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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI need to dispel the myth that "the Democratic party is split" once more loudly and clearly
There is no split. the base is behind our sagacious leader 99.9% of the time because they know he is smarter than all of us combined, the liars that claim any of the base is unhappy are not even part of the base!What firebaggers like Sanders and the pathetic paleo-Democratic, Libertarian far left, Anarchists for Putin that have taken over this site need to understand is they are fake "Democrats" suffering from a clinically undetectable mental disorder called ODS, and as such, are not real Democrats, and certainly not his base
they are really mostly (nearly all in fact) libertarians registered as Democrats that only voted for him to advance a master plan the goal of which is to "bring him down" because ODS.
Their end game after bringing down the best President of all time (past and future) is to finally herald a new administration with a Rand as president (whom they love almost as much as Putin).
They are clever and embedded (many of them operating sleeper cells of so called "Democrats" for 30 or even up to 60 years.
Real Democrats like Obama, Baucus, anyone named Nelson, Rahm Emanuel, Lieberman (before the firebaggers forced him to run as a party of one) and Ed Rendell are under constant attack by racist libertarians that claim to vote for Democrats as a cover and who must be destroyed.
Their ODS inspired plot also includes discrediting great thinkers - true progressive thinkers like Milton Friedman and collaborative progressive thinkers like Will Marshall, Al From and others who were so pragmatic that they got an incredibly smart billionaire set of brothers named Koch to help fund their DLC. If billionaires as brilliant as they backed their progressive plans, all I can say is the DLC were top notch geniuses that had been working since the eighties to bring us a Democratic utopia of REAL liberal policies and we MUST carry their torch onward into the future.
The Paulite conspiracy runs so deep here at Neo-DU, that the only way to be sure of backing true Democrats is to check to make sure they are connected to the third way think tank, the progressive policy institute, are former DLC alumni, or in the case of posters on this site - Boggers in good standing with the group.
We true Democrats must have Obama's back no matter what he says or does!
We are NOT frustrated by revelations about the Obama administration's secret government spying programs or the president's support for drone strikes against terrorist women, children and boys of a certain age (the age proves there terrorism in this case), we know full well that spying on everyone and collecting everything is not the same as targeting just criminals so it isn't really spying and it is clear to the sensible that drones do not splatter humans but rather only bugs.
We the base support visionaries such as Summers and that hero Brennan just as we hope to do more for banks and for free trade. We promote kill lists and indefinite detention without rights because all these things are the true Democratic agenda and are all attempts to further the interests of the common working man and his right to be allowed to lose rights and job security in order to enable them to patriotically provide the US with the ability to be competitive on the global labor market and to also allow for a nation secure from the many domestic threats of the disgruntled far left and libertarian terrorists before they become organized. We want these things for our lessers because we love them and have their backs and know what's best for them.
If what is best for them is to reduce their earned benefits like SS and Medicare when they are whinny old farts that can't earn money for their betters anymore, we will support such cuts BECAUSE we love them and want to help them find ways not to be the useless takers that they are. The same for the poor that claim that cutting programs like food stamps will hurt them, in the reality based world if they are not hungry and useful to their betters then we have failed to help them find the bliss in working three min wage jobs to help an economy that is wisely designed to funnel cash to the only people with the ability to trickle success down upon them. I mean, how can we help them if we don't help the rich that may decide to help them at some point eventually?
In conclusion, 99.9% of true Democrats support President Obama on everything all the time and those that do not provide such complete and trusting blind support are not really Democrats or "the base", but rather ODS racist libertarians with an agenda going back to the days of that 'bagger FDR and his hatred of those financially secure enough to shower their wealth down upon us with their unfettered ingenuity. We have already paid a great price for the suffocating regulations that held back the prosperity of the nation until Rubin and Summers under the very liberal Bill Clinton removed the regulatory handcuffs that impedede the creation of true and lasting prosperity that only unfettered capitalism can provide.
Obama's true base loves him, support his every decision 100% and always will, do not believe the lies of the firebagging Putin lovers that not only never really loved him but actually hate him and always will because ODS and their worship of Randian libertarianism.
We need to stick together and go on the attack against what so many falsely see as his Democratic base, our numbers are small, but we are right, have the best funding, and will win in the end bringing to fruition our Progressive Koch inspired Democratic agenda that was so well articulated by our founding DLC heroes. We pragmatic few, ARE THE ONLY true base!
Lets rally! Lets Win!
Are you with me!!!!?
BlindTiresias
(1,563 posts)JI7
(89,251 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)JI7
(89,251 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)So I guess your post was a nod of agreement?
muriel_volestrangler
(101,321 posts)Don't post flamebait and then try to stop rebuttals.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)Really, explain that reach to me, it seems a bit far of a reach.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,321 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)When the poster explained it showed agreement in my complete unity of the party theory, it was clarified.
Asking for clarification shows interest in the rebuttal (agreement actually rather than rebuttal), the opposite of trying to stop a rebuttal
muriel_volestrangler
(101,321 posts)You pretend that any rebuttal is 'agreement', but as soon as someone turns it into a specific attack on one DUer, you not only agree, but call out another one too.
It's cowardly, and two-faced, of you. If you want to have an argument with ProSense or VanillaRhapsody, do it to their face, and don't retreat behind weasely 'but I agree with you' BS.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)Where do you think I get my ideas from? hint: I borrowed the words and thoughts of those that throw hissy fits when people imitate what they post daily.
Nothing original about my post sadly, just embarrassing for those that say the very same things (but not all at once)
muriel_volestrangler
(101,321 posts)Your intent for this thread seems to be to trash specific DUers, without responding properly to anyone who puts a different viewpoint. You are making DU suck today.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)It is more of an acknowledgement of ability.
People ARE throwing hissy fits in this thread and the ones throwing them are the ones that started the "firebagger" "paulite" "racist" ect. attacks on everyone left of Liebermann, your issue is really with them, as I said there is nothing original in my op. Those that feel insulted by it are basically just being quoted. I guess the mirrors image of some cause them to feel insulted by themselves... interesting that...
JI7
(89,251 posts)pres has no principles.
but attention whoring and getting recs is what it's all about for some.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)I said nothing of the sort
JI7
(89,251 posts)support that person, party (majority of which does support that person) and internet site ?
i would have left already. but maybe i would love the attention and posting on the site too much to actually do that.
some principles those are...............
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)The claims of drones are more than claims, the drones exist, same for the NSA.
They are quite non partisan facts in our country, promoted by both parties, pretending they don't exist makes it hard to take YOU seriously. You very well do support not only those policies but at least one party when that orders such strikes and spying.
How can you support them and claim you would never support them, all in your own self contradicting words repeatedly.
You are very confusing with the support and non support thing voiced simultaneously, is that what cognitive dissonance sounds like?
JI7
(89,251 posts)Attention seeking whores over principles
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)You enjoy insulting people don't you? that last post showed me you can put motives in my mind that you pull completely out of your butt while simultaneously enjoying an ad hominem attack on me.
Most impressive I must say, can you read my soul, my mind and also project a voice into my mouth while drinking a glass of water? that would be even more impressive.
on edit, I am sorry I was born white, how did you even know and why does it bother you so?
on second edit I noticed you took the white hate part out, thanks, it kinda sucked reading that
JI7
(89,251 posts)But auto correct to whites
Earth_First
(14,910 posts)Exposethefrauds
(531 posts)Pholus
(4,062 posts)Says everything I need to know about this poster and its concept of "unity."
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)Why do you hate true Democrats with the courage to stand up for the wealthy?
You must stand straight and tall with a name like phallus.
Pholus
(4,062 posts)It becomes obvious you actually don't know who stands for what.
And real grown up on the last line. Do your parents know you're online this early?
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)You must be one of the poors that are jealous of our great coalition of the wealthy because of our progressive values in supporting the banks and real Democrats like Lieberman and Obama. tell me, which Paul do you support with your ODS?
Forgive me if I'm mistaken because I don't speak firebagger, but referring to a human as an object like an "it" is considered an insult isn't it? We even call the help by human names in the mansion, but of course only the wealthiest among us have manners. kettle kettle - black black
Pholus
(4,062 posts)But go on with your pre-programmed assumption of what I believe. I find it amusing.
But then again, I should have realized that with this thread and it's namecalling in the second line, followed up with your potty humor that you were simply trolling.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)But thank you for asking!
Seeking Serenity
(2,840 posts)Can't tell if satire or a true, if misguided, expression of feeling. Anyone remember graham4anything?
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)I could read his installations all day long!
a2liberal
(1,524 posts)It's scary because the first 3 paragraphs, until it became more obvious later in, and even some of the later parts taken alone, sounded like the sort of thing that certain elements on this site would actually post in seriousness. And they consider themselves the true Democrats...
freedom fighter jh
(1,782 posts)Good satire is striking because it is so close to reality.
Love this thread but given some of the responses, I think maybe a "satire" label would help.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)because a joke post about how X must be supported literally no matter what will be followed up by someone who not only literally DOES believe X must be supported even if they start a dozen secret wars and kill thousands of innocents, but then adds that they conclusively defeated Wall Street and Big Insurance, and finally compares them to FDR, LBJ, Edward Teller, Christ, AND Columbus (adding that people thought the world flat in 1491)
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)His sock puppet is welcome in some circles...
