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Last night I saw a truly disgusting ad agains Kay Hagan.....just unbelievable!!
Americans for Prosperity has already spent $7 million on ads against Kay Hagan. I wonder how many people who saw that ad will say, "We have to get rid of her"? What has this country come to that these nasty ads are the norm?
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The Facts About The Koch Brothers
1. The Kochs want to abolish Social Security.
“In 1980, David Koch ran in and funded a presidential campaign that called Social Security “The Ultimate Pyramid Scheme” and promised to abolish and replace it.” Read more.
2. The Kochs want to eliminate minimum wage laws.
“According to Charles Koch, the U.S. needs to get rid of the minimum wage, which he counts as a major obstacle to economic growth.” Read more.
3. The Kochs are against extending emergency unemployment benefits.
“It causes employers to face higher taxes, too, which discourages them from hiring new employees.” Read more.
4. The Kochs spent $400 million on misleading attack ads in the last election cycle.
via Republic Report
“A labyrinth of tax-exempt groups and limited-liability companies helps mask the sources of the money, much of which went to voter mobilization and television ads attacking President Obama and congressional Democrats, according to tax filings and campaign finance reports.” Read more.
5. The Kochs want to put insurance companies back in charge of your health care.
“It articulated a take-no-prisoners legislative strategy that had long percolated in conservative circles: that Republicans could derail the health care overhaul if conservative lawmakers were willing to push fellow Republicans — including their cautious leaders — into cutting off financing for the entire federal government. … The billionaire Koch brothers, Charles and David, have been deeply involved with financing the overall effort. A group linked to the Kochs, Freedom Partners Chamber of Commerce, disbursed more than $200 million last year to nonprofit organizations involved in the fight.” Read more.
6. The Kochs are trying to dismantle our public education system.
“National advocacy groups powered by the Koch brothers and other conservative megadonors have found a new cause ripe with political promise… Push to expand school choice by offering parents tax credits or vouchers to help pay tuition at private and religious schools. Next, rally the troops to abolish the U.S. Department of Education. Then it’s on to eliminating teacher tenure.” Read more.
7. The Kochs want to dismantle Medicare as we know it.
“The Ryan plan to eliminate traditional Medicare was described in the media as a ‘Tea Party proposal.’ But it would be more accurate to call it a ‘Koch proposal,’ an ideological scheme to realize long-standing ultra-right hopes to privatize and radically shrink a major national social program.” Read more.
8. The Kochs are against measures that would reduce the gap between the wages women and men earn for the same work.
“IWF-affiliated writers have argued that the gender gap in income exists because of women’s greater demand for flexibility, fewer hours, and less travel in their careers, rather than because of sexism.” Read more.
9. The Kochs want even more tax breaks for themselves.
“They are known for bankrolling conservative, Libertarian and Tea Party causes and became poster boys for corporate tax reform last year when an Obama Administration official suggested Koch is organized as an S Corp. and so pays no corporate level taxes.” Read more.
UPDATE: The Kochs have issued a statement disputing the claim made by the official. The Kochs have supported the Ryan budget, which provides tax cuts for the wealthy and protects taxpayer subsidies for big businesses and oil companies.
kochs_unionmembers
via The New Republic
10. The Kochs made improper payments to win contracts in Africa, India and the Middle East. And they sold millions of dollars of equipment to Iran, a state sponsor of terrorism.
“Internal company records show that Koch Industries used its foreign subsidiary to sidestep a U.S. trade ban barring American companies from selling materials to Iran. Koch-Glitsch offices in Germany and Italy continued selling to Iran until as recently as 2007, the records show.” Read more.
11. The Kochs lobbied against recognition of formaldehyde as a cancer-causing carcinogen because it might be bad for their business.
“A prominent philanthropist, cancer survivor, and American businessman, David Koch, has given millions to the cause of cancer research, while his company—Koch Industries—has lobbied against formal recognition of formaldehyde as a carcinogen, The New Yorker reported in a piece published today.” Read more.
12. The Kochs rank as one of America’s most toxic air polluters.
13.The Kochs have received over $88 million in government subsidies.
14. The Kochs have admitted they have “a radical philosophy.”
“Charles Koch seems to have approached both business and politics with the deliberation of an engineer. ‘To bring about social change,’ he told Doherty, requires ‘a strategy’ that is ‘vertically and horizontally integrated,’ spanning ‘from idea creation to policy development to education to grassroots organizations to lobbying to litigation to political action.’ The project, he admitted, was extremely ambitious. ‘We have a radical philosophy,’ he said.” Read more.
http://www.reid.senate.gov/koch-facts#.U0AZsa1dUi4
Think what this means in terms of what the GOP has been doing. They all need to be voted out of office at the local, state and federal level. To claim both parties are doing the same, belies the path of the money being put out by the Koches. And the intent of each legislative action put forward by ALEC and the GOP.
From the thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024781021
to DearAbby and Triana.
1. The Kochs want to abolish Social Security.
“In 1980, David Koch ran in and funded a presidential campaign that called Social Security “The Ultimate Pyramid Scheme” and promised to abolish and replace it.” Read more.
2. The Kochs want to eliminate minimum wage laws.
“According to Charles Koch, the U.S. needs to get rid of the minimum wage, which he counts as a major obstacle to economic growth.” Read more.
3. The Kochs are against extending emergency unemployment benefits.
“It causes employers to face higher taxes, too, which discourages them from hiring new employees.” Read more.
4. The Kochs spent $400 million on misleading attack ads in the last election cycle.
via Republic Report
“A labyrinth of tax-exempt groups and limited-liability companies helps mask the sources of the money, much of which went to voter mobilization and television ads attacking President Obama and congressional Democrats, according to tax filings and campaign finance reports.” Read more.
5. The Kochs want to put insurance companies back in charge of your health care.
“It articulated a take-no-prisoners legislative strategy that had long percolated in conservative circles: that Republicans could derail the health care overhaul if conservative lawmakers were willing to push fellow Republicans — including their cautious leaders — into cutting off financing for the entire federal government. … The billionaire Koch brothers, Charles and David, have been deeply involved with financing the overall effort. A group linked to the Kochs, Freedom Partners Chamber of Commerce, disbursed more than $200 million last year to nonprofit organizations involved in the fight.” Read more.
6. The Kochs are trying to dismantle our public education system.
“National advocacy groups powered by the Koch brothers and other conservative megadonors have found a new cause ripe with political promise… Push to expand school choice by offering parents tax credits or vouchers to help pay tuition at private and religious schools. Next, rally the troops to abolish the U.S. Department of Education. Then it’s on to eliminating teacher tenure.” Read more.
7. The Kochs want to dismantle Medicare as we know it.
“The Ryan plan to eliminate traditional Medicare was described in the media as a ‘Tea Party proposal.’ But it would be more accurate to call it a ‘Koch proposal,’ an ideological scheme to realize long-standing ultra-right hopes to privatize and radically shrink a major national social program.” Read more.
8. The Kochs are against measures that would reduce the gap between the wages women and men earn for the same work.
“IWF-affiliated writers have argued that the gender gap in income exists because of women’s greater demand for flexibility, fewer hours, and less travel in their careers, rather than because of sexism.” Read more.
9. The Kochs want even more tax breaks for themselves.
“They are known for bankrolling conservative, Libertarian and Tea Party causes and became poster boys for corporate tax reform last year when an Obama Administration official suggested Koch is organized as an S Corp. and so pays no corporate level taxes.” Read more.
UPDATE: The Kochs have issued a statement disputing the claim made by the official. The Kochs have supported the Ryan budget, which provides tax cuts for the wealthy and protects taxpayer subsidies for big businesses and oil companies.
kochs_unionmembers
via The New Republic
10. The Kochs made improper payments to win contracts in Africa, India and the Middle East. And they sold millions of dollars of equipment to Iran, a state sponsor of terrorism.
“Internal company records show that Koch Industries used its foreign subsidiary to sidestep a U.S. trade ban barring American companies from selling materials to Iran. Koch-Glitsch offices in Germany and Italy continued selling to Iran until as recently as 2007, the records show.” Read more.
11. The Kochs lobbied against recognition of formaldehyde as a cancer-causing carcinogen because it might be bad for their business.
“A prominent philanthropist, cancer survivor, and American businessman, David Koch, has given millions to the cause of cancer research, while his company—Koch Industries—has lobbied against formal recognition of formaldehyde as a carcinogen, The New Yorker reported in a piece published today.” Read more.
12. The Kochs rank as one of America’s most toxic air polluters.
13.The Kochs have received over $88 million in government subsidies.
14. The Kochs have admitted they have “a radical philosophy.”
“Charles Koch seems to have approached both business and politics with the deliberation of an engineer. ‘To bring about social change,’ he told Doherty, requires ‘a strategy’ that is ‘vertically and horizontally integrated,’ spanning ‘from idea creation to policy development to education to grassroots organizations to lobbying to litigation to political action.’ The project, he admitted, was extremely ambitious. ‘We have a radical philosophy,’ he said.” Read more.
http://www.reid.senate.gov/koch-facts#.U0AZsa1dUi4
Think what this means in terms of what the GOP has been doing. They all need to be voted out of office at the local, state and federal level. To claim both parties are doing the same, belies the path of the money being put out by the Koches. And the intent of each legislative action put forward by ALEC and the GOP.
From the thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024781021
to DearAbby and Triana.
They have committed treason against the United States of the highest order. Lock them all up. 
https://www.kayhagan.com/
She's had attack ads run against her before, but in less vicious days by the Dole campaign. From the Wikipedia page:
Kay Hagan
"Godless" ad
In late October, the Dole campaign released a television ad that stated the leader of the Godless Americans PAC had held "a secret fundraiser in Kay Hagan's honor." The ad showed sound bites of group members espousing their views, then stated Kay Hagan "hid from cameras, took Godless money... what did Hagan promise in return?" It ended with a photo of Hagan and a female voice saying, "There is no God."[18][19] The ad aired across North Carolina.[18] Hagan's campaign says the ad sought to put inflammatory words in their candidate's mouth. The Dole campaign says the ad shows whom Hagan will associate with in order to raise campaign funds. On November 1, Bob Dole also defended it, asserting "it never questions her faith," and "the issue is why she was there. There's no question about her faith. I think it's [the ad's] fair game."[20]
Hagan, a member of First Presbyterian Church of Greensboro and a former Sunday school teacher,[19] condemned the ad as "fabricated and pathetic."[21] Hagan also filed a lawsuit in Wake County Superior Court accusing Dole of defamation and libel.[22][23] Following Hagan's victory, the lawsuit was dropped.[24]
The ad met exceptionally strong criticism from the public as well as many local and several national media outlets. CNN's Campbell Brown said about the ad: "[A]mid all the attack ads on the airwaves competing to out-ugly one another, we think we've found a winner."[25] The ad was described as "ridiculously outrageous,"[26] "indecent,"[27] a "gross misrepresentation,"[28] "worse than dishonest"[29] and "beyond the bounds of acceptable political disagreement,"[29] among other harsh criticism.[30] The media reported that within 48 hours of the first ad Hagan received over 3,600 contributions, including major donors as well as individual support from a range of atheists, agnostics, and people of other religious beliefs, who felt they were being attacked by Dole.[31] Another ad issued by the Dole campaign in mid-October 2008 was described by The Fayetteville Observer as "[setting] the low mark in negative political campaigning."[32]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kay_Hagan
The bottom has fallen out, the demagogues have become mainstream, they won't give up spreading vitriol now. It's all they have. Hoping the citizens of North Carolina will see through the big money that bought these ads.
She's had attack ads run against her before, but in less vicious days by the Dole campaign. From the Wikipedia page:
Kay Hagan
"Godless" ad
In late October, the Dole campaign released a television ad that stated the leader of the Godless Americans PAC had held "a secret fundraiser in Kay Hagan's honor." The ad showed sound bites of group members espousing their views, then stated Kay Hagan "hid from cameras, took Godless money... what did Hagan promise in return?" It ended with a photo of Hagan and a female voice saying, "There is no God."[18][19] The ad aired across North Carolina.[18] Hagan's campaign says the ad sought to put inflammatory words in their candidate's mouth. The Dole campaign says the ad shows whom Hagan will associate with in order to raise campaign funds. On November 1, Bob Dole also defended it, asserting "it never questions her faith," and "the issue is why she was there. There's no question about her faith. I think it's [the ad's] fair game."[20]
Hagan, a member of First Presbyterian Church of Greensboro and a former Sunday school teacher,[19] condemned the ad as "fabricated and pathetic."[21] Hagan also filed a lawsuit in Wake County Superior Court accusing Dole of defamation and libel.[22][23] Following Hagan's victory, the lawsuit was dropped.[24]
The ad met exceptionally strong criticism from the public as well as many local and several national media outlets. CNN's Campbell Brown said about the ad: "[A]mid all the attack ads on the airwaves competing to out-ugly one another, we think we've found a winner."[25] The ad was described as "ridiculously outrageous,"[26] "indecent,"[27] a "gross misrepresentation,"[28] "worse than dishonest"[29] and "beyond the bounds of acceptable political disagreement,"[29] among other harsh criticism.[30] The media reported that within 48 hours of the first ad Hagan received over 3,600 contributions, including major donors as well as individual support from a range of atheists, agnostics, and people of other religious beliefs, who felt they were being attacked by Dole.[31] Another ad issued by the Dole campaign in mid-October 2008 was described by The Fayetteville Observer as "[setting] the low mark in negative political campaigning."[32]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kay_Hagan
The bottom has fallen out, the demagogues have become mainstream, they won't give up spreading vitriol now. It's all they have. Hoping the citizens of North Carolina will see through the big money that bought these ads.
