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11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 06:07 PM Apr 2014

This just occurred to me, and it's troubling. It makes me question if I'm a bigot.

I was coming home from a Wizards game a couple of nights ago. While standing on the platform at the Gallery Place metro stop and waiting for a train, someone behind me started shouting, "Praise the Lord, bless His name!", etc. I didn't think anything about it, and simply glanced over my shoulder to check the guy out. But now I'm thinking about (and acknowledging to myself) that if I had heard a shout of "Allahu Akbar!" I wouldn't have wasted time on a look. I would have simply gotten my ass moving in the opposite direction ASAP.
I don't like that my reactions would be so different, but there it is.

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arcane1

(38,613 posts)
1. If it helps, I've never heard someone shout "Allahu Akbar!"
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 06:13 PM
Apr 2014

So I would turn and look if only because it's outside my normal experience. In fact, the only time I usually encounter the written phrase is in the context of a suicide bomber, so the association is technically there even if it's not intended on my part.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
2. i grew up learning that is the best way to fight bigotry
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 06:14 PM
Apr 2014

to examine one's own tendencies.

Do people learn that anymore?

 

CFLDem

(2,083 posts)
3. Considering reality
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 06:16 PM
Apr 2014

I think it's pretty reasonable to be a little unnerved by someone randomly shouting 'Allahu Akbar'.

Is it always justified? No.

Is it the most enlightened or PC thing to do? No.

Should you feel guilty? Not at all.

The religious fundies who malign Allah's name with violence should bear all the guilt.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
4. I don't think it's necessarily an indication of bigotry.....
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 06:17 PM
Apr 2014

To be frankly honest, if I may, it does sound like there may be some semi-conscious low-level prejudice. By the way, this is not intended to imply anything negative; this can happen to even some of the nicest people.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
5. I would get creeped out...
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 06:31 PM
Apr 2014

...either way. Loud exclamations of one's faith are unnerving. Just watch any demonic horror movie.

I'd say if you suffer from any latent bigotry, it's non-threatening. Your conscious actions speak louder than your subconscious reactions.

Arkansas Granny

(31,518 posts)
8. The mere fact that you are questioning your motives convinces me that you are not a bigot.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 06:35 PM
Apr 2014

A bigot wouldn't do that kind of soul searching.

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
10. No more so than thinking every gun owner is a psycho who wants to kill everyone
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 06:39 PM
Apr 2014

Less than one percent of muslims/gun owners harm others - yet folks on the right/left have the same fears of people in those groups.

Nitram

(22,822 posts)
11. I've often heard Muslims say "Allahu Akbar!"
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 06:45 PM
Apr 2014

...when I was abroad, in countries where many Muslims lived. It never sounded to me anything other than a joyful, "Praise the Lord!" or "Thank God!". Not scary in the least.

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
13. Statistical evidence
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 07:01 PM
Apr 2014

How many public "Praise the Lords" vs "Allahu Akbars" have resulted in innocent people being blown to pieces in recent times?

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
14. We absorb bigotry through the skin, but we do not have to practice what is in there
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 07:09 PM
Apr 2014

My father thought that being gay was horrible, not sure why exactly, but he did. I could not listen to Johnny Mathis without his making cracks. Not that he was black but that he was gay. Yet today, so many people have come out to me, people I have known their entire or the majority of their lives. I feel so close to them, yet I know some times something slips out that offends them, I just don't think before I speak. I apologize and they forgive me, we have known each other so long, but I always wonder if they hate me some times. It is hard to be perfect, sometimes we have to forgive ourselves. Someday I will learn how. But I think it is the intent, don't have the intent and regret when you do something wrong and move on and I don't believe you are a bigot in your heart.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
15. i would probably think both would be funny
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 07:13 PM
Apr 2014

i have heard the praise god, jesus shouts many times and i just found it funny. and it would probably be the same if i heard the allah thing.

when i was in india i found the muslim call to prayer kind of fascinating though. it's not something that happens here. i'm not sure they do it in areas where there are more muslims. but i think i felt that way about a lot of things just being in a foreign place.

Drew Richards

(1,558 posts)
16. Nope not a bigot but maybe a bit naive. If I heard some nut shout praise the lord I would
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 07:36 PM
Apr 2014

Duck identify predict determine and execute a quick retreat from the edge of the platform...same if someone shouted Allah Akbar or SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP...Lots of nut in this world pushing people off platforms or attacking others for no reason besides the fact that they are imbalenced....

Thats just me though.

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