JI7
(89,251 posts)but it's not impressive at all as it just comes off as attention seeking and looking for approval and recs.
i mean, if i felt the president was some horrible spying, murdering type i would not support him or the party . i would not be on a site that supports that party and president. well, unless i was trolling .
i find it to be one of the least examples of political principles as it is more about attention whoring than anything else.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)JI7
(89,251 posts)horrible president i would not support that party.
i mean, what person with principles would do so ?
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)Like me you know that bug splats aren't people and the NSA doesn't spy, so You kind of lost me with your attacks, we should be best buds because we both support these supportable things.
JI7
(89,251 posts)stay in a party that does those things ?
i mean, i know people love getting attention whether it's reality tv shows , facebook, twitter, recs on a political forum. but is that love so great as to continue supporting a site that supports someone over standing on principles ?
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)Just as I do.
You are a very confusing individual with your self contradictory statements.
JI7
(89,251 posts)that supports that person and party .
but sadly it is about attention whoring these days for many.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)Response to Dragonfli (Original post)
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Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)My sisters name is Vannila R. (she is even smarter than me.
Exposethefrauds
(531 posts)Response to Dragonfli (Reply #17)
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hobbit709
(41,694 posts)On Sun Apr 13, 2014, 06:48 AM an alert was sent on the following post:
No, I am her cousin nosense, the smart one
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4815557
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This is rude - it's taken it to personal attacks on named DUers (ProSense and VanillaRhapsody). The OP is a parody, but the made-up positions in it should not be attributed to actual DUers. Please hide.
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Apr 13, 2014, 07:03 AM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.
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Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)daybranch
(1,309 posts)I disagree with everything you just said, just as you intended. lets run our candidates on a populist message in 2014 and win.
JI7
(89,251 posts)how about alison grimes ?
should we support them ?
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
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SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Last edited Sun Apr 13, 2014, 08:26 PM - Edit history (1)
there's no accounting for taste.
"typical single line snark"
Lemme guess. Long-time lurker?
Edit: Heheh. Buh-bye
Sid
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)That drawing of an atom is based on a concept that's been out of date for a century or so, so I'm not sure it counts as science. Perhaps change the label from "science" to "really old and discredited ideas"?
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)I guess that non-quantum models of the atom are easier to understand?
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Much like this is a symbol for "male", without actually being a true, physical representation of a male person.
Kind of a pathetic attempt at a gotcha, isn't it Manny? Being deliberately obtuse about a symbol in an avatar?
I mean, we can talk about quantum representations and elementary particles if you want, but my physics degree was a lot of years ago, and I don't think I'd be able to speak too intelligently on the topic without pulling out a bunch of old textbooks.
Sid
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)and I have a good feeling about a geocentric model to explain the movements of the angels up in heaven
conservatives understand that the old models are the best models, why that quantum nonsense is just satan testing us from his hell mouth in a university in California!
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Because they rely on quantum theory.
Cool. I guess we Liberals can take them all, then.
Hey Dragonfli - seems like you've been away for a while? Or have I just been missing your stuff?
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)Still recovering from some pretty harsh medical treatments that took a toll.
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MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Does each individual in this town need an enema? Or are you suggesting that somehow the city be given a single (presumably enormous) enema? If the latter, how would that physically work?
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)I'll leave it to you to figure out what I believe to be the "shit" that needs to be flushed.
Sid
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)enemies of the state? Or sending the naughtythinkers to re-education camps?
Or are we talking a poo problem requiring updated civil works?
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)(according to unnamed sources in the secret clown car) is to network all the water towers in the town via connecting pipelines, install thousands of hookah stems in each that in turn will drive hydraulic tubes with the enema apparatus attached at the ends.
Quite ingenious really, it will be funded by billionaire and fellow enema fetishist Peter J Peterson. A design and drafting firm has been commissioned to finalize the shop blueprints for production and refitting.
As soon as all the town officials are properly purchased with "free speech" the construction will begin in earnest and the mother of all enemas will finally begin!
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)I look forward to that day, thanks for the explanation.
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randome
(34,845 posts)...of Demoralizer-In-Chief.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Aspire to inspire.[/center][/font][hr]
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)given the use of Rovian techniques: saying the opposite of what they mean, turning things upside down, attacking stengths, projecting weaknesses, rewriting history.
At least Manny's recent posts have been more straightforward by saying what he's for, rather than using these passive aggressive techniques.
randome
(34,845 posts)But they lack the intellect to pull it off.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]The wind doesn't care when you shout at it.
Commit to something that makes a difference.[/center][/font][hr]
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)but this seems to be the opposite.
randome
(34,845 posts)Strange how it's foot-stompingly wrong to point out FDR's missteps but it's okay to denigrate the current President.
Bit of a disconnect there.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]A 90% chance of rain means the same as a 10% chance:
It might rain and it might not.[/center][/font][hr]
otherone
(973 posts)OP
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)democrank
(11,096 posts)were against certain policies (and persons) under George W. Bush but now support those same policies and persons since learning about the importance of first-strike compromise and reaching out to friends across the aisle.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)Thanks for the excellent satire.
