just saying, unless this has been changed, it is not allowed.

Rather than a source of facts and actual news. In this context I would assume it would not be wrong to link to it.

They are not stupid. It is an examination of the journalistic similarity of Russian propaganda from state-run media and the drivel from American psychos like Alex Jones, not presenting Infowars rantings as something for people to read for the credible information they include..

Second, the point of the post, and the similar post yesterday, is that GD is deluged with vomit from Russia Today while Infowars is obviously too crazy to post. It is noting an irony.

to ask for RT to be banned from general discussion, it might prove more effective.

Personally, I like seeing news sources from foreign outlets. And if RT was banned, I would like to see Fox news banned as a source as well. But that is me.

By noting the irony, I didn't mean the irony of RT not being banned. I mean the irony of everyone knowing how comical Infowars is, while RT is presented as the real deal.

I am not much about banning stuff. I have no opinion on Inforwars being banned in GD, or much of anything being banned in GD. That is up to the site owners.

I don't seek RT banned in GD, though the fact it is banned in Breaking News is essential, since that forum is supposed to be limited to legit journalism. GD is not limited to legit journalism. (Where would GD be without the Daily Mail?)

I do, however, think that RT should widely be seen for what it is... a propaganda organ of the Russian government.

not everything has to be seen in black and white. There are shades of gray to just about everything.

For instance, I have seen progressive tinted stories on RT, that you would never see in the mainstream news here in the corporate controlled USA...

The whole point of RT is to co-opt he American left, and that cannot be done without some worthwhile appeal to the American left.

And know they are cashing in their chips. Their investment is returning dividends in the form of some on the American left actually not getting that they have been played.

American government funded international media is the same. It's not all worthless. It is fine a lot of the time... even objective a lot of the time... just not on any topic of vital national interest to the USA.

If there was NO reason to watch, it would fail at its job.

Hell, Tokyo Rose played good music. (For real. By all accounts the Japanese disinformation radio was an excellent music channel. But everyone knew the periodic "war news" was bullshit, and why.)

Anything RT says about Ukraine or Syria is being said only because it promotes the Russian government's interests. If it did not, it would not be said.

Then people say, but this datum is true, and that datum is true. Well, yeah... just like Colin Powell at the UN. Many things he said were true. Propaganda is an editor's medium. It is largely about viewpoint through selection of data.

As we noted on Friday, when we also published the report's disturbing conclusions [PDF], the 6,600-page study, based on first-hand CIA documentation, reveals massive illegalities and war crimes by everyone from CIA contractors to agents to higher level officials at that agency and others.

The report is said to detail wide-spread crimes that are not only in violation of U.S. law, but also international laws which our nation has an obligation to enforce, thanks to treaties we have long been a party to. And, if we don't enforce those laws and hold the criminals accountable for lawlessness such as torture, all the rest of the nations signed on to such treaties along with us, such as the UN Convention against Torture, have a legal obligation to do so.

The prohibition against torture under that treaty is absolute for all nations. "No exceptional circumstances whatsoever, whether a state of war or a threat of war, internal political instability or any other public emergency, may be invoked as a justification of torture," according to Article 2 of the treaty.

All of that comes on the heels of revelations that the CIA itself had used the computers of the U.S. Senate Intelligence Committee in an attempt to sabotage the committee's report.

Yet, with a report that important and a story that big, not a single U.S. network "news" show on Sunday found the time to even mention the report. Not NBC's Meet the Press with David Gregory, not ABC's This Week with George Stephanopoulos, not CBS' Face the Nation with Bob Schieffer, not Fox "News" Sunday with Chris Wallace.

There are some things that I firmly believe the private sector should never control, and that should always be in the complete control of the public government. For example, police departments and fire departments. I might argue health care as well, but we've got a ways go to on convincing that still.


That being said, there are a couple of things that government should never control, and should always remain in private hands. One being religion, and the other being the media.

Because when you think government controlled media, what you get is RT.

Kidding, of course, but can you imagine what the useful idiots would say about someone posting Radio Marti content and blathering about how they have found it to be one of the most credible news sources?

We'd better ask RT: