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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat if Bundy Ranch Were Owned by a Bunch of Black People?
I love how conservatives believe grazing cattle on public land is a private property issue.First, this entire incident speaks to the continued power of right-wing mythology. For many of the protesters, this isnt about a rogue rancher as much as its a stand against tyranny personified in Barack Obama and his administration.
Second, it wont happen, but right-wing media ought to be condemned for their role in fanning the flames of this standoff. After years of decrying Obamas lawlessness and hyperventilating over faux scandals, its galling to watch conservatives applaud actual lawbreaking and violent threats to federal officials.
Finally, I cant help but wonder how conservatives would react if these were black farmersor black anyonedefending their land against federal officials. Would Fox News applaud black militiamen aiming their guns at white bureaucrats?
Somehow, given the degree to which right-wing media traffic in racial paranoia, I think wed be looking at a different situation if the Bundy Ranch belonged to a bunch of black people. And as someone who closely follows the regular incidents of lethal police violence against blacks and Latinos, I also wonder whether law enforcement would be as tepid against a group of armed African-Americans. Judging from past events, Im not so sure.
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http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2014/04/15/bundy_ranch_and_bureau_of_land_management_standoff_what_right_wingers_anger.html?wpisrc=burger_bar
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What if Bundy Ranch Were Owned by a Bunch of Black People? (Original Post)
kpete
Apr 2014
OP
Same militia assholes would have shown up, but their guns would have been pointed...
joeybee12
Apr 2014
#1
It seems likely the response would be very different, but few conservatives would admit that. nt
el_bryanto
Apr 2014
#3
In 1982, a controversial church in Miracle Valley, Arizona, was the scene of a battle
Ptah
Apr 2014
#5
If only they'd put the women up front, those two dead churchmen might have been spared
pinboy3niner
Apr 2014
#8
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)1. Same militia assholes would have shown up, but their guns would have been pointed...
in the opposite direction.
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)2. I Think The Ghost Of Fred Hampton, Ma'am, Could Answer That....
former9thward
(32,017 posts)6. He could if Richard Daley was in charge of the BLM.
He isn't.
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)7. Whatever, Sir
If you seriously think armed blacks of nationalist persuasion, or for that matter, white leftists under arms, would be treated with the kid gloves these people have been, then there is no more really to be said to you than there would be to a small ottoman....
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)3. It seems likely the response would be very different, but few conservatives would admit that. nt
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)4. What's really funny is that they support the plan to sacrifice the women
How would conservatives react if the news said Occupy, fearing violence, planned to put the women up front so their deaths on camera would evoke sympathy?
Ptah
(33,030 posts)5. In 1982, a controversial church in Miracle Valley, Arizona, was the scene of a battle
In 1982, a controversial church in Miracle Valley, Arizona, was the scene
of a battle that ended with two church members dead, two lawmen with
gunshot wounds and several more with less serious injuries.
2 die in Miracle Valley battle
Long expected, the shooting finally comes
By Paul Brinkley-Rogers
© 1982 The Arizona Daily Star
MIRACLE VALLEY "You've got to kill us if you want us, man," Robert Luckett yelled
at the sheriff's deputy backing away from a woman with a large rock in her hand.
Then Luckett screamed, "Wait right here till I come back with a gun, and then
we'll see who's the dead man."
But by the time Luckett ran back, with nunchakus an Oriental weapon instead
of a gun, Deputy Ray Thatcher was gone. He was lost in a sea of church members
attacking him and 35 other deputies on Axehead Drive with everything from teeth to gun butts.
http://azstarnet.com/news/blogs/morgue-tales/tales-from-the-morgue-battle-at-miracle-valley/article_242b3418-9582-11e1-a7b4-0019bb2963f4.html
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)8. If only they'd put the women up front, those two dead churchmen might have been spared