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IDemo

(16,926 posts)
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 12:26 PM Apr 2014

Does anything remain of value in debating prideful idiots?

Like the dandelions in my neighbor's lawn, outrageous quotes by neocons pop up undeterred by Weed-B-Gone or common sense. At least with the former, you can make wine if you choose. Only whine remains of the latest from the mouths of Tea People and their designated "leaders".

It has been shown that facts will do little if anything to alter one's opinion on matters which have been defined by their ideology and world view. No amount of CO2 figures, geologic evidence, history or economic data will change views held close to the heart and reinforced by talk radio blather. In fact, studies have indicated that if anything, such views tend to become hardened against the evidence.

So what is to be gained by posting the daily screeds of the Bryan Fischers, Glenn Becks, Sarah Palins, or the latest Tea hero wannabe from the Oklahoma Statehouse or the pulpit of the Church of Drooling Morons? You may want to argue that we must know what is being said by The Other Side in order to compile the arguments that will drag their followers back to the Light Side. This is, quite simply, beyond wishful thinking. There exists no evidence that those enamored of ignorant philosophies and ideologies have in any significant numbers decided to abandon flaky thinking in favor of science and reason.

Yes, there is often humor to be found in the latest verbal belch from the radical Wrong. But the childish nonsense has simply become far too predictable. The Onion has even itself spoofed the idea that it remains relevant in the face of the overwhelming outpour of unbelievable knee-slappers from the Right, not just from Beck et al but from Huckabee and other elected officials.

Maybe it's time to take a break and let the screeching toddlers just wallow in their dirty diapers (hi, Dave!) in the next room without feeling the need to rush in with every outburst.

Just my two cents.

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Does anything remain of value in debating prideful idiots? (Original Post) IDemo Apr 2014 OP
They certainly managed to kill off the satire business Warpy Apr 2014 #1
You may be onto something there. Arkansas Granny Apr 2014 #2
yes because qazplm Apr 2014 #3
Disagreed IDemo Apr 2014 #4
How about DiverDave Apr 2014 #5

Warpy

(111,271 posts)
1. They certainly managed to kill off the satire business
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 12:34 PM
Apr 2014

because no matter how over the top a satirist goes, the idiots usually manage to top it the next day.

And no, I don't bother with trying to educate the ineducable. The most they get from me is a "You bought that?" and a chuckle as I walk away, twirling my left inex finger next to my temple.

Arkansas Granny

(31,518 posts)
2. You may be onto something there.
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 12:35 PM
Apr 2014

In my experience, the more evidence you bring into a discussion, the more firmly they plant their heels and refuse to acknowledge proven fact. They regard ignorance as a virtue.

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
4. Disagreed
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 01:01 PM
Apr 2014

The ones who cling to every utterance of Bryan Fischer and Matt Drudge are in a class by themselves. They didn't just wander in from the sensible center, open to fresh new invigorating ideas such as FEMA camps and an Anti-Christ Obama.

DiverDave

(4,886 posts)
5. How about
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 01:47 PM
Apr 2014

They are laughing at you all the way to the bank.
I know it doesn't change minds, but maybe it will start a spark.

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