with us for three and a half years," says Renee Erickson, one of the restaurant's co-owners. "And he was completely loyal and hard working and just as sweet as you can imagine. He was just, you know funny. Not anything like what's being said right now. We didn't know he was struggling this bad.


WHEN WILL THE SPD LEARN HOW TO DEESCALATE THESE KIND OF SITUATIONS
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Seattle Police Shoot and Kill a 26 Year Old Chef (Original Post) rsmith6621 Apr 2014 OP
They won't upaloopa Apr 2014 #1
Attacking the cops with a deadly weapon usually results in death for the attacker. ManiacJoe Apr 2014 #2
Neither of us were there. former9thward Apr 2014 #4
I can only judge on what is being reported. ManiacJoe Apr 2014 #5
Dead men tell no tales. nt Cali_Democrat Apr 2014 #6
Show me the video. Savannahmann Apr 2014 #10
There is most likely no video. ManiacJoe Apr 2014 #11
Then I doubt the statement of the police Savannahmann Apr 2014 #15
"Seattle Police Kill Armed Bank Robber" would be a more apt title, but it would be nice if they had dionysus Apr 2014 #3
He was holding a knife... sakabatou Apr 2014 #7
If the story happened as it was reported watchingoveryou Apr 2014 #8
It could be sakabatou Apr 2014 #9
Most cops do not have tasers. ManiacJoe Apr 2014 #12
I know. One trains for it. sakabatou Apr 2014 #17
A lot more information here: B2G Apr 2014 #13
Running at cops with a large knife B2G Apr 2014 #14
So what's the appropriate course of action in this situation? Earth_First Apr 2014 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author linuxman Apr 2014 #18
Nice headline. linuxman Apr 2014 #19

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
1. They won't
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 05:07 PM
Apr 2014

The idea is that they want to go home at night so anything that looks like it could interfere with that has to be taken out.

former9thward

(32,023 posts)
4. Neither of us were there.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 08:02 PM
Apr 2014

Just the police and they won't talk. The Blue line and all. From the links it does not appear he was "attacking the cops." But the cops will shoot because they can.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
10. Show me the video.
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 05:23 AM
Apr 2014

The news story said that the cop had been involved in two previous shootings. In other words, this is the third person he shot. I'd like to see the video before I believe anything.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
15. Then I doubt the statement of the police
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 01:08 PM
Apr 2014

Because I have seen video of them shooting knife wielding suspects before. Like this one.



There the cops lied and said that he was armed with a knife, and lunged at them.

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
3. "Seattle Police Kill Armed Bank Robber" would be a more apt title, but it would be nice if they had
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 07:38 PM
Apr 2014

found a non lethal way to take him in. then again, he could have surrendered.

sakabatou

(42,155 posts)
7. He was holding a knife...
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 03:15 AM
Apr 2014

why couldn't tasers be used at the very least? Then again, there are hand-to-hand techniques...

 

watchingoveryou

(34 posts)
8. If the story happened as it was reported
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 03:27 AM
Apr 2014

They had no choice , once a guy gets 15 feet away with a big fixed blade knife it's game over.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
13. A lot more information here:
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 12:58 PM
Apr 2014

snip:

Officers and robbery detectives entered the courtyard of the home to surround the man and spotted him running onto the roof a detached garage. As the man ran across the garage, away from officers and out of view, a detective scaled a wall adjacent to the garage to get to higher ground and get a better view. As soon as the detective ascended the wall, he saw the man standing nearby, holding a large knife, police said.

According to police, a detective began talking to the man and repeatedly ordered him to drop the knife, but he refused, and a lieutenant at the scene called for officers with stun guns to come to the courtyard.

Investigators said that before the officers with stun guns arrived, the man, with knife in hand, ran toward the detective. When he was within 15 feet of the detective, the detective fired multiple rounds from a rifle, striking the man. Officers called for medics and began performing CPR on the man, but he died at the scene.

“Although officers armed with less-lethal tools were responding to the incident at the time of the shooting, police are trained to use deadly force when facing a threat from a deadly weapon, like a gun or knife,” a Seattle Police Department news release said.




http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/details-emerge-dead-man-identified-madison-park-ba/nfSLN/

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
14. Running at cops with a large knife
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 01:02 PM
Apr 2014

is a sure way to get yourself dead.

I don't see how the cops were out of line here.

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
16. So what's the appropriate course of action in this situation?
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 01:19 PM
Apr 2014

Hate on cops for rear entry gunshot wounds.

Hate on cops for sexually harassing traffic stops.

Hate on cops for arresting journalists and photographers.

Hate on cops for using their positions of authority to recieve favors.

There are a multitude of reasons to hate on cops which justify community outcry and activism.

However...charge a cop with a deadly weapon. I will fault no LEO for taking split-second decisive action to intervene by drawing and discharging their service weapon.

FFS, have some clarity in your sense of reality.

Response to Earth_First (Reply #16)

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