Was repealed by the 13th Amendment.

The impudence of these exploitative cretins never ceases to amaze.

. . . . or something along those cliched lines.

Where does the pic come from? I want to steal it, if permissible.

Pretty easy. Right click on the image, then select "Save as" and it'll be on your hard drive in the Downloads folder. You can even change the name to something more usable.

I thank you - I do know that, though there was a time I didn't until someone as nice as you explained it to me. But by "permissible" I mean who owns it?

Yes I understand that technically there is copyright and all that, but the people who make these expect them to be shared (though who knows whether they got permission from whoever took the original photo)... I doubt you would even be able to track down the original creator of one if you tried.

Actually I just looked and I might be wrong... this one looks like it might have originated here: http://silencedmajority.blogs.com/silenced_majority_portal/2013/05/index.html

What I usually do when trying to look up where an image came from is use tineye.com ... it lets you put in an image URL or upload one and will look through its database for matches. I only see the one match linked above for this, but it's also possible that it just hasn't indexed other ones.

THAT'S SOCIALISM!!!!

I also know that some artists/writers/photogs are trying to make a living on-line. Personally, I think that if anyone posts an image they don't want reproduced without payment they should put a C on it - but they don't, always. And some don't want $ but do want attribution. I just try to abide by the wishes of the creator; having no wit myself, I have a vast appreciation for the wit others share and so want to "do right" by them if possible.

Grateful for the info shared re: my question.

... employees, doesn't deserve to remain in business. Period.

Close your doors asshole, you are easily replaced.

Any moron can pay people less money than other people get paid, and make a profit. Hell I guess I can start up a burger place and in this small town if I pay $1/hr I bet I'll find people who have no other options and make a profit! That's plain dumb.

Paying people less is not smart, not thriving business, just miserable exploitation.

If a business doesn't have enough demand to be able to pay its employees well, then it's failing.

Too many small businesses cannot, because they cannot compete against the subsidized franchises, the big box stores, the money-laundering fronts, and the illegal immigrant abusers.

And those "going concerns" that might actually be legal and legit. are being eaten alive by the vulture capitalists. They haven't long to live, either.

It's gonna be an amazing crash, when it comes. We will be back to barter, and better for it, once "the surplus population" has died off, to quote a Scrooge.

The trick is to remove the cancer without killing the patient.

I actually don't think capitalism works, based on what I was saying before... the owner makes more by paying people less.

Sure, it also motivates people to work, but with automation there's less need for jobs that create traditional merchandise. You can't just open a store that makes hats. But if a business creates a new and innovative product I think it might stand a better chance.

Not work at things.

Worst type of motivation

Because then we the taxpayers have to provide additional support for His/Her employees to survive. I want to call it what Corporate Welfare.

for him to live on too.
That restaurant and any like him will never see my business

He wouldn't entertain that notion. Perhaps the citizenry needs to stop acquiescing to the tin gods of commerce and finance in the halls of consumerism.

I know who I'm rooting for.

-Laelth

In fact I amenability to change is a criteria the deem important enough to explore during pre employment interviews. I assume they are all comfortable with change to have lasted in business for so long.

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No such luck.

Another restaurant to cross off my list. BTW, What's with the "Glory Days"? Seeking religious exemption?

Which makes them feel sad and old, which makes them order another beer.

I wish they hadn't used the Boss's song for their crappy restaurant.

His business model is getting his customers to directly pay his labor costs through tipping, after he has extracted some of the tips for his own profit. Fuck him, and cry me a river.

:fistshake:

You don't see him whining about that.

I wish we could take all these people and isolate them in their own private little world where they could feed off each other.

-- Mal

is not based on capitalism, it's based on feudalism. Serfs work for nothing, because that's what he wants to pay them.
A proper capitalist system would pay workers an amount that would allow them to purchase the goods and/or services that are sold.
If one does not do this, he is expecting workers to essentially work for free. Especially tipped workers.

If you can't pay livable wages then you ought not to have a business. It's that simple.

A restaurant lobby then headed by - Herman Cain.

The restaurant industry (in 1996), led by the National Restaurant Association -- and its board chairman Herman Cain, who would later become the group's president -- successfully pressured lawmakers to have the minimum wage for tipped employees separated from the increase and kept at $2.13.

Yup! That Herman "Spermin" Cain. The bad part - Clinton and the Democrats went along with it.

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/12/the-20-million/

This bears repeating: Alaska, California, Minnesota, Montana, Nevada, Oregon and Washington all require employers to pay tipped employees the same wage as non-tipped employees. None of those states seem to have a shortage of restaurants.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipped_wage_in_the_United_States

A bigger threat to his business model is "sports-themed family restaurant with thirty TVs and a huge bar in the middle," the kind of place his restaurants are, is the most overpopulated segment of the restaurant industry.

Fact after chart after graph after study proves that idea dead freaking wrong, and if you have workers with no disposable income, there will be no DEMAND. That's not "Economics 101", that's Common Freaking Sense.

I mean, no one wants an entrepreneur to feel pain or close down. I just have to understand why these people thought that they could get away with paying people a pittance forever . . . and it IS a pittance. With studies showing that 40% of workers now making LESS than the inflation-adjusted minimum wage of 1968, it borders on idiotic to think that a proper inflation correction (which used to be sound economics and sound capitalism but is now apparently "SOSHULTITS" in 2014) is "asking too much".

Is it that they just want every other company besides theirs to get demand going by increasing worker's wages?

I'm already boycotting Papa Toilet's pizza and several others.

FWIW I did restaurant work while in college. Physically it was the most demanding job I ever did. These people deserve better than minimum wage.

construction worker for the last 30 years and my stint as a short order cook in an insanely busy restaurant was way more physically and mentally taxing. Restaurant work is a bitch.

there's got to be a way to get those workers better paid without killing the business.

(What I imagine some plantation owner said before firing on Fort Sumter.)

a razor thin profit margin while the chains do not.

You have to be a complete sociopath to think like that!,

f*** him

Headline might as well say the above.

act like they are the only one that will have to pay their workers more. Like their competitors will still get to pay the old rate. The playing field is still level! It's just elevated slightly from where it used to be.

After all, back during Ike in the 50s when the tax rate was over 90% NOBODY had a job.

Right?

which depends or thrives on exploitation is morally bankrupt and is already a failure. Mr. Garner should rethink his model or close his doors.