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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGovt backs down enforcing the law because of right wing nuts
The govt should not simply back off this crackpot and his lunatic posse. Slap a lien on his property for back dues owed the govt. If the govt doesn't want worse than this rebellion, they need to do something about this idiot.
Dwayne Hicks
(637 posts)Now they have empowered these terrorists to threaten violence at every chance when they don't get their way. The government should have deployed the army and gave an ultimatum to leave or be shot.
meadowlark5
(2,795 posts)They need to do something about him. Leaving him to do what he wants because his militia will kill people is irresponsible. The govt is asking for bigger trouble if they don't.
Dwayne Hicks
(637 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)JJChambers
(1,115 posts)There's a lot to lose by escalating and very little to again. A wise move by POTUS. Yes, to the general public it gives the appearance that he is weak and that the militants are strong and were justified, but that's a small price to pay to avoid bloodshed.
Dwayne Hicks
(637 posts)By doing this he has encouraged bloodshed by the terrorists. These militia types need to be put down.
IronGate
(2,186 posts)Because those worked out so well.
oneofthe99
(712 posts)Your post is disturbing
Dwayne Hicks
(637 posts)You risk a lot more bloodshed by doing nothing.
IronGate
(2,186 posts)oneofthe99
(712 posts)There is always a peaceful way to do things if we let cooler heads deal with this.
President Obama was absolutely right to make this call.
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)meadowlark5
(2,795 posts)Take his tax returns? Put a lien on his property?
I understand protecting Fed agents and general public, but doing nothing seems like asking for some worse standoff.
JJChambers
(1,115 posts)Seize his bank accounts, arrest him on contempt of court (but wait until this cools off and he comes to town for groceries), and keep him in jail until he complies. There is no reason to resort to a violent confrontation here.
LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)Hit him quietly in the wallet, where it hurts.
meadowlark5
(2,795 posts)These nuts and their kind in the land would LOVE to see a bunch of patriotic militants gun down federal officers.
That wasn't what I was implying or wanted. I want them to do something to him. He is not above the law no matter how many armed buddies he has. What you posted is what I was hoping would happen. I hope the govt follows through on this. Peacefully is always the way I prefer.
Logical
(22,457 posts)JJChambers
(1,115 posts)Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)Exactly. They are trying to make the president look like the bad guy using a little bit of fish bait. He won't fall for it. The president won't move until they give him the whole fish.
oneofthe99
(712 posts)This had the potential to get many people killed on both sides
for something that is not critical .
It can be handled another way when things cool down.
spanone
(135,857 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)meadowlark5
(2,795 posts)What was the deal?
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)IronGate
(2,186 posts)is very disturbing to me.
I don't understand the blood lust.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Them financially.
IronGate
(2,186 posts)It's the best solution.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)It's not wanting a society where people can ignore the laws just because they threaten violence.
Moses2SandyKoufax
(1,290 posts)IronGate
(2,186 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)On the one hand, you want to avoid violence if possible. On the other, you can't just let people ignore the laws because they have guns.
But either way "bloodlust" has nothing to do with it.
IronGate
(2,186 posts)but there are some here who want the BLM Rangers to in guns blazing and teach these assholes a lesson. That should be the absolute last resort and only to protect themselves.
I think this deal is just the thing to de-escalate the situation for now.
SwankyXomb
(2,030 posts)Wipes out the domestic terrorists with minimal risk.
Dwayne Hicks
(637 posts)All these militia terrorists should have their rights stripped from them, then thrown in prison with the rest of the terrorists.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)whenever they lose at the ballot box.
Dwayne Hicks
(637 posts)Just give them what they want so we can avoid and sort of problem. I am ashamed of the BLM for caving into terrorist demands.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)People cannot see the big picture for the immediate scenery.
It's like every CEO and board of directors who cannot see past the next quarterly report.
Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)They are obviously trying to start something so they can scream "Look what the big, bad government did! Whaaaah....Whaaaah...!" Let them sit there in violation of the law while everyone else is playing by the rules. Let them feel emboldened so much by this little victory that they get all cocky and stupid and start demanding so much that the public has finally had enough of them and gives the government their consent to crack down on these idiots. When you finally move against these numb nuts you want a solid case without controversy. You want a public display and record of their continuing refusal to play nice. You want a history of troublemaking and mayhem everyone is tired of. You want to give them enough rope to hang themselves. Otherwise, you'll never get rid of them. A cattle dispute is not enough rope.
MFM008
(19,818 posts)sue sue sue. These inbreds cant get away with this. He is a squatter, a mooch and freeloader. probably like his many supporters .
tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)But after reading this thread i will change it to send in the lawyers, put this dude in the poor house.
tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)The BLM has been after this guy for over 20 years, maybe it will take forceful action. ??
BlindTiresias
(1,563 posts)The right wing will likely consider it a victory and after they move on this guy's assets will likely be frozen and he wll be in a world of hurt.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)The whole thing is over cattle.
mercuryblues
(14,537 posts)they have saved the government a lot of man hours investigating militias.
You can be that license plates and pictures and other info were taken of those who showed up to support him.