I have read that conservatives don't get satire, if true a few replies are showing their true colors.
djean111
(14,255 posts)And much of the satire has been posted here very seriously.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Seems to have offended the usual suspects.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)so the OP is not satire, it's just exaggeration and contrived guilt by association.
Plus, using the Kochs as a foil to attack the Democrats is pretty Rovian IMO: use the Repubs' main weakness to attack their main adversaries.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)http://www.correntewire.com/why_its_feature_not_bug_koch_family_funds_dlc
One member of the DLC's executive council is none other than Koch Industries, the privately held, Kansas-based oil company whose namesake family members are avatars of the far right, having helped to found archconservative institutions like the Cato Institute and Citizens for a Sound Economy. Not only that, but two Koch executives, Richard Fink and Robert P. Hall III, are listed as members of the board of trustees and the event committee, respectively--meaning that they gave significantly more than $25,000.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)and The Third way does now, nothing new really.
Attack entitlements
promote free trade
help the wealthy,
things have changed very little
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)Is the DLC the only thing they support?
Or did they spend $400 million in the last election supporting Mitt Romney?
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)Deregulates banking and environmental rules, promotes free trade for cheap labor and even less environmental control and worker safety.
The same as they did then and the 3rd way still agrees as did the DLC with all of the above (and more)
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)I like this OP, but could you confirm a thought?
Were you inspired by third way manny?
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)Sure, he knows how to speak truth to the moonbat left, but has yet to embrace true prosperity consciousness.
He has not inspired me, so much as impress me as a kid on his way to figuring out what we in the private island club know from birth.
Perhaps someday his ancestors will accrue the wealth necessary for personal enlightenment.
I will continue watching the young lad because he shows promise, but he stilll has much to earn$$$$ or learn as the commoners say.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)the student may surpass the master
MrModerate
(9,753 posts)Or pithy or pointed or punchy or even worth the time of day.
You know that career in the wit trade you were thinking about? Perhaps you want to reconsider.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)This is evidenced by the fact that the replies are off topic because there is no topic. I guess if you have the time to waste writing a lengthy incoherent piece, then good for you. Kind of reminds me of Seinfeld, it's an OP about "nothing".
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)You'd see how totally out of balance your view of politics and elected politicians is.
Thank goodness zealotry is more an attribute of the Right.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)If the OP is worried about the Kochs, they should write an OP about them and all of their activities IMO.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)No Bobby Keys on sax; Mick Taylor's letting Keith play both guitar parts and Jagger is singing like a white guy.
Number23
(24,544 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Timez Squarez
(262 posts)I don't appreciate the tone.
Sanders is a fine, fine man, and would vote for him in a heartbeat if he ran for President, and would win too.
We need a President for the people, and Bernie Sanders defines that.
newfie11
(8,159 posts)Thanks for posting
IronLionZion
(45,450 posts)while still supporting our president and Dem leaders as generally good people who can be trusted to make the best decisions based on the information they have and the conditions they are facing most of the time. Its not all or nothing. You'll grow old and die waiting for a politician who does what you want 100% of the time.
Having more Democrats in office is a good thing. More Dems in congress would help pass a lot more useful legislation like equal pay or jobs/infrstructure plans and budgets that support the causes that matter. More dem appointees on the supreme court would have given us very different decisions on the campaign finance cases, which would mean less corporate money influencing either party.
Less dems (including less dlc types) is worse for us, not better.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)It is not enough to obey her. We must love her.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)to get an erotic blood lust going, And her relationship with the hottest, richest bankers makes me want to join in in an orgy of wanton abandon of slow seduction atop a bed made of trillions in hard earned scam money and taxpayer blood!
I imagine a Goddess stroking my throbbing member of the .01% with soft kisses and gentle whispers of austerity.
Is there anyone that does not love her?
Big sister sees all, knows best and will surely raise the chocolate ration for those of us that are more equal than others!
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]If you're not committed to anything, you're just taking up space.
Gregory Peck, Mirage (1965)[/center][/font][hr]
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)That's just how the fringe-left rolls.
Sid
bowens43
(16,064 posts)GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)MuseRider
(34,111 posts)Not much left to say. Great satire.
I would love to see this posted again with the :satire: tag. Somehow I don't think the responses would change a lot.
Well done
gulliver
(13,186 posts)The OP is written by a pragmatist satirist who is mocking the fringe left for thinking that humorless sarcasm is satire. And they are totally falling for it.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)I think you just exposed yourself as a shit stirrer. You KNOW that's not true. WE know that's not true. The fucking WORLD knows that's not true.
1000words
(7,051 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Maybe even in 1984 too.