Perhaps it's my age - and they era I came of age -

But they Republican party has been taking advantage of this fear that "folks are going to retaliate so you get yours" point of view since I was a toddler.

Until we understand the impact of race on class in America, the left will keep chasing its own tail like a circling dog.

Here's a clue:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024751006

Effectively by Reagan.

Conservatives are already there, and liberals are more likely to believe it wouldn't have an effect on them or their politics (because that's the right answer).

Bryant

the growing size and reach of government, than it does with race.

You aren't looking at it from Goldwater onwards and right wing brainwashed.

And to take race out of it is very very dangerous.

I'm probably not - Nope - I KNOW I'm not - the only 'brown' person at du that feels their/they/them VERY real and extremely vicious resentment that I even exist.

They are a powder keg just waiting to go off.

This beating in Detroit just might have done it . . . Oh they are gonna retaliate against brown folks for that. You just wait and see. Historically - it's what that certain segment of white America does.

I'm not taking race out of it, I totally understand racism is still alive and kicking. But the number of true racists is to small to make any kind of impact that isn't viewed as negative.

Racism is not hiding behind every corner and it is wrong to declare your neighbors to be racist simply because they believe the smaller less intrusive government line. And to claim that they all have been brainwashed is just a way to dismiss their concerns.

True racists are always a 'powder keg just waiting to go off,' but when it goes off nowadays, it is more of a poof than an explosion. Their marches are in the tens, not the thousands.
"White America" has rejected "that certain segment" and it is silly to fear any kind of mass retaliation occurring.

But I'm a black well educated affluent woman living in a mostly white town in the 6th wealthiest county of America - married to a white male immigrant.

We will have to agree to disagree.


They hate us my friend - that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

ETA - they really really REALLY hate black women. They've hated my guts since 1976 when Reagan turned their 'Mammy' into a welfare queen.

"But the number of true racists is to small to make any kind of impact..."

You of course will supply us with objective and peer-reviewed numbers/analysis to validate your allegation, yes?

so it seems an odd response if they dislike the governmental direction and ideals to embrace it and keep voting for it.

IMO

The situation is sad, I read an article on AlterNet about middle aged white men feeling left out or vengeful because their birthright entitlements were no longer available. Their family traditions have been destroyed by the government and brown people.

namely--profit at the expense of working Americans.

Therefore the "conservatives" they interviewed in the West are often landowners, farmers, foremen, contractors, and others who stand to gain by the exploitation of cheap labor.

"How Whites are ... " or "Whites believe ..." or "Whites don't like ..." etc. etc.

It doesn't work when you say it about other people, why should it work with whites ? Just add qualifiers like "a majority of white Americans ..." and it may be factually correct. But it's not ALL whites -- try posting a headline about ALL blacks or ALL women or ALL gays or ALL ambidextrous bookbinders and see what a reaction you